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| Thaodan | does bluez4 support AVRCP ? | 00:46 |
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| Sailor6988 | it ends up showing no contact in whatsup contact.. | 03:22 |
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| xkr47 | hi | 05:59 |
| xkr47 | is it possible to (one-shot) disable charging over usb (i.e. use it just for data) | 06:00 |
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| tortoisedoc | xkr47 : why would you disable charging? | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | i could mention several scenarios where i'd want to do that | 06:28 |
| tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : like? | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | well, that the mobile has more than enough battery to carry it's own but my laptop wouldn't | 06:28 |
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| tortoisedoc | true to that | 06:29 |
| tortoisedoc | i guess that's the default only if the mobile is 100% | 06:29 |
| tortoisedoc | loaded | 06:29 |
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| xkr47 | tortoisedoc, because it drains my laptop that is not connected to AC :) | 06:36 |
| xkr47 | ok sorry duped Stskeeps there :) | 06:36 |
| tortoisedoc | :) | 06:36 |
| tortoisedoc | why keep it connected via usb | 06:36 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc: tethering? | 06:37 |
| tortoisedoc | and not use tethering? | 06:37 |
| tortoisedoc | over wifi? | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | wifi tethering is shit expensive in power | 06:37 |
| xkr47 | +1 | 06:37 |
| tortoisedoc | assuming you can switch of the charging via usb, yes | 06:37 |
| xkr47 | ^^ | 06:37 |
| xkr47 | so, how do we do it? | 06:37 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 06:37 |
| tortoisedoc | hm | 06:38 |
| tortoisedoc | could there be something in mce | 06:38 |
| tortoisedoc | to force the phone to stop charging | 06:38 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 06:39 |
| locusf | usb-moded had several states but I don't recall wether there were any for power only | 06:39 |
| xkr47 | we want everything except power :) | 06:39 |
| locusf | ah .. | 06:40 |
| locusf | yes | 06:40 |
| tortoisedoc | seems xkr47 is not the only one | 06:42 |
| tortoisedoc | http://superuser.com/questions/429097/how-to-disable-usb-charging-of-external-devices-in-windows-7 | 06:42 |
| tortoisedoc | (except this is wind0wz | 06:42 |
| tortoisedoc | ) | 06:42 |
| tortoisedoc | ..but this "Your only chance is to disable the USB hub that hosts this port altogether" sounds rather grim | 06:43 |
| xkr47 | I started thinking whether you could adjust the maximum power advertised by the port | 06:43 |
| xkr47 | to 100mA | 06:43 |
| xkr47 | but haven't found an answer yet | 06:43 |
| xkr47 | surfing in /sys/.../usb1/... now :) | 06:44 |
| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 06:44 |
| spiiroin | tortoisedoc: mce just monitors charging state (for leds, psm etc), but does not control it in any way | 06:45 |
| xkr47 | $ ls -l bMaxPower | 06:45 |
| xkr47 | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jun 10 07:49 bMaxPower | 06:45 |
| xkr47 | whhyyyy read only :D | 06:45 |
| xkr47 | $ cat bMaxPower | 06:45 |
| xkr47 | 500mA | 06:45 |
| tortoisedoc | xkr47 : cause kernel? | 06:45 |
| xkr47 | yeees | 06:45 |
| xkr47 | *poke kernel source* | 06:46 |
| tortoisedoc | how about autosuspend_delay_ms? | 06:49 |
| tortoisedoc | if you can "fool" the device to tell it's autosuspended | 06:49 |
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| xkr47 | the default is 2000 | 06:51 |
| xkr47 | incidentally I will soon run out of laptop batterny | 06:52 |
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| xkr47 | seems jolla only has a configuration descriptor for 500mA | 06:57 |
| xkr47 | so I guess it would have to be the phone's responsibility to humbly stop sucking energy from the laptop | 06:58 |
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| xkr47 | omg the bus I'm on has 220V power outlets on each seat | 07:06 |
| xkr47 | charge on, jolla! :) | 07:06 |
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| daitheflu | Hi | 07:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hi daitheflu | 07:45 |
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| kimmoli | echo 1 > /sys/module/pm8921_charger/parameters/disabled | 07:47 |
| kimmoli | who was asking to disable charging? | 07:47 |
| tortoisedoc | xkr47 | 07:47 |
| kimmoli | and enable with echo 0 > /sys/module/pm8921_charger/parameters/disabled | 07:47 |
| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 07:47 |
| kimmoli | when disabled==1 gives notification that "sorry, charging does not work, try another charger" | 07:48 |
| kimmoli | or something polite anyways | 07:48 |
| tortoisedoc | heh :D | 07:48 |
| kimmoli | and if charger connected and echoing 0 there, it starts charging (no need to replug usb cable) | 07:48 |
| kimmoli | xkr47: ^^ | 07:48 |
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| tortoisedoc | id wonder, a plugin for the settings menu with a setting like this could be handy i guess | 07:50 |
| tortoisedoc | (== to manage a setting like this) | 07:50 |
| tortoisedoc | (as an additional option to the tethering menu) | 07:51 |
| tortoisedoc | problem is tho, phone should know about laptop's charge level | 07:51 |
| tortoisedoc | or another way | 07:51 |
| kimmoli | laptop should limit port current when its battery is low | 07:51 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : i think it did so | 07:52 |
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| tortoisedoc | <xkr47> $ cat bMaxPower [09:45] <xkr47> 500mA | 07:52 |
| tortoisedoc | <xkr47> the default is 2000 | 07:52 |
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| tortoisedoc | thing is laptop might drop that even tho it has 90% battery (depending on power settings) | 07:53 |
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| tortoisedoc | perhaps problem could be seen from other end | 07:53 |
| kimmoli | never know... but above echo is "jolla" way to stop charging :) | 07:53 |
| tortoisedoc | i.e. re-enable charging of phone only when battery level < min_bat | 07:54 |
| tortoisedoc | (for example 30%) | 07:54 |
| tortoisedoc | lol | 07:54 |
| tortoisedoc | jolla echo is best echo | 07:54 |
| kimmoli | :) | 07:54 |
| kimmoli | i'll write that down to TJC for the records | 07:55 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : http://elinux.org/APQ8064_MDP | 07:56 |
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| kimmoli | https://together.jolla.com/question/95476/how-to-prevent-charging-from-usb/ | 08:05 |
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| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : you mean disabling charging is not transitory (cause you should not run out of battery) | 09:24 |
| tortoisedoc | ? | 09:25 |
| kimmoli | ? | 09:25 |
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| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : from the tjc post | 09:37 |
| tortoisedoc | Warning: Do not allow phone battery to drain completely while charging disabled. | 09:37 |
| kimmoli | yes, remember to re-enable it before depleting battery | 09:38 |
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| Wnt | how can I list which extra packages I have installed to my SailfishSDK virtual machine using the web UI? I tried looking at /var/log/zypper.log but it doesn't seem to list any of those install operations | 09:39 |
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| Wnt | OK I think I found a way: 'sb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R' 'rpm --queryformat="%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}: %{INSTALLTIME:date}\n" -qa' | 09:45 |
| Jare | there's also /var/log/zypp/history | 09:45 |
| Wnt | ah, that also seems to list the history after changing in to the sb2 environment, thanks Jare! | 09:47 |
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| taaeem | Hello I need help i have a listmodel which delegates many items and one array so in the delegate i want a repeater to loop over that array and i also can get the index of the items in the array but when I want to use modelData it says: ReferenceError: modelData is not defined | 11:25 |
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| taaeem | Anyone here who has an idea? | 11:45 |
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| Wnt | I think you need to describe your problem a bit better. eg. putting a code sample to pastebin might help | 11:49 |
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| chem|st | any btrfs guru available? https://together.jolla.com/question/95490/jolla-phone-data-lost-because-disk-is-full/ | 12:35 |
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| taaeem | https://gist.github.com/taaem/e532a400393f212ab629 I get the data and append it to the listview and in the delegate I want to repeat over the tags | 12:56 |
| taaeem | Wnt: ^ | 12:56 |
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| Venemo | chem|st: try #btrfs | 13:51 |
| Venemo | chem|st: they are generally helpful :) | 13:51 |
