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| olpe | Hey. Does somebody know if active installs stats in harbour include installations from openrepos or not? | 04:43 |
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| TemeV | olpe: of course not | 04:46 |
| olpe | Ok. Not even if you install from store and then update from openrepos or vice versa? | 04:47 |
| TemeV | how could they get the stats from openrepos to harbour? | 04:47 |
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| TemeV | in those cases maybe | 04:48 |
| TemeV | I don't know really | 04:49 |
| olpe | yeah. Ok. So it's pretty damn difficult to know exact amount of downloads and active installs | 04:51 |
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| TemeV | olpe: if you have it in open repos also, then yes you can't really know it | 05:23 |
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| olpe | TemeV :( | 05:48 |
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| greenit | hi, i don't know if I'm right here, so I just ask: is it possible to create an app for jolla which blocks unwanted sms? if yes, is there already an app which does this? | 07:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | greenit: not easy | 07:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you need to hook very low on the middleware stack | 07:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | of course, if won't be harbour-compliant | 07:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but you can try | 07:59 |
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| greenit | SfietKonstantinW: thanks for the info :) | 08:03 |
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| TemeV | greenit: if you want to look into it https://github.com/nemomobile/commhistory-daemon and https://github.com/nemomobile/libcommhistory might be a place to start | 08:05 |
| TemeV | as I said on #jollamobile I'm kind of working with that so let me know if you have some progress :) | 08:06 |
| greenit | TemeV: i will, but I doubt that I'll make some progress there in the foreseeable future. ;) | 08:08 |
| greenit | mainly because I normally write code in java or python and not c++... | 08:09 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | TemeV + greenit commhistory is where smses are stored | 08:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maybe the best would be to block at source | 08:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | dunno | 08:21 |
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| TemeV | SfietKonstantinW: and commhistory also handles the notifications iirc, so it might be only sensible place to block them | 08:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TemeV: true | 08:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I wonder if we can hack commhistory to make it load "blocking plugins" | 08:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or something easy: just build a fork of comhistory, with blocking features | 08:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hum interesting | 08:42 |
| SfietKonstantinW | something to do for a side project :) | 08:42 |
| TemeV | forking and then hoping for the patch to get upstreamed is the "right way" in my opinion :) | 08:43 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | TemeV: fork on github, do some work, pull request | 08:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and you are done | 08:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | however, I wonder how to do this filtering thing | 08:45 |
| TemeV | yes, of course. Somebody just has to also accept the pull request | 08:45 |
| TemeV | Maybe adding some column to the database to say this contact is muted/blocked/whatever | 08:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you open a nice breach (like here: you need to read either data or metadata from your smses), then a malicious packager can drop a plugin or some script to listen your smses | 08:46 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TemeV: I was thinking of simply not adding them in db | 08:46 |
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| TemeV | SfietKonstantinW: but you have to somewhere store info about what contacts are not added to db | 08:47 |
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| TemeV | I was kind of thinking a solution where messages are saved anyway but not showed to the user | 08:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TemeV: what smses | 08:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | why not | 08:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but you need to alter db scheme | 08:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or adding one table | 08:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | "filtered smses" | 08:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | this smells like duplication = bad too | 08:48 |
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| TemeV | yes, altering the scheme is not optimal | 08:48 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | https://github.com/nemomobile/libcommhistory/blob/7f8cca41531072b800150370a5bc7e87494e78c3/src/commhistorydatabase.cpp | 08:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the db scheme is here | 08:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maybe there is a column of flags or metadata we can use | 08:49 |
| TemeV | The best place for it would be Groups table | 08:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maybe we should ask special | 08:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | a group of "unwanted" smses ? | 08:50 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | hum that sounds like something | 08:50 |
| TemeV | Group is like a contact | 08:51 |
| TemeV | but it can be also group chat or what not | 08:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I think group is group chat | 08:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | like when you send a sms to multiple people | 08:51 |
