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| BBLobster | Hi, may be someone have already implemented component for showing multuple images? Like in Gallery app? | 01:12 |
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| BBLobster | I tried to do it by myself via SlideshowView but I got bug - if I increase image and then decrease to it own size I cannot navigate no more | 01:15 |
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| B22 | Hello! Im making an app and I want it to pause when its in cover mode. How can quarry whether the application is minimized or not? | 01:43 |
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| coderus | BBLobster: why not check gallery qml? | 10:00 |
| coderus | BBLobster: Qt.application.active property | 10:01 |
| coderus | oops | 10:01 |
| coderus | b22 | 10:01 |
| coderus | but he is away :D | 10:01 |
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| BBLobster | coderus: I don't know where I can find it | 10:02 |
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| BBLobster | I searched in offical sailfish repo on github but did not found | 10:05 |
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| coderus | BBLobster: on device of course | 10:11 |
| coderus | /usr/share/jolla-gallery | 10:11 |
| coderus | also in /usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Gallery | 10:11 |
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| thagabe | Hello | 12:54 |
| Yaniel | hi | 12:54 |
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| thagabe | So im trying to move from Android to Sailfish | 12:55 |
| ILnux | same here | 12:56 |
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| XwZ | is it really hard ? I mean, to me sailfish is pretty intuitive | 12:58 |
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| thagabe | Not that way | 12:59 |
| thagabe | I mean i want to get a new phone (been using the nexus 5) | 12:59 |
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| XwZ | oh ok, then good luck :) | 13:02 |
| Coolgeek | I'm the same, ordered phone (hop it will be there this week) | 13:02 |
| Coolgeek | and will work on something to import SMS and contact from my android | 13:03 |
| Coolgeek | I already managed to have a vcf file for contact and a csv for my SMS | 13:03 |
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| Dhraakellian | any recommendations on what phone works best (aside from the actual sailphone--I'm in the USA, and I'd like better than 2G)? | 13:07 |
| Dhraakellian | I like the n9's form factor and could go with a little bit bigger, but not much | 13:09 |
| XwZ | there is not a lot of recent mobiles like n9 | 13:09 |
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| XwZ | and to me n9 was perfect too | 13:10 |
| Dhraakellian | I remember hearing that the S3 worked pretty well with sailfishos, but I'm wondering if there's anything newer known to work fairly well | 13:14 |
| Dhraakellian | if I could have harmattan's window management with android app compatibility... | 13:14 |
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| Dhraakellian | (and don't get me started about being a tech support guy who reviled windows 8's stolen-from-the-n9 close-window gesture only to find that the win8 phones didn't actually use that guesture in the one form factor where it makes sense) | 13:16 |
| ayrie | you mean the drag down to the bottom from the multitasking tray? | 13:17 |
| ayrie | yeah, if you expect wp8 to be any similar to windows 8 you'll be very disappointed :( | 13:18 |
| Dhraakellian | if you expect win8.0 to be a good fit for any form factor | 13:19 |
| ayrie | 8.1 is all right though, as is WP8.1 | 13:19 |
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| ayrie | ugh, i'm trying to call my mom or my sister and neither of them are responding | 13:22 |
| Dhraakellian | and from what I've seen, Win10 should be halfway decent, at least on the basics. I didn't play around too much before I shrunk down the partition on my used thinkpad and installed linux on it | 13:22 |
| ayrie | i see | 13:23 |
| ayrie | i don't have any spare desktops or laptops to play around with | 13:23 |
| Coolgeek | VM ? | 13:23 |
| Dhraakellian | (as one who does internet help desk for a living, IP/MAC address in 3 clicks is *nice*) | 13:23 |
| ayrie | Coolgeek: not much hdd space :( | 13:23 |
| Coolgeek | make some :p | 13:23 |
| ayrie | my one laptop has 256GB SSD and my other laptop has 128GB SSD | 13:24 |
| Dhraakellian | but at any rate, speaking of installing different OSes... | 13:24 |
| ayrie | now phones, that's what i want to play around with | 13:24 |
| ayrie | i have an m7, six zte whirl 2s, a zte reef, and an lg fuel to fuck with | 13:24 |
| Dhraakellian | should I basically just look at the cyanogen compatibility list, or are there any particular android phones I should look at? | 13:24 |
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| coderus | #sailfishos-porters | 13:37 |
| coderus | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 13:38 |
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| Dhraakellian | thanks | 13:51 |
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| Victor | hi | 15:07 |
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| coderus | Hello!!! | 16:06 |
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| Nokius | taixzo: ping | 17:59 |
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| Nokius | taixzo: epseak/portaudio is packages can be found on OBS sou can add them to Saera on openrepos and make them depending to install I assume coderus or M4rtinK are kinf to help u since the have experiences there | 18:07 |
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| coderus | help with what? i dont understannd :) | 18:10 |
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| Nokius | coderus: his application depends on espeak and portaudio | 18:15 |
| Nokius | https://openrepos.net/content/taixzo/saera | 18:15 |
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| Nokius | coderus: I assume if he add the rpm to the openrepos repo and the dependence to the spec it will work better for the user | 18:15 |
| Nokius | coderus: or I wrong here | 18:15 |
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| coderus | he need to put espeak package to his repo also | 18:22 |
