Tuesday, 2015-09-01

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daithefluHi08:32
SfietKonstantinWhi daitheflu08:33
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daithefluhi SfietKonstantinW :)08:39
daithefluhow are you ?08:39
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SfietKonstantinWfine :)08:51
daitheflumay I bother you with some Sailfish/Qt dev questions ? ^^"08:54
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lukedirwalkerdaitheflu: why don't you just ask in here?09:15
daitheflulukedirwalker: I want to be sure to get at least one answer :P09:16
lukedirwalker:P why not first ask all and then ping people if no one answers? :D09:17
daithefluI often see questions unanswered here, I wanted to try another option09:19
daithefluwell, let's ask then :)09:19
daithefluI'm trying to build a TagPicker component (see https://together.jolla.com/question/104187/tag-picker/ )09:19
daithefluthe issue I have right now is how to pass and return data to the TagPicker Dialog09:20
daitheflushould I have one model for available tags and another one for selected tags ? Or only one ? Should I use javascript arrays ?09:21
daitheflu(please keep in mind that I would like to distribute it so it has to be convenient and "adjustable"09:22
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lukedirwalkerI would pass it as a model09:26
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lukedirwalkerand probably different model for available and selected, since available probably does not change over time, so one could reuse the same model always09:28
lukedirwalkerfor this you can just create to var properties in the dialog09:30
daitheflulukedirwalker: available tags can change : people can add/remove tags :)09:30
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lukedirwalkerbut the model will still persist. e.g. once removed/added you'll always want to see the same tags again, or not?09:31
daithefluah yep, sure09:32
lukedirwalkerso I think it makes sense to have one model for available and one for selection which is filled by the dialog09:35
daithefluthat's in fact one option I had in mind, let's give it a try then09:37
daithefluthanks for your help :)09:37
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Dr_Cainso I try to update to Brörnträsket, but it says that I don't have enough space available10:18
Dr_Cainand that I need 1.5 GB to rebalance10:18
Dr_Cainand I have 4.7GB available10:18
Dr_Cainwhich partition exactly needs to have the space availalbe?10:19
Nicd-have you checked btrfs space?10:19
Nicd-with `btrfs fi show` and `btrfs df /`10:19
Dr_CainERROR: unable get label Inappropriate ioctl for device10:20
Dr_CainLabel: 'sailfish'10:20
Dr_Cain Total devices 1 FS bytes used 8.95GiB devid    1 size 13.75GiB used 13.75GiB path /dev/mmcblk0p2810:20
Dr_Cainuh btrfs df doesn't work10:21
Dr_Cainoh10:21
Dr_CainI need to do it on a volume10:21
Dr_Cainthere we go10:22
Dr_Cain[root@Jolla nemo]# btrfs filesystem df /10:22
Dr_CainData, single: total=13.08GiB, used=8.77GiB10:22
Dr_CainSystem, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=4.00KiB10:22
Dr_CainSystem, single: total=4.00MiB, used=0.0010:22
Dr_CainMetadata, DUP: total=330.00MiB, used=182.87MiB10:22
Dr_CainMetadata, single: total=8.00MiB, used=0.0010:22
Dr_Cainso I don't get what the hell it's doing10:22
Dr_Caincan I do a manual balance?10:22
ponkymaybe use a pastebin10:22
Dr_Cainwell that's about it10:23
Dr_Cainanyway, ~9GB used10:23
Dr_Cainout of 1310:23
Dr_Cainso I don't really get why it wouldn't let me update? should I do a manual rebalance?10:23
Nicd-but the first says "size 13.75GiB used 13.75GiB"10:24
Dr_Cainhmm10:24
Dr_Cainthis is true10:24
Nicd-I don't pretend to be an expert at btrfs but I would rebalance manually. BUT first read the TJC page about it10:24
Dr_CainTJC?10:25
Nicd-https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/10:25
Nicd-it has many details about btrfs and the balancing10:25
Dr_Cainah nice10:25
* Dr_Cain reads10:25
Dr_Cain>Allocated: 100 %10:26
Dr_Cainwell then10:26
Nicd-I have 80%... should probably delete stuff10:27
Dr_Cainyeah10:27
Dr_Cainseems like android data is taking 2.5 GB10:27
Nicd-though I have to love how a phone is marketed as having 16 GB space and then has (albeit unofficial) instructions to never use more than 7 GB :D10:28
