Monday, 2015-09-28

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saberHello02:55
saberneed help about compiling the boost c++ library for Jolla02:55
saberthis is the repository https://github.com/boostorg/boost02:55
saberand I found that I cannot git clone boost/tools/02:56
saberIt is grey in color and not accessible and make compiling failed because of missing files, how to solve it?02:57
[ol]git help submodule03:02
saberhttps://github.com/boostorg/boost/tree/master/tools03:04
saberno, it is in grey color03:04
sabercannot access it03:04
saberWhat I used is git clone --recursive git@github.com:boostorg/boost.git modular-boost >clone.log03:04
[ol]You can always do "git help submodule".03:05
saberyup03:05
[ol]And learn from the result that you have to do "git sobmodule init".03:06
[ol]http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules03:08
[ol]This is more detailed description of submodules.03:08
[ol]Yes, "git clone --recursive" will init submodules for you automatically.03:10
saberbut still03:17
saberstill that folder is empty lol03:17
saberthis one boost\tools\build03:17
saberthat should contain some files03:17
saberhttps://github.com/boostorg/boost/tree/master/tools03:20
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Aciidsaber: could be that your submodule config missing?03:27
saberhttps://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/wiki/TryModBoost#InstallingModularBoost03:30
saberI follow this guid03:30
saberguide03:30
sabergit clone --recursive git@github.com:boostorg/boost.git modular-boost >clone.log03:30
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saberI don't know if my submodule is missing03:30
saberbut in web page ui, I cannot access those module too03:31
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Aciidhttps://github.com/boostorg/boost/blob/master/.gitmodules04:09
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tortoisedoccoderus your launcher patch is kewl05:02
tortoisedocbut 10 icons on a row are a bit too much :D05:02
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tortoisedocgrrrr05:42
tortoisedocwhy on earth is the emulator mode not working on windows?05:43
Armadillo?05:44
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tortoisedocArmadillo : emulator mode switch from qtcreator in latest sdk05:52
tortoisedocis disabled by default on win705:52
tortoisedoc(see mailing list)05:52
tortoisedocand worser, it cannot be enabled :/05:52
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Armadillohm05:55
* Armadillo reads the mailing list :P05:56
tortoisedocIm wondering if it could be related to resolutions or somethin05:56
tortoisedoc(as in screen resolutions)05:56
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tortoisedocits just perfect support for developers to first provide tools at the last minute, which then turn out not to be too solid06:17
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Armadillohm yes, that's annoying06:24
beautyffhello i want to study sailfishos code for make some app,where can i found the study 'website06:25
Armadilloalready downloaded the sdk?06:25
Armadilloyou can start with the URL which is mentioned in the channel's topic: https://sailfishos.org/develop/06:27
Armadillotortoisedoc aside from the problems with the sdk, I found some enhancements on the dev documentation, which are quite nice, e.g. the icon reference06:28
beautyffyeap this website https://sailfishos.org/develop/ is browsed.06:29
tortoisedocArmadillo yea that something that was pending, its good to see some progress there :)06:29
beautyffhave anther?06:29
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Armadillohm no, I started to play with the sdk to get an overview06:32
Armadilloqml is quite easy if you already developed things with other frameworks/languages06:33
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beautyffwow qml is nice code06:36
tortoisedocalso enhancements to documentation is  useless if the tools given are not working properly :/06:39
beautyff@tor you are right06:39
beautyffstudy qml finish and then06:41
Armadillowhat do you want to know?06:43
Armadillotortoisedoc true, on my Fedora machine here at work it works wuite fine, haven't tested it on Win7 at home yet06:43
Armadillo*quite06:44
tortoisedocyeah that's then the usually reason why things do not work06:44
tortoisedoc"ah its on windows; but on linux it works just fine"06:44
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tortoisedockind of like06:44
tortoisedoc"sorry, your problem dude"06:44
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tortoisedoc:|06:44
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tortoisedocits like their support's competence ends where linux ends; well the world is unfortunately not over where the ocean begins...06:48
tortoisedoc[/FLAME:off]06:48
beautyffsomethink complex than qml06:49
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Armadillotry c++ nad Qt afterwards06:50
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Armadilloshould be complex enough^^06:50
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Armadillotortoisedoc well maybe it's related to Win7 only and they tested on Win8/10 or so :-/06:53
tortoisedocArmadillo : that's possible, although unlikely06:54
Armadilloyou tested Virtualbox 4.3.latest, didn't you?06:54
ArmadilloI had strange behaviours with older Virtualbox versions in the past06:54
tortoisedoc4.3.2206:55
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Armadillohm06:55
tortoisedoci would not even be that upset if at least i could try to switch mode; but no, its disabled by default06:55
Armadillotry upgrading to 4.3.3006:55
tortoisedocand no way to find out why06:55
tortoisedocno log06:55
tortoisedocno errors06:55
tortoisedocno source :D06:55
Armadillo:-/06:55
tortoisedochm maybe06:55
tortoisedocthey used to have some parts of the qtcreator opensourced06:56
tortoisedoci guess they have to06:56
beautyfftolk sailfishos Official06:56
Stskeepzafaik it's open source06:57
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kimmoli4.3.26 working here with win7 just fine06:57
kimmolivirtualbox taht is06:57
Stskeepzhttps://github.com/sailfish-sdk06:57
tortoisedocStskeepz : thanks06:57
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Armadillo^^06:58
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tortoisedocok ill try with vb 4.3.26 then06:59
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daithefluHi07:13
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zGrrmoin :)09:55
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coderustortoisedoc: it have a lot of settings :)10:33
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tortoisedoclolz10:45
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Vae_DuckZhi, is the developer of TAO Translator around on this channel?10:50