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| Nokius | coderus: sure I assume this is the trick sadly he is not arround | 18:38 |
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| Knofte | Will stuff like whatsapp, snapchat etc become native and not rely on googleapps/android support? Or that's a question for respective app-devels? | 20:25 |
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| r0kk3rz | Knofte: whatsapp in particular are fairly ruthless at stopping third-party clients | 20:38 |
| r0kk3rz | i wouldnt be surprised if snapchat was too, given the nature of that app | 20:38 |
| r0kk3rz | so it will up to them to create a first-party app for sailfishos | 20:38 |
| TemeV | well, snapchat should be really paranoid for third party apps | 20:39 |
| TemeV | if they want to concept to work | 20:39 |
| TemeV | though, I guess they can't prevent screenshots so, the idea os broken anyway | 20:39 |
| TemeV | *is broken | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah the concept is far from bulletproof | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | but i can imagine why they dont want a third-party app that just doesnt ever delete anything | 20:40 |
| TemeV | yes, that does make sense | 20:40 |
| TemeV | for whatsapp, they don't want third party apps, because those don't spy for them :p | 20:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | facebooks gotta make its money somehow | 20:42 |
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| Knofte | r0kk3rz: gotcha. | 20:43 |
| r0kk3rz | Knofte: a certain developer who shall remain nameless made a rather good whatsapp sailfish client | 20:44 |
| r0kk3rz | until whatsapp found out about it and banned everyone using it | 20:44 |
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| M4rtinK | I always wonder why people are using services provided by companies that behave like this... | 20:45 |
| Knofte | :( | 20:45 |
| chem|st | M4rtinK: because | 20:45 |
| M4rtinK | well, more knowledgeable users seems to mostly avoid them | 20:46 |
| M4rtinK | so probably lack of information - "it works so whatever" | 20:46 |
| chem|st | M4rtinK: even those get forced by their idiot friends to use it | 20:46 |
| M4rtinK | I think that's the biggest problem | 20:47 |
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| chem|st | the most annoying part is, those people upload their phonebooks to any app they come along, including but not limited to my full credentials | 20:47 |
| M4rtinK | fortunately none of my friends are suing crap like Whatsapp or Snapchat | 20:47 |
| M4rtinK | so either: | 20:47 |
| M4rtinK | 1) my friends aren't idiots or 2) I have no friends :) | 20:48 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: and most don't even realize it does that :) | 20:48 |
| r0kk3rz | we need a sailfish only equivalent | 20:49 |
| chem|st | M4rtinK: my running gag for friends demands like helping to move or alike is "send a whatsapp" | 20:49 |
| r0kk3rz | because who needs friends | 20:49 |
| r0kk3rz | when you have shipmates | 20:49 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: IRC is already limiting this :) | 20:49 |
| M4rtinK | friends don't mutiny :D | 20:49 |
| M4rtinK | well, hopefully | 20:49 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: and I hope I will be soon out of range of any celltowers | 20:49 |
| Knofte | M4rtinK: sometimtes you cant avoid things, because others are using them and you kind of "need" to be in the same place. | 20:50 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: easy - go underground :) | 20:50 |
| M4rtinK | Knofte: that indeed happens | 20:50 |
| M4rtinK | Knofte: like a friend being basically forced into using Facebook due to car ride-sharing | 20:51 |
| M4rtinK | Knofte: because that's what everyone is using for car-sharing in his area | 20:51 |
| Knofte | kinda fugged up :) | 20:52 |
| r0kk3rz | if you dont have facebook you're basically a third-class citizen these days | 20:54 |
| chem|st | M4rtinK: I want to go on a 3y around the world trip... just need to wait for it to be possible | 20:56 |
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| M4rtinK | chem|st: sounds interesting :) | 21:06 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: btw, "go" ? is it doable to walk around the world in 3 years ? :) | 21:06 |
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| chem|st | M4rtinK: to go on a trip, but yes it is possible by foot to some extent and people might be impressed how far you actually get | 21:13 |
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| chem|st | M4rtinK: looking to buy a yacht though, so no I won't "go" | 21:27 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: cool! :) | 21:28 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: a yacht is the best mobile home :) | 21:28 |
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| chem|st | M4rtinK: I love sailing and my dream is to go around the world at least once, it is expensive though | 21:53 |
| M4rtinK | I can imagine | 21:55 |
| M4rtinK | but it sounds like a nice & worthy goal :) | 21:55 |
| chem|st | on route you can calc about 10% of the yachts net worth in supplies annually | 21:56 |
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| chem|st | won't be available to support you though, internets is pretty expensive out there :) | 21:58 |
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| M4rtinK | chem|st: I've heard from a satellite internet provider | 22:28 |
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| M4rtinK | chem|st: that the *really* rich people buy *multiple* *dedicated* satellite frequency bands for the areas they frequent with their yachts | 22:29 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: and of course they also have satellite antennas with gyroscopic stabilization :) | 22:30 |
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| chem|st | M4rtinK: really rich people is everyone using those systems, their are plans like phone plans, prepaid or contract with volume or even unlimited, yes antennas are stabilized, how else would you do that on a moving yacht? An average connection like say 250MB/month is already eur1k and only 150kbps | 23:11 |
| chem|st | unlimited data is more like 3k/month | 23:12 |
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