Dr_Cainhaha indeed10:28
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Dr_Cainokay, I deleted 2GB android cache10:32
Dr_Caindsub for android had cached a bunch of music10:32
Dr_Cainnow it seems to be running the optimization10:32
entilstskeeps needs to make the next migration move away from btrfs ;P10:33
Dr_Cainlol10:33
entilistr my ex complaining that her phone claims to be more full than it should be10:34
entilthe reason we broke up was not that I found her too un-geeky, but non-geeks should not need to know about that shit ;P10:34
entilI just hope sailfish 2.0 will leave btrfs out10:34
Dr_Cainin favour of what?10:35
Dr_Cainext4 or xfs?10:35
entilany damned thing10:35
entilI'm not geeky enough to care :D10:35
Dr_Cainreiserfs :P10:36
Nicd-zfs obviously10:36
entilext4 seems to work for me, but I wouldn't know what a telephone needs10:36
Nicd-with dedup10:36
Dr_CainNicd-: lol, yeah if we could get it with 16GB ECC ram, sure :)10:36
entiland the actual phone would be on 128GB ram with a fist-sized capacitor to make sure it never gets wiped10:37
Dr_Caingetting a lot of fun stuff in journalctl now10:39
Dr_Cainbunch of do_fsync_timeout10:39
Dr_CainI just want more ram in any case, 1GB is way too little, even with zram10:41
entilthere's not a lot, but some things like btrfs make me really really wish for widespread adoption or a new phone after the tablet where all this weirdness is got rid of10:42
entilless than a decade from now having your charger in on tuesday nights to get accurate free space reporting will be only a nightmare10:43
entilor memory10:43
Dr_Cainoh indeed10:43
entilthis is presupposing there is some decision to get rid of btrfs :D10:43
entiland I'd want to blame pulseaudio for not getting beeps when I enter a phone number to call! but I think that cancer's too widespread10:44
Dr_Cainsame with the whole systemd debacle10:44
Dr_Cainah well10:44
Yanielrumour has it that the tablet ships with ext410:45
Dr_Cainoh wow10:45
tortoisedochail ext410:45
anYcwas there a systemd debacle?10:45
* Dr_Cain would rather do xfs tbh, but ext4 is fine10:45
Dr_CainI don't like the fact that ext4 requires slow filesystem checks every x boots or days10:46
Dr_Cainthen again, at least they're faster than the ext3 checks :P10:46
entilit'd be nice if there was a way to do that online10:53
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Dr_Cainnice, it's updating now11:13
Dr_Cainthanks for the help guys :)11:13
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FlywaterHello, may i ask a question?11:48
Stskeepsalways11:48
Flywateri'm Chinese and a archlinux user, i want to know when will sailfish os come to China,thank you.11:49
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Flywaterwell, android is really boring, and no ios, and no windows phone, the ubuntu touch is unusable, so the only choice is sailfish os...11:53
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Flywatersailfish os use btrfs like meego or ext4 like android?11:59
sledgesjolla phone uses btrfs, jolla tablet uses ext411:59
Flywatersubvolum?12:00
Flywateri like btrfs's subvolum or ext4 on lvm.12:02
Flywateri don't like the partition solution of android, i think it is wasting rom space.12:05
Stskeepswe use subvolumes12:05
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Flywaterawesome, thank you for your answers.12:06
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taaemgcc 4.8 is now in the sdk O.o15:47
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urjamanyay, we have finally have a ... 2 years old gcc ;P15:48
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Dr_CainHmm, with Björnträsket some android apps think they're offline for some reason16:09
Dr_CainWhile others work16:09
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sunkanUpdated my SDK install (running on Debian Jessie) and now qtcreator does not start, possibly due to some OpenGL issue "QOpenGLShader: could not create shader", "Renderer failed shader compilation:". Any hints on getting it working?16:26
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SfietKonstantinWsunkan: try with -noload Welcome16:42
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sunkanSfietKonstantinW: Starts :)16:44
