Friday, 2015-06-05

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SaberAltriaAnyone familiar with mer cutes?00:28
SaberAltriavar os = require("os");00:29
SaberAltriaos.system("systemctl", ["--user", "restart", "lipstick.service"])00:29
SaberAltriawhat does the require("os") mean?00:30
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SaberAltriaHello02:20
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ThaodanIm not familar with js but requires always loades sometime, I used it elisp, here it loads module os, pusts it into os, then you can acces all of by call it with os.03:05
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SaberAltriaThaodan: How about other modules?03:34
SaberAltriaI try to do this03:34
SaberAltriavar os = require("os");03:34
SaberAltriaos.system("patch", ["-p0", "<", "/var/lib/icons/numix/icon.patch"]);03:35
SaberAltriano error message but also no effect03:35
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tortoisedocgrumblegrumble me wants jolla tablet07:38
daitheflutortoisedoc: I bet $5 on "Not before september"07:39
tortoisedocdaitheflu: thats ok, but I need it for development07:40
SfietKonstantinWend of june :)07:40
tortoisedocthats why im reduced to whining :D07:41
daithefluSfietKonstantinW: yep for the lucky developers that will be part of the (I-don't-remember-how-they-called-it) dev-program07:43
specialtortoisedoc: development of what?07:44
tortoisedocspecial : app upgrades, new apps, test new ideas, you name it07:45
tortoisedocfor new ideas / apps I could wait for the tablet to come normally07:46
tortoisedocbut for app upgrades / adaptations it is necessary to have it before the tablet hits the market(in order tohave the app ready)=07:46
tortoisedocas in it would be necessary to have something to develope and test against07:47
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tathhutablet sdk? doesn't beat real device but07:47
tortoisedoctathhu : yes, that would be a start07:48
tathhuoh but isn't it out same time as tablet..07:49
tathhubetter than nothing :07:49
tortoisedocdefies the purpouse then :P07:52
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tortoisedocand forces many developers not to be ready at day 107:52
tathhuI might also be wrong :D Don't care too much as a) I'm not dev b) not gonna have the tablet :D07:54
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zGrrmoin ;)08:23
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Tofemoi moi08:31
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Thaodanis it possible to set build root in an spec file?12:26
Thaodanto say here takethis as package tree and add it to the pkg?12:27
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coderusjust use mkdir and cp in install section12:38
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nh1402_mobilewas wondering if sailfish supports qtwebengine15:52
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nh1402_mobileand/or qt 5.516:03
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nh1402_mobilealright since 5.5 isn't out yet will sailfish support it upon release?16:15
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Blizzzdoubtful. but maybe 2.0 will be on a more recent qt version?16:19
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nh1402_mobilewhat version is sailfish on now then16:28
nh1402_mobilei thought it was 5.416:29
tathhuAFAIK "5.2-ish"16:29
tathhuas coderus said parts of 5.1 .2 & .3 (IIRC)16:30
nh1402_mobilereally oh wow that is pretty old. The reason I was asking was in relation to android app support16:31
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nh1402_mobilelooks like I'll have to modify android files for input to work with sailfish.16:47
nh1402_mobileinstead of hoping for sailfish to support qt5.516:47
nh1402_mobilewhich leads me to my next question. how would one get the axis value for a touch input on sailfish?16:48
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r0kk3rzqt5.5 support is going to be a while down the track i think16:57
TaaemSince its currently a beta it will take a long time 'til it hits sailfish16:57
r0kk3rzwell, 5.4 is going to take a while16:58
nh1402_mobileupdated plan for QT says 23rd June 2015 for 5.516:58
nh1402_mobilecouldnt they just skip 5.4 and jump straight to 5.5 shortly after release16:59
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r0kk3rznot 'shortly after release' no17:01
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TaaemThe question would be what they get from jumping to a newer version17:02
r0kk3rznh1402_mobile: looks like mousearea is what you want anyway, assuming you're using qml17:02
nh1402_mobileI'll have to rely on my C++ skills to get android app support working then.17:03
ThaodanI head on golem how firefox will handle android apps, could this be possible interresting for sailfish too?17:03
r0kk3rztheres a number of improvements in 5.4 that is beneficial, so im sure it will happen17:03
r0kk3rzbut its a big job, or at least the transition to 5.2 was17:04
r0kk3rzand didnt go particularly smoothly either17:04
nh1402_mobiler0kk3rz: what i want to do is modify the getAxisValue functions in here to get from Sailfish instead      https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/native/+/android-5.1.1_r4/libs/input/Input.cpp17:04
Taaemnh1402_mobile: how about you draw a invincible mouse area with QML and from that you send your axis to libinput via cpp17:05
r0kk3rzthe value you get from that is wrong?17:05
r0kk3rzare you porting an android app to native sailfish?17:06
locusfno, trying to assemble a rudimentary android support for Jolla devices17:07
nh1402_mobilethat doesn't seem to get input at all. I've modified the init.rc file in Sailfish to turn on android services and that allows me to boot to CM. but input doesn't work17:07
locusfyes17:07
r0kk3rzoh right, an open version of alien-dalvik17:07
locusfyeh17:08
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r0kk3rzin which case finding out who knows about lipstick is probably worth while17:09
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locusfJolla devices :p, meanted ported devices17:09
r0kk3rzw00t maybe17:09
locusfinput handling isn't in lipstick17:09
nh1402_mobiler0kk3rz: that's the idea, so need to get input from sailfish instead of where its currently getting it from17:09
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locusfsorry to butt in, I'll shutup now :)17:11
nh1402_mobilemain plan is to get android app support working for phones that sailfish is ported to. Then once that's working then look at getting an aosp rom/library or something to work on sailfish natively17:12
r0kk3rzwell, releasing sailfish android support from the clutches of myriad is a worthy cause17:13