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mlatugood afternoon, anyone knows why the carousel needs to hog the flick gesture?17:04
SfietKonstantinWmlatu: what do youmean ?17:06
mlatuin sailfishos2, horizontal swipes are already used for the carousel, so why does it also have to use the flick gesture?17:08
mlatu(uh, swipes are at the screen edges, flicks in the screen right?)17:08
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coderuswell, i still don't understand your question :D17:10
urjamanas i see it the flicks (mid-screen) are used to roll the carousel and edge-swipes to transition to home/events17:10
urjamanfrom other screens17:10
urjamani still dont know what your issue is17:10
urjaman(does it eat the mid screen flicks always or something?)17:10
coderusprobably he want old coveractions back17:10
mlatucoderus indeed.17:10
coderusmlatu: because sailfishos2 is for a lot of devices with different screens17:11
mlatuuh are there devices with edge-free-screens?17:12
mlatui remember someone at jolla saying they dont want their users clicking on tiny buttons... and now this.17:12
coderusand what gestures you can use on phone can be not suitable on tablets17:12
coderusand so on17:12
mlatualso i remember people chastising app developers for using buttons and that "they should do it the sailfishos way".17:14
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r0kk3rzmlatu: sure. but the whole redesign is kinda about making sailfishos a little more mainstream17:16
r0kk3rzthe previous ui was a bit of a culture shock17:16
merlin1991but a nice one ...17:18
mlatusure, but once you got used to it, it was great... and (at least for me) getting used to it was pretty easy. even after 4 years on android. to the point that when i grab an android phone at first i tap on its dark screen to wake it up... and try to swipe apps away... and so on and so forth. i felt really comfy in sailfishos1. sfos2 is feeling comfy too, but i really really loved the gesture based cover actions.17:20
mlatuand without them, something's missing for me17:21
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mlatujust now i noticed that the email client is missing the "new mail" cover action.. which makes me realize that i almost never used it. though i almost never write an email using my jolla, because i always have a pc around17:31
ttyp0likewise, I mostly only ever just reply to a mail on the phone if something17:31
mlatuor share a photo via email...17:32
ttyp0and even then only if I can reply with like 1-2 sentences17:32
ttyp0VKBs are a pain in the ass17:32
ttyp0all of them, regardless of phone/tablet maker or model17:32
ttyp0my typo rate goes up like 1000% on VKBs17:32
mlatui only know a single good one. messagease17:32
mlatuit takes some time getting used to it, but once you got it...17:33
ttyp0hmm, don't know that one17:35
mlatuused it on android17:36
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mlatuttyp0 you get a 3*3 button matrix with the 9 most used chars for your language, and if you drag across those buttons you get the other chars. so its kinda like 3*3 tiny gesturebased joysticks... sort of17:38
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ttyp0heh17:41
ttyp0interesting17:41
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mlatui guess the main reason why i'm frustrated about this "carousel hogs horizontal flicks"-business is that on together there is somebody saying he "understands why this had to be changed" and mentions the partner space, which i dont get, whats it to do with the flick gesture if you can always swipe to get there?17:47
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mlatualso about tablets: so far i never had one, but i dont think it is very comfy using it with one hand only (because of the big screen). so flicking mid-screen vs swiping to get to the partner space... the convenience gained from that is imo negligible. and trading gesture based coveractions for this tiny amount of convenience... i dont want to say its dumb, but i frankly dont know how to call it otherwise.17:50
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mlatui'll try to go and do something productive now and not bother so much about the coveractions17:53
Armadillotortoisedoc have you already found a solution for the emulator mode problem?17:58
ArmadilloWin7, VB4.3.30 doesn't work here, too17:58
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coderussailfish doesnt detects nokia wh-102 headset button :(18:49
Stskeepsn9 or lumia style?18:50
Stskeepsie apple or nokia style headphone18:50
attahWell.. it says it fits N8, N97 among others.. so i'd be surprised if the sound even is half-way ok18:53
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Stskeepsso not the right headphone type18:54
Ezkohas anyone used recovery mode? do i really need to do it on a laptop since my desktop doesn't show RNDIS under other devices18:54
StskeepsEzko: what windows version?18:54
Ezko718:54
Ezkoi have a laptop but no good place to use it at home18:56
attahcoderus: you need this (or similar) http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRRS-3-5mm-1-8-Headphone-Converter-Adapter-for-iPhone-Apple-to-Nokia-Audio-Port-/221618291770?hash=item33997ac43a18:57
attahground and mic are swapped, beacuse fruit18:58
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EzkoStskeeps: any ideas?19:01
r0kk3rzEzko: rndis on 7 should be fine19:01
StskeepsEzko: finding the together post..19:02
StskeepsEzko: https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/ , "windows 7"19:02
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Ezkoah19:04
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Ezkohmmh, putty says null :/19:07
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Ezkocommand line telnet works however19:08
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r0kk3rzyeah its telnet over rndis19:09
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Ezkothanks Stskeeps19:18
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coderusattah: well no i dont, just found old headset in desk :)19:28
attahcoderus: okay, good.. but if you want to use that particular one..19:28
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m4g0ghello21:38
m4g0gwhat is proper way to show messages (like messagebox)? For example: invalid password. It's better to create my own notification popup or use something embeded in sailfishos?21:40
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coderusproper is status line without popups21:43
coderusspinning circle and then error message in this place21:43
m4g0gon busyindicato place&21:46
m4g0g?21:46
m4g0gok. Thx21:46
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coderusLauncher combined patch v0.2.2 bugs fixed :)23:56
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