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sunkanAnd my app still build and work... Thanks for the '-noload Welcome' tip! I'll see if a reinstall of the AMD drivers might help with the GL issue later on.16:48
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olpeThanks kimmoli49 < Flywater> i'm Chinese and a archlinux user, i want to know when will sailfish os come to China,thank you.17:19
olpe14:53 < Flywater> well, android is really boring, and no ios, and no windows phone, the ubuntu touch is unusable, so the only choice  is sailfish os...17:19
olpeHmm. Ok thanks leszek I'll check if that fits my need49 < Flywater> i'm Chinese and a archlinux user, i want to know when will sailfish os come to China,thank you.17:19
olpe14:53 < Flywater> well, android is really boring, and no ios, and no windows phone, the ubuntu touch is unusable, so the only choice  is sailfish os...17:19
olpe14:59 <[A[A[A[A49 < Flywater> i'm Chinese and a archlinux user, i want to know when will sailfish os come to China,thank you.17:19
olpe14:53 < Flywater> well, android is really boring, and no ios, and no windows phone, the ubuntu touch is unusable, so the only choice  is sailfish os...17:19
olpesorrryyyy guys. My mouse was in my bag and it went crazy17:19
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sledgeswas cat with it too?17:20
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sunkanSfietKonstantinW: And actually re-installing proprietary AMD driver fixed the original issue. Probably some Debian update replaced some file that the proprietary driver had installed (which don't use package management).17:23
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SfietKonstantinWsunkan: strange17:25
sunkanSfietKonstantinW: What was strange was that the KDE GL desktop effects were working.. But glxinfo also complained a bit about GL so thought it would be best to try and reinstall.17:26
sunkanSfietKonstantinW: -noload Welcome was a good workaround though, could use anything I tried except the "Analyze" which I have not used with this little app anyway.17:27
SfietKonstantinWyes17:28
SfietKonstantinWanalyze will break too17:28
SfietKonstantinWqtquick 2.0 moduyles17:28
sunkanI see17:29
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rbnhi!18:01
Stskeepsm0018:02
rbnhow can i add certificates with björnträsket? just "trust anchor cert.pem"?18:02
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rbnmh18:08
rbnthat seemed to work for everything but email :/18:08
* Stskeeps doesn't actually know18:08
tbrthere is a certificate UI now?18:08
r0kk3rznot yet18:09
rbnat least it works with xmpp and the web18:09
Stskeepstbr: starting with a central cert storage18:09
Stskeepsas a start18:09
tbryeah, I think the browser was the odd one out so far18:10
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rbnwhat'll i do with mail now..18:12
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Stskeepsrbn: exchange or imap?18:15
rbnimap18:15
rbnplain old mail18:15
rbn;)18:15
Stskeepshmmm18:15
Stskeepsthen it's qmf18:15
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Stskeepsthat should really work18:15
rbnstrange18:15
Stskeepsxmpp is telepathy18:16
Stskeepsweb is gecko18:16
rbnboth worked after the trust anchor command18:16
Stskeepsqt shoould really work18:18
satmdmhm, there's an old unfixed bug in the mail client :o18:21
satmdit's imap folder list is sorted by creation date (=order sent by server) instead of correct hierarchy18:22
satmdif you create folders in the correct order, that's fine18:22
satmdbut you can reproduce it by first creating "INBOX/C" then "INBOX/D" then "INBOX/A" ... A should come first18:23
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rbnis there any other qt app i could cross-check the problem with?18:25
rbnha18:31
rbnadded it to openssl as before18:31
rbnnow it works18:31
rbnseems that the email app doesn't use the new cert toolkit18:31
Stskeepsfile a bug about that18:32
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rbni'll do that18:34
rbnbut first i'm gonna grab a bite :)18:34
rbnthanks anyways for the help :)18:34
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Dr_Cain ¨.. .18:58
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Dr_Cainoops18:58
Dr_Cainssh connection stalled18:58
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