r0kk3rzbut definitely worth tracking down the relevant sailor to assist17:14
nh1402_mobilelocusf: no need to shut up, any help to find how to get input handling at low level is welcome. You've already established that looking in lipstick source code isn't going to help17:15
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locusfnh1402_mobile: hehe I though you established that :), lipstick does the input propagation to the applications though17:16
nh1402_mobiler0kk3rz the problem with that is that they're probably too busy to help17:16
locusfbut it won't help since we need the input just for the android17:16
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nh1402_mobilelocusf: i believe you were the one who provided the link to the source code of lipstick when i was trying to find the right methods to use which there wasn't any in lipstick17:18
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locusfnh1402_mobile: oh yes17:18
r0kk3rzthey can usually make time for informational type requests17:18
r0kk3rzand point you in the right direction, but given where they are in relation to the tablet release? yeah maybe not17:19
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nh1402_mobileI'll either have to modify input.cpp or go to a higher level, like inputmanager or something17:19
r0kk3rzthere must be a low devel input device somewhere17:20
r0kk3rz*level17:20
nh1402_mobilei thought it might be in mce but couldnt find anything other than double tap code17:21
locusfthe odd thing is that they will have android support for the tablet as well, I thought it was coupled to Jolla device features17:21
r0kk3rzi suspect its coupled to hybris17:22
nh1402_mobilethe tablet is a Jolla device, no?17:22
locusfnh1402_mobile: did you get anything when running getevent17:22
locusfnh1402_mobile: sure, just meant the phone17:22
r0kk3rzi thought the only main roadblock for the ports was that its proprietary17:23
nh1402_mobilei haven't modified any code yet. was just looking to see how i would go about modifying it.17:23
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nh1402_mobileso i know what I would be doing, in a way. was going to wait till i upgrade to fibre broadband so i could build the aosp tree with my then changes.17:24
nh1402_mobilebut i could do it sooner if someone else can build it, and ill provide modified files, once they're modified17:25
locusfthat would be possible if I'd just have build server working :/17:27
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Nokius|mobilekimmoli: simile17:28
Nokius|mobile*smile17:28
nh1402_mobilelocusf,  r0kk3rz maybe vgrade could provide some information but he's been very busy as of late.17:29
r0kk3rzyeah17:30
r0kk3rzlpotter might be able to help too17:30
r0kk3rzand of course Stskeeps17:33
nh1402_mobileactually, how would the eventX files look for touch input, maybe i can format it into a way to be used17:35
kimmoliNokius|mobile: ?17:37
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Nokius|mobilekimmoli: just at work and saw an update checking it17:43
kimmoliah ok17:44
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nh1402_mobiler0kk3rz you think it would work via sdl?18:01
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spiiroinnh1402_mobile: I'm not sure if I understand what you're doing, but if you are looking for where touch input is read from: it is some of the /dev/input/event* file18:13
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spiiroinboth mce & lipstick process those. mce mostly just to track user activity, plus as a special case double tap emulation. lipstick does whatever it needs to do to provide qt level input stuff18:15
mal-qt5 evdevtouch plugin is getting the input from the device18:17
nh1402_mobileim trying to modify libinput from android so it gets the data from Sailfish instead.18:17
nh1402_mobilehttps://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/native/+/android-5.1.1_r4/libs/input/Input.cpp18:18
nh1402_mobilethe getaxis value function in particular (i think)18:20
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nh1402_mobilewhen i say i think, i believe thats what I need to change so its getting the value from sailfish and not somewhere else18:26
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spiiroinI might  be and probably am completely wrong, but that looks like more or less generic input event class - i.e. that might work as is and the thing that needs to be changed is whatever is generating and feeding input events to android ui18:34
* spiiroin does not even know how qt side input processing works18:34
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nh1402_mobilei believe android apps get it via Motionevent and motionevent uses native methods found in input.cpp, and from there it uses the getaxisvalue method18:36
nh1402_mobilealso found in the same input. cpp file18:37
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nh1402so I think I'm looking at the right file to modify18:50
nh1402unless I need to go deeper18:51
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r0kk3rzwe must go deeper19:41
r0kk3rzinto the void19:41
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nh1402is that serious comment about going deeper19:44
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nh1402r0kk3erz: unless that was a reference, which I didn't get.19:49
nh1402r0kk3rz19:49
locusfhaven't watxhed inception?19:49
nh1402I have, but don't remember that line19:51
nh1402I thought that was a Dr Who reference at first.19:55
r0kk3rzits a reference, but im not sure what from20:00
r0kk3rzi know nothing of android internals to make comment either way20:01
locusfwe gotta nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure20:01
r0kk3rzapparently inception is correct20:01
r0kk3rzhttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-need-to-go-deeper20:01
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r0kk3rzi should watch inception again, but im sure its not going to be better the second time around20:03
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nh1402I know about "we need to go deeper", but "into the void" threw me20:28
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nh1402r0ckk3rz: I don't know too much about android internals, just been learning about bits and pieces to see how one would get android app support working.20:37
nh1402r0kk3rz damn it keep making mistakes with your nick20:41
r0kk3rzits a tricky one20:42
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Nokiuskimmoli: I did found any thing about gist api limit on there api page20:52
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Nokius*didn't22:03
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