| TemeV | It can be also single contact | 08:51 |
| TemeV | and in most cases it is | 08:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you also have EventProperties | 08:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I think that we can sneak something in this | 08:52 |
| TemeV | Event is a single message/phonecall/etc | 08:52 |
| TemeV | There needs to be info for the contact that it is blocked, so Group would be optimal place for that | 08:52 |
| SfietKonstantinW | too bad that there is not an UML diagram for this | 08:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | for what I see we have Event * <--> 1 EventProperties | 08:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | when you select Event for a conversation for example, you can filter on EventProperties, can't you ? | 08:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Group sounds like feature hidjacking | 08:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | although it is not that bad either | 08:54 |
| coderus | http://sourceforge.net/p/scumstopper/wiki/Home/ check last paragraph | 08:54 |
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| TemeV | coderus: thanks, so that confirms that blocking needs to be coded to commhistoryd | 08:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: good | 08:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | that's interesting | 08:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 08:57 |
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| cmacrae | Hi guys - could someone explain to me, briefly, how the IP over USB functionality of developer mode works? | 09:15 |
| Armadillo | hm, developer mode doesn't work anymore with Fedora 22 :-/ | 09:15 |
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| Armadillo | cmacrae: it creates a virtual network interface over usb and offers dhcp adresses at that interface | 09:17 |
| cmacrae | Armadillo: Sweet, that's all I need to know - thank you | 09:18 |
| coderus | why virtual? rndis. | 09:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Armadillo: it works for me | 09:18 |
| cmacrae | ^ figured that'd be it, coderus | 09:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maybe config issue ? | 09:18 |
| Armadillo | maybe yes | 09:18 |
| coderus | Armadillo: dhcp? | 09:18 |
| Armadillo | state is unkown and no configs available | 09:18 |
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| coderus | usbX is up? | 09:19 |
| coderus | maybe you have no kern driver for usb network | 09:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | on fedora it is a horrible name | 09:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | not something nice like usbX | 09:19 |
| Armadillo | coderus: as already said, state is unknown literally ;) | 09:20 |
| Armadillo | ifup gives a configuration not found | 09:21 |
| coderus | you need ko | 09:21 |
| Armadillo | I'll try to provide a default dhcp configuration | 09:21 |
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| Osanwe | Armadillo: I use wi-fi connection between fedora 22 and sailfish. It works greate | 09:21 |
| Osanwe | great* | 09:21 |
| Armadillo | if I could use it, I would use it ;) | 09:24 |
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| cmacrae | Armadillo: So, when you plug your device in, and select 'Developer mode' from the prompt on the device, you don't see a new interface on your computer, when running `ip a`? | 09:28 |
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| Armadillo | cmacrae: the device is being created, but the link can' | 09:32 |
| Armadillo | t be established | 09:32 |
| Armadillo | [ 3765.888879] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): enp0s29f7u5: link is not ready | 09:32 |
| Armadillo | oh maybe ipv6 is the problem | 09:33 |
| cmacrae | Have you tried setting IPv6 to off for that interface? | 09:33 |
| cmacrae | Hah, yeah :) | 09:33 |
| Armadillo | currently doing this | 09:33 |
| Armadillo | ^^ | 09:33 |
| Armadillo | brb lunch =) | 09:35 |
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| locusf | just do dhclient -v enp0s29f7u5 | 09:38 |
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| cvp_ | is there any german devs online? | 10:01 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 10:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | any buteo / Exchange guru ? | 10:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | apart Valerio ? | 10:02 |
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| Armadillo | No DHCPOFFERS received. | 10:17 |
| Armadillo | :-/ | 10:17 |
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| coderus | Armadillo: so, dhcp on phone not working? | 10:25 |
| coderus | check service | 10:25 |
| tathhu | Armadillo: https://together.jolla.com/question/95261/bug-update-11627-breaks-unofficial-usb-tethering/ ? | 10:25 |
| Armadillo | hm | 10:26 |
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| Armadillo | there's no udhcdp.conf, the symlink points to nonexisting file /tmp/udhcpd.conf | 10:31 |
| Armadillo | deleted it and reboot is running | 10:32 |
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| cmacrae | Armadillo: Did you try disabling IPv6 for the interface? | 10:40 |
| Armadillo | it worked after rebooting the PC, too | 10:44 |
| cmacrae | Heh, a Windows fix, ey? ;) | 10:45 |
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| Armadillo | a Windows fix for Fedora :P | 10:45 |
| cmacrae | Haha | 10:46 |
| Armadillo | I assume a borked network script because of the testing caused it | 10:46 |
| TemeV | Fedora remainds me of Windows also in the sense it wants to boot every now and then to install updates :) | 10:46 |
| cmacrae | Blegh | 10:47 |
| Armadillo | hehe | 10:47 |
| cmacrae | I run it at here at work - I've recently aquired a love for NixOS at home, really enjoying it | 10:48 |
| cmacrae | A refreshing approach | 10:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | NixOS ? | 10:48 |
| TemeV | http://nixos.org/ | 10:48 |
| Yaniel | I should try it someday | 10:49 |