| kimmoli | taaeem: what you expect to show with modelData? there should be some member of your model data afaiu ?? | 13:53 |
| kimmoli | string or other viewable thing | 13:54 |
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| taaeem | in the docs for the repeater is written taht if there is no key to value like "key: value" than the value is accessable thru the modelData variable | 14:05 |
| taaeem | The problem is that its an array and not an object so i dont have members | 14:06 |
| kimmoli | to what it should point? tags of Data.json? .. i need to go afk now, Wnt -ideas? code is too partial to get it easily tested. . | 14:12 |
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| taaeem | tags of Data.json yes | 14:16 |
| taaeem | Can upload the whole source later | 14:16 |
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| chem|st | generally helpful means no help since I asked... | 14:57 |
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| Venemo | hey | 14:59 |
| Venemo | why do we have Sailfish OS IDE? Why doesn't the upstream Qt Creator support Sailfish OS? | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | well, part of the story is that the things that are needed to build for sailfish isn't upstreamable | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | second, it comes with an emulator | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | and documentation/samples/etc | 15:01 |
| Venemo | but then I'll end up having 2 Qt Creators on my system... | 15:02 |
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| Venemo | for instance, why doesn't it just install a plugin into the already installed Qt Creator? | 15:07 |
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| chem|st | Venemo: no help from #btrfs yet... | 15:10 |
| Venemo | chem|st: what exactly is the problem? | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: the methods needed are a bit more invasive | 15:10 |
| chem|st | unmountable rootfs | 15:10 |
| Venemo | chem|st: have you tried a rebalance? | 15:11 |
| chem|st | Venemo: which part of unmountable didn't you understand? | 15:11 |
| chem|st | or am I just to dumb to find a way to rebalance an unmounted btrfs? | 15:12 |
| Venemo | chem|st: I thought it can be done without mounting. sorry! | 15:12 |
| chem|st | np | 15:12 |
| chem|st | I thought it might be a good idea to have that option as btrfs locks up completely when the disk is full... | 15:13 |
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| chem|st | isn't that one of the major things in FS management, when it is full it still has to work? | 15:14 |
| chem|st | 'essentials' | 15:14 |
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| chem|st | the more I learn about btrfs I think jffs was more reliable at times | 15:15 |
| Venemo | chem|st: have you taken a look at the advice on this page? https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Problem_FAQ | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: +1 | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:15 |
| chem|st | not as fast no features but at least it worked very well | 15:15 |
| Venemo | chem|st: there's some stuff they recommend to try if you can't mount | 15:15 |
| chem|st | -o recovery I think that might not be available with sfos, is it? | 15:16 |
| Venemo | I haven't a clue | 15:17 |
| Venemo | but it sounded like something worth a try | 15:18 |
| Venemo | also their restore tool | 15:18 |
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| Venemo | there is also a btrfsck, have you tried that? | 15:19 |
| chem|st | Venemo: it is not my device, nor do I have the device... | 15:19 |
| Venemo | ah. | 15:19 |
| Venemo | okay. | 15:20 |
| chem|st | a $user on together | 15:20 |
| Venemo | in that case, he should just send it to jolla care | 15:20 |
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| chem|st | they wont recover his files | 15:22 |
| chem|st | he could just do a factory reset | 15:22 |
| Venemo | well then the best thing to try is the https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Restore | 15:23 |
| chem|st | what version was btrfs-progs again? | 15:24 |
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| chem|st | well I wrote all that now in the together... | 15:27 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: any idea about transmigrating the jolla1 to lvm too? | 15:30 |
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| chem|st | was thinking about an on boot restructuring with an uSD for moving stuff around... | 15:30 |
