Wednesday, 2015-09-30

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tortoisedochuihui04:41
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tortoisedocmartyone_ : is the emulator mode tied to missing extradata in vbox configuration?04:42
tortoisedoc(the emulator mode issue, that is)04:42
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martyone_tortoisedoc: the issue is not that the extradata is missing but that the windows lineend was not treated properly in our Qt Creator code and so parsing of the extradata failed04:44
tortoisedocmartyone_ : hail extra lineend eh :D04:45
tortoisedoccan I set the property somehow manually?04:45
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tortoisedoc(with correct lineends?)04:45
tortoisedocthrough vboxmanage?04:45
martyone_tortoisedoc: I tried it, unfortunately vbox is too clever and always produces "the right" lineends :)04:46
tortoisedocack04:46
tortoisedochmm04:46
tortoisedochow did the problem "fix itself" then?04:46
tortoisedoc(i recally you mentioning this yesterday=04:46
tortoisedoc)04:46
martyone_yeah, this was false message from my side - I was so excited using MS Windows that I didn't notice I had compiled it with my fix in place :)04:48
tortoisedoc:D:D04:48
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tortoisedocthat happens when you work with windows lol04:48
tortoisedocbut thanks for looking into this04:49
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martyone_it was very productive day for me :)04:49
tortoisedoci guess ill wait for the next release then04:49
tortoisedocand just send the app as-is to harbour :P04:49
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tortoisedocand crossing fingers04:49
martyone_:)04:49
tortoisedochmm or04:50
tortoisedocis the specific mer code in a plugin?04:50
tortoisedoci could give it a shot and try to recompile it04:50
* tortoisedoc goes and checks github04:51
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martyone_tortoisedoc: sure, it's already merged in https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sailfish-qtcreator04:52
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lachs0ruh, so after wasting another three hours fixing a broken btrfs (in the end I had to pull an image to my desktop and work it with newer btrfsprogs etc. because everything on the phone was utterly useless), has anyone else attempted to switch to a different filesystem on the jolla phone?10:47
lachs0ror should I play it safe and just put whichever fs I’m going to try in a file that resides on the usual btrfs just to prevent it from running out of metadata space10:47
lachs0rbecause it really isn’t usable on small storage at all with that ancient kernel (qualcomm is officially my worst enemy now)10:49
taaemlachs0r: ask Stskeeps10:52
leszeklachs0r: some features depend on btrfs and there is a service running in the background that should clean the metadata stuff (rebalancing). So I would not advise switching the fs10:52
stephglachs0r: sdcard?10:52
lachs0rI would assume at least the system update/package management would go haywire the moment I tried to use it on something not btrfs10