| Yaniel | it looks interesting | 10:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | interesting | 10:50 |
| Armadillo | well I'm familiar with Fedora since version 14 or something like that and it works much better than any of my tries with Ubuntu | 10:50 |
| Armadillo | also the major upgrades work quite well since many versions | 10:50 |
| Armadillo | so for me there's no need to test something else | 10:51 |
| cmacrae | NixOS is great. I'd definitely recommend it to those curious | 10:52 |
| TemeV | how is the repos in NixOS? | 10:52 |
| cmacrae | Armadillo: Yep, that's fair enough | 10:52 |
| cmacrae | TemeV: In what sense? :) | 10:52 |
| TemeV | I mean, is there new or stable software :) | 10:52 |
| cmacrae | Oh, there's stable, bleeding-edge, and even 'small' variations of both | 10:53 |
| cmacrae | http://nixos.org/channels/ | 10:53 |
| cmacrae | One common thing people seem to mention about NixOS is the lack of available packages.... but I'm yet to find anything missing | 10:54 |
| cmacrae | But, contrary to that, the creation of a new nix package is very easy :) | 10:55 |
| TemeV | That is usually problem with anything else than debian based or fedora :) | 10:55 |
| TemeV | what does small variation mean? | 10:55 |
| cmacrae | TemeV: What's the context? | 10:56 |
| TemeV | < cmacrae> http://nixos.org/channels/ | 10:56 |
| cmacrae | Oh, haha, sorry! | 10:56 |
| cmacrae | It's the same repos, just less packages | 10:57 |
| cmacrae | For systems that may not need GUI stuff | 10:57 |
| cmacrae | That sort of thing | 10:57 |
| TemeV | can't really see a point for that, but ok | 10:57 |
| cmacrae | Yeah, it's more from a developer standpoint, rather than concern of binary packages being present in a remote repo | 10:57 |
| cmacrae | Smaller package repository means faster build tests and evaluation where GUI packages aren't a concern | 10:58 |
| TemeV | ok, makes sense | 10:59 |
| cmacrae | Speaking of all this - as I don't want to stray too much away from the topic of Sailfish; | 10:59 |
| cmacrae | I've only been playing with Sailfish a couple days - since I got my Jolla | 10:59 |
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| cmacrae | But, I hope to build some packages. I'll be looking into setting up a build environment on NixOS | 11:00 |
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| cmacrae | Without the need for a VirtualBox VM, or any of that - I'll do a blog post on it, and be sure to share it when done :) | 11:00 |
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| TemeV | it has been done already | 11:01 |
| TemeV | http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/2014/03/29/running-sailfishos-build-engine-outside-virtualbox-vm/ | 11:02 |
| cmacrae | Yep, I saw that :) I mean to adapt it to a container and fit it in with NixOS | 11:03 |
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| TemeV | ah, ok | 11:03 |
| cmacrae | Right, brb - picking up some food | 11:03 |
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| coderus | you mean this? https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-June/006239.html | 11:11 |
| cmacrae | Ooo, nice one coderus - thanks for sharing | 11:18 |
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| Thaodan | someone ever tried to build purple-skypeweb for sailfish? | 12:22 |
| Thaodan | https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypeweb | 12:23 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | Thaodan: added on the list of stuff I should check | 12:26 |
| Thaodan | thanks | 12:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I think a rewrite would be required | 12:27 |
| Thaodan | my device is sadly in warranty service now | 12:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | there is no pidgin on sfos | 12:27 |
| Thaodan | nope you're wrong | 12:27 |
| Thaodan | telepath-gabble aeay works fine on sailfish | 12:28 |
| Thaodan | so you can use this with gabble | 12:28 |
| Thaodan | like I do with ktp (kde telepathy on arch) | 12:28 |
| Thaodan | I updated jolla together about this: https://together.jolla.com/question/308/add-skype-integration-to-sailfish-os/?answer=98553#post-id-98553 | 12:30 |
| TemeV | SfietKonstantinW: can't it be used with telepathy-haze? | 12:34 |
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| TemeV | and Thaodan ^ | 12:36 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: what you mean with <name>^^? | 12:36 |
| TemeV | that the previous message is for you too | 12:37 |
| TemeV | ^ is an up arrow :) | 12:37 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | TemeV: you need to build telepathy haze then | 12:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I think that you can do a very simple app without much stuff | 12:41 |
| TemeV | I think it is in the repos | 12:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah | 12:42 |
| Yaniel | hey TemeV how's the native telegram integration doing? | 12:42 |
| TemeV | On a summer break :) | 12:43 |
| Thaodan | SfietKonstantinW: telepathy-haze already works fine | 12:43 |
| TemeV | didn't coderus even create an accounts plugin for it | 12:44 |
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| cvp_ | TemeV: yes - ICQ | 12:51 |
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| Morpog_PC | Btw Stskeeps any comment about that? I haven't tried it by mself but from reading it, it should be used by default? | 13:30 |
| Morpog_PC | https://together.jolla.com/question/92552/howto-make-disk-io-more-responsive-for-example-during-btrfs-balance/ | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: i think somebody was investigating that | 13:30 |
| Morpog_PC | good :D | 13:31 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | Thaodan & TemeV I think that we should really look at that skype web thingie since: https://blog.jolla.com/a-look-at-jolla-tablet-backers/ | 13:34 |
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| Thaodan | SfietKonstantinW: this should be just an issue with building and improving telepathy gabble | 13:37 |