| chem|st | as it seems to not like unmounting partitions while running^^ | 15:31 |
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| Sailor6988 | hi | 15:42 |
| Sailor6988 | all | 15:42 |
| Tofe | chem|st: I'll never try this without a dd of my whole partition and a way to reflash it back :) even if it's official tool | 15:44 |
| chem|st | Tofe: I am not talking official yet... I am thinking about how it could be done and if there is some double effort at jolla | 15:51 |
| chem|st | I will make sure I have a flashable image at hand... | 15:52 |
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| rubdos | kimmoli, second version: https://twitter.com/rubdos/status/608637306493374464/photo/1 | 16:26 |
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| kimmoli | rubdos: add non copper pour area for nfc sticker, it does hold better on pcb than 3d print | 16:33 |
| rubdos | kimmoli, I'm probably only making the pad. I found an Australian who can make .6mm PCB's and the highest component is 1mm. I'm going to try that. If that doesn't work, I'll try kapton pcb's or make a complete otherhalf. | 16:34 |
| rubdos | remember that the pad is designed for Jolla, I tried to minimize the bulging and the stress on the plastic. | 16:35 |
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| rubdos | perhaps I should try sticking 1.6 mm in my jolla... | 16:36 |
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| * rubdos finds out there really isn't any space in the Jolla :( | 16:41 | |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah by all accounts theres zero room behind the standard cover | 16:49 |
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| haasn | Hmm, fingerterm seems to have locked itself up somehow, while I was running a (rather large) tar operation, and I'm not sure if said operation is still running | 16:49 |
| haasn | Seems like it isn't | 16:49 |
| haasn | Any idea how I could recover? I don't want to restart | 16:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | ps should show it running | 16:57 |
| r0kk3rz | if its not, then its not | 16:57 |
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| haasn | r0kk3rz: it's running but not doing anything | 17:01 |
| haasn | (apparently) | 17:01 |
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| haasn | That's the first thing I checked, but I think it's not doing anything because it's trying to print to STDOUT but failing | 17:02 |
| haasn | (I turned on verbose mode) | 17:02 |
| haasn | or something | 17:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | fg [pid]?? | 17:04 |
| haasn | bash: fg: 15798: no such job | 17:04 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm fg doesnt take pid, maybe do 'jobs' and see if its there | 17:04 |
| r0kk3rz | but it most likely needed to be explicitly put to background using bg | 17:05 |
| haasn | r0kk3rz: Aren't jobs per-shell? | 17:05 |
| r0kk3rz | probably | 17:05 |
| haasn | And I never backgrounded it | 17:05 |
| haasn | The term just locked itself up | 17:05 |
| r0kk3rz | im no expert, but its likely you will have to kill it | 17:05 |
| r0kk3rz | and maybe try again in a screen | 17:05 |
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| haasn | r0kk3rz: Heh, I got it to work | 17:36 |
| haasn | installed gdb on the phone, attached to the process, dup2'd FDs 0 and 1 to /dev/null | 17:36 |
| haasn | Now it resumed | 17:36 |
| haasn | Instead of blocking forever on a dead terminal | 17:36 |
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| haasn | (Maybe fingerterm shouldn't crash ;)) | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | haasn: haxx0r | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:36 |
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| kimmoli | rubdos: FYI https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/The_other_half | 18:59 |
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| Paul___ | Hello all | 18:59 |
| Paul___ | just getting into sailfish here. | 18:59 |
| kimmoli | hello | 19:00 |
| Paul___ | I dont see android support in the store for my Nexus4. is it not available for 3rd party ports? | 19:00 |
| kimmoli | not available. | 19:00 |
| Paul___ | ok. Thanks! | 19:01 |
| Paul___ | I also saw some mention on sailfish for Nexus 7 2013 FLO. | 19:02 |
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| Paul___ | does anyone have info on that? | 19:02 |
| Paul___ | where can I find the FLO zip? | 19:02 |
| raa700_ | https://plus.google.com/+VadimRutkovsky/posts/anfWQDB8vm4 | 19:03 |
| Paul___ | Many thanks | 19:04 |
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