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| Armadillo | hm | 06:24 |
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| Armadillo | my sdk can't connect to the mersdk virtual machine (server rejected key) | 06:26 |
| Armadillo | it's a brand new Fedora 22 box | 06:26 |
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| Armadillo | the key stored under /etc/ssh/authorized_keys/ in the vm ist correct and the path setup in the sshd_config inside the vm is correct, too | 06:28 |
| Armadillo | no idea why I can't connect to it :( | 06:28 |
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| Armadillo | I also can not connect manually with the ssh client, I'm always getting asked for a password | 06:31 |
| Armadillo | it seems like the private and public key don't match | 06:31 |
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| daitheflu | Hi | 07:29 |
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| Osanwe|phone | Hi! | 07:30 |
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| Osanwe|phone | I think about Unity3D for SailfishOS. Is I understand right that it's possible to use this tool because Sailfish is based on Linux factually? | 07:33 |
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| Osanwe|phone | In theory I can run desktop apps which use QML for UI... | 07:35 |
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| Dotti | Well, sailfish uses wayland instead of x11 and I don't think unity3d can export to linux on arm? | 07:37 |
| Osanwe|phone | I don't know. It's just an idea. But Android, for example, based on Linux Kernel and Unity3D works on it. | 07:38 |
| Osanwe|phone | I don't know Unity3D but want to learn this tool and think about creating game for SailfishOS. | 07:39 |
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| Nicd- | sailfish is not based on linux, it is a linux system | 07:40 |
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| Osanwe|phone | Nicd-: I meant this :) | 07:41 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | hi daitheflu :) | 08:41 |
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| Vae_DuckZ | hello, my sister went to north america with the jolla phone I gave her as a gift, but she says only 2G works there | 08:52 |
| Vae_DuckZ | I looked on ddg a bit yesterday and found that american network is not really supported, but I don't understand if switching provider can help | 08:53 |
| Vae_DuckZ | or is she stuck with using 2G only? | 08:53 |
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| daitheflu | hi SfietKonstantinW :) | 08:59 |
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| daitheflu | sorry for the late reply, I'm at work (and I sometimes have to actually work ^^) | 09:00 |
| lainwir3d | "sometimes" :P | 09:00 |
| daitheflu | yes, yes, sometimes :P | 09:01 |
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| tortoisedoc | soo | 10:21 |
| tortoisedoc | when to expect sf 2.0 ea release? | 10:21 |
| Nicd- | next week | 10:22 |
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| Nicd- | according to finnish news | 10:22 |
| tortoisedoc | nice | 10:22 |
| tortoisedoc | Nicd- which news | 10:22 |
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| Nicd- | http://www.tivi.fi/Kaikki_uutiset/sailfish-2-0-valmistuu-ensimmaisille-kayttajille-saatavilla-maanantaina-3482017 | 10:23 |
| tortoisedoc | Nicd : how comes you have it already :P | 10:23 |
| tortoisedoc | and I dont :D | 10:24 |
| Nicd- | ? | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | https://twitter.com/nieldk/status/639028562348130304?s=09 | 10:24 |
| Nicd- | that's not me | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | whoops :D | 10:24 |
| tortoisedoc | sorry | 10:24 |
| Vae_DuckZ | anybody read my question from earlier this morning? | 10:25 |
| coderus | Vae_DuckZ: america doesnt have normal 3G | 10:26 |
| TemeV | Vae_DuckZ: they use different frequencies there and Jolla doesn't support them | 10:26 |
| Vae_DuckZ | no normal provider at all? | 10:27 |
| TemeV | It is "normal" just on a different frequency | 10:28 |
| coderus | Vae_DuckZ: no normal NETWORK at all | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | TemeV : might be more of a licensing problem rather than a frequency one | 10:28 |
| Vae_DuckZ | I feel bad now knowing that my sis is stuck with 2G | 10:28 |
| Vae_DuckZ | :( | 10:28 |
| TemeV | tortoisedoc: nope, hw for those frequencies is missing | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | wow | 10:28 |
| TemeV | afaik | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | the amazenes of 3/5G | 10:28 |
| tortoisedoc | 4g that is :P | 10:29 |
| tortoisedoc | so the receivers are hw-coded to work on certain bands? that sounds unlikely | 10:29 |
| TemeV | well, it sounds really likely if you know how rf receiver works | 10:29 |
| TemeV | it needs a trasceiver for each frequency it uses | 10:30 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah, guess you cant pack one for each frequency in a mobile phone.. | 10:30 |
| TemeV | you can | 10:30 |
| TemeV | and there is phones that do that | 10:31 |
| TemeV | but it costs money of course | 10:31 |
| coderus | what a torrent :D https://thepiratebay.la/torrent/11635275/Jolla_Factory_Image_to_Reflash_it | 10:31 |