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| Thaodan | building is a 10min job i tink | 13:38 |
| locusf | and purple | 13:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 13:43 |
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| TemeV | SfietKonstantinW: interesting | 13:58 |
| TemeV | I didn't think Skype would be that popular still | 13:58 |
| leinir | popular no, in wide spread use yes | 13:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I wonder if you can pipe the html audio / video stream | 13:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | need to do tests | 13:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (so much projects to look at, so little time :() | 14:00 |
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| Thaodan | SfietKonstantinW: currently the plugin doesn't supports it, but don't know if telepathy-gabble even supports voice and video chat | 14:02 |
| Thaodan | the best way would if it would be a native telepathy-plugin | 14:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Thaodan: the best would be open sourced messaging app | 14:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | because even if video & audio is supported, there is no way to hook it up atm | 14:03 |
| Thaodan | SfietKonstantinW: part of the message app is oss | 14:05 |
| Thaodan | is uses nemo messaging qml plugin which oss | 14:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | true | 14:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but for calls we might require access to the phone app | 14:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | that might be partially oss too | 14:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | first POC is, IMO: a libwebskype (written with whatever framework, but maybe better with Qt) | 14:06 |
| TemeV | It seems to me that messagin app is practically open. All the middle ware is open and the qml is in the phone ready to be hacked | 14:06 |
| SfietKonstantinW | with a light qml gui to test features | 14:06 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and then, we hook stuff | 14:06 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TemeV: you are right | 14:06 |
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| TemeV | wasn't there some poc voip call thingie also? | 14:07 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | true | 14:08 |
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| TemeV | now I just need to remember my skype credentials to test this skype thingie... | 14:20 |
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| TemeV | Ok, no I just need to remember my really old hotmail credentials to access the email to get a new skype password | 14:22 |
| Acce | we must go deeper.. | 14:24 |
| TemeV | seems to be working with telepathy-haze | 14:31 |
| TemeV | on Fedora, didn't try with Sailfish yet | 14:31 |
| TemeV | At least I can log in, the test call didn't work | 14:36 |
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| XwZ | hi guys | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | hello hello | 18:37 |
| XwZ | what is the best way to store persistant data ? Is it LocalStorage ? or there is a specific way on SailfishOs ? | 18:37 |
| Osanwe | XwZ: I think LocalStorage is good choice. I use this for some my tasks. | 18:40 |
| XwZ | Osanwe: ok thank you :) | 18:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | qsettings is also good if you only want to store a few key value pairs | 19:24 |
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| TemeV | Thaodan: Have you been using telepathy-qt 0.9.6.1 still on Jolla? Any problems? | 20:00 |
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| Thaodan | Stskeeps: sorry i was away, yes this idea would be very good, maybe contact the dev about this | 20:26 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: yes just improve the oss parts of the message app and just hack the message app a patchmanager patch | 20:27 |
| Thaodan | TemeV: it don't supports cals as I far now, chatting works fine | 20:28 |
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| Thaodan | TemeV: telepathy-qt 0.9.6.1 stil works fine, at least till my phone died since power connector was broken | 20:28 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Thaodan & TemeV still there ? :) | 20:52 |
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| Thaodan | Stskeeps: yes | 20:56 |
| Thaodan | eh | 20:56 |
| Thaodan | SfietKonstantin: yes | 20:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nope, I'm Sfiet_Konstantin | 21:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :P | 21:02 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | raah, I really don't like C | 21:04 |
| Thaodan | why you I if im still hee? | 21:06 |
| Thaodan | *here | 21:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ? | 21:06 |
| Thaodan | you wrote [22:52] <Sfiet_Konstantin> Thaodan & TemeV still there ? :), why? | 21:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just to ask :) | 21:10 |
| Thaodan | ah ok | 21:11 |
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| * satmd waves at sts | 21:21 | |
| satmd | :) | 21:21 |
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| XwZ | how can I add menu to my BackgroundItem, i found a way to do it weeks ago but I don't find the link again | 22:40 |
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| coderus | XwZ: using ListItem instead of BackgroundItem | 22:48 |
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| coderus | and read the docs about listitem | 22:48 |
| XwZ | coderus: ok I found I issue .. after a long I realized that I had a MouseArea on item ! | 22:52 |
| XwZ | thank you | 22:53 |
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| satmd | can I somehow force buteo/msync to forget any synchronisation status and try to sync again? | 23:59 |
| satmd | it seems to stop after the first contact always | 23:59 |
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