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| tortoisedoc | lolz | 10:31 |
| tortoisedoc | its more sad that jolla themselves are not able to provide such an image | 10:31 |
| tortoisedoc | (not because they would not be able to, but because they can't I suppose) | 10:32 |
| TemeV | and because Jolla obviously had no intention to pay fcc etc blood monies to get to US market, it doesn't make much sense to pack the transceivers for those frequencies | 10:32 |
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| Vae_DuckZ | it still sucks for europeans living or traveling there | 10:35 |
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| tortoisedoc | I wonder | 10:43 |
| tortoisedoc | if a oth transceiver could be made :D | 10:44 |
| TemeV | with i2c, nope | 10:44 |
| TemeV | well, in theory yes, but it wouldn't be any faster than 2G | 10:45 |
| tortoisedoc | too slow? | 10:45 |
| TemeV | yeah | 10:45 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 10:45 |
| tortoisedoc | yea well | 10:45 |
| tortoisedoc | 400kb for voice should be ok | 10:45 |
| tortoisedoc | but 2g is good enough for that already | 10:46 |
| Vae_DuckZ | :/ | 10:48 |
| Vae_DuckZ | jolla really needs to pull out new hardware imo | 10:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | soon | 10:49 |
| coderus | Vae_DuckZ: jolla now is SW as far i understand | 10:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | intex | 10:49 |
| Vae_DuckZ | I hope not, I liked the jolla design | 10:50 |
| TemeV | there should be some "Jolla devices" company that could introduce a new phone | 10:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Vae_DuckZ: Jolla tablet :) | 10:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | well, for a company of about 100 people, I prefer that they do one thing well | 10:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | rather than two things half baked | 10:50 |
| * Vae_DuckZ is waiting to receive it... soon! very soon! :) | 10:51 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | Jolla 1 HW is just average | 10:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and SW have bugs | 10:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | what about just fixing bugs, and let other people (intex) do the hw ? | 10:51 |
| TemeV | well, basically it is already "other people" that do the hw | 10:52 |
| TemeV | I mean, it is not the sw guyes that make hw and vice versa | 10:52 |
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| kimmoli | there is the spinoff jolla-mobile to make hw for sailfish... like watches and cars and ... | 10:55 |
| TemeV | Car with Sailfish, I'd buy that | 10:56 |
| urjaman | watch with sailfish'd be .... ????? | 10:57 |
| kimmoli | dunno. source: https://together.jolla.com/question/106410/rumors-jollas-upcoming-non-phone-device-a-smartwatch/ | 10:58 |
| kimmoli | :P | 10:58 |
| tbr | smartwatches are so last year. needs to be IoT, maybe a toilet? | 10:59 |
| tortoisedoc | tbr : rpi2 toilet? :D | 10:59 |
| tortoisedoc | SMARTtoilet? | 11:00 |
| TemeV | Toilet with Sailfish! I'd buy... wait what? | 11:00 |
| tbr | sh*t is the only thing I'd use a rpi for | 11:00 |
| tortoisedoc | tbr : whats the gut against rpi | 11:00 |
| tbr | though twitter.com/iotoilets ran from a BeagleBoneBlack | 11:00 |
| tortoisedoc | :P | 11:00 |
| tortoisedoc | ah | 11:00 |
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| tortoisedoc | beaglebone is waaay to expensive | 11:01 |
| tortoisedoc | ;) | 11:01 |
| tbr | need to rebuild it based on one of my 6LoWPAN microcontrollers | 11:01 |
| tbr | those stamp sized things were $5.70 a pop from .cn | 11:02 |
| tortoisedoc | rpi2 is much better in specs and cheaper no? | 11:02 |
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| tbr | tortoisedoc: it also won't boot without a big binary blob, last time I checked. | 11:06 |
| tortoisedoc | tbr : which binary block? I thought you can drop whatever on it? | 11:07 |
| tbr | tortoisedoc: the boot loader needs to boot the VC4 first before it can boot the ARM core(s). that bootloader was still closed source last time I checked. | 11:08 |
| tortoisedoc | tbr : ah ok i see | 11:09 |
| kimmoli | smartsh*t | 11:10 |
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| RandomRant | Are there any recent devices that use sailfish os? | 11:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | RandomRant: the jolla tablet | 11:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | quite a few Android "HADK" devices | 11:34 |
| Wnt | RandomRant: only device tha is officially supported and which you can buy right now is the Jolla phone | 11:34 |
| Wnt | the tablet you can pre-order | 11:34 |
| Wnt | and then there are unnofficial ports which you can see from this table: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 11:35 |
| RandomRant | :-S i pray for yolla that they survive the next year(s) without a new flagship | 11:35 |
| lukedirtwalker | well tablet is currently the flagship | 11:36 |
| RandomRant | Has sailfish any advantages over cyanogen, in terms of privacy and security? | 11:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | RandomRant: hard to say | 11:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | privacy and security is so hard to guarantee these dahys | 11:37 |
| Wnt | Jolla's Antri Saarnio has recently said "We might have something else coming up for Jolla fans." http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/07/18/jolla-licences-sailfish-os-2-0/ | 11:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | there is an initiative inside Jolla to push for more security | 11:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but nothing concrete yet | 11:37 |
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| Vae_DuckZ | hm this intex thing, I don't want to be negative, but my feeling is it's some cheap phone maker for the indian market | 12:43 |
| Vae_DuckZ | like firefoxos, it's cool if you upgrade from a nokia 3310 but you bring it to europe and ppl are like meh it's crap | 12:44 |
| daitheflu | I'm mostly concerned about availability in Europe :/ | 12:45 |
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| Vae_DuckZ | I'm sure you will find it on ebay, like firefox os, tanto cuore, pasta and all the "local" products | 12:46 |
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| daitheflu | Vae_DuckZ: which would probably mean no warranty :/ | 12:47 |
| Vae_DuckZ | most ppl in here have enabled devmode and installed stuff from open repos, which has likely voided their warranty anyways | 12:48 |
| pykape | warranty or not, what I would like to see is a SFOS phone with enough RAM | 12:48 |
| pykape | even be it from some cheap phone maker | 12:49 |
| pykape | SFOS is so awesome in itself but the devices are not so good | 12:49 |
| pykape | well other specs am fine with but not the RAM, that we need more | 12:49 |
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| Salzi | hi | 19:25 |
| Salzi | could pls someone tell me why this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e326ccbeb14b92e85958 ends in a seg fault :-/ | 19:26 |
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| flux | salzi, debugger? core dumps? | 19:28 |
| Salzi | it crashes after the slot | 19:29 |
| flux | given the clip it stands to reason that one of the pointers somewhere is null, when assumed not to be. but, who knows :) | 19:29 |
| lukedirtwalker | Salzi: on a side note: it seems a bit weird to connect the networkmanager signal to its factory | 19:29 |
| Salzi | it is more ore less copied from here: http://www.it-digin.com/blog/?cat=19 | 19:30 |
| lukedirtwalker | Salzi: I assume you entered a real address for the image? | 19:34 |
| Salzi | yes | 19:34 |
| Salzi | from my private server with a self signed cert | 19:34 |
| Salzi | the error QList contains two items. Both QScopedPointer<QSslErrorPrivate, QScopedPointerDeleter<QSslErrorPrivate> > | 19:36 |
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| coderus | Salzi: this is a factory | 19:51 |
| coderus | you should return CUSTOM QNAM, you should not handle QNAM inside factory | 19:52 |
| coderus | you should create MyNetworkAccessManager class | 19:52 |
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| coderus | handle ssl errors inside it | 19:52 |
| coderus | and your factory::create should just create an instance of this MyNetworkAccessManager | 19:52 |
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| Salzi | hmm I added a few qDebug outputs. And the errors and also the reply seems correct to me :-/ | 19:57 |
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| Salzi | coderus: what does that change exept of other coding style? | 19:58 |
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| coderus | Salzi: everything, no? | 19:59 |
| coderus | you just do not understand what is factory | 19:59 |
| coderus | and that is your problem | 19:59 |
| Salzi | I see the point to connect the Signal and Slot where I create the factory. But the values for the slot and the slot it self doens't change | 20:00 |
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| coderus | factory ONLY return INSTANCE of your CUSTOM QNetworkAccessManager | 20:00 |
| coderus | it CANT have ANY signals/slots | 20:00 |
| coderus | because IT'S A F*NG FACTORY! | 20:00 |
| coderus | just do it right please and see how well it will work after | 20:01 |
| Salzi | I have to ask that ... is it technically not allowed to have signal/slots in the factory or are you just taking about gamma? | 20:02 |
| coderus | technically | 20:03 |
| coderus | because IT'S A F*NG FACTORY! | 20:03 |
| coderus | facory only produce items | 20:03 |
| aivot-on | example shit | 20:03 |
| aivot-on | oops sorry | 20:03 |
| coderus | factory doesnt watch how item works | 20:03 |
| r0kk3rz | factory is a design pattern, not a law of programming though :P | 20:05 |
| coderus | anyway, i said enough | 20:05 |
| Salzi | r0kk3rz: thats what I mean :-X | 20:06 |
| r0kk3rz | i thought so Salzi, you should read up on design patterns though | 20:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | they are useful constructs | 20:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | also read up on anti-patterns whilst you're at it | 20:09 |
| r0kk3rz | ie. common design mistakes people make | 20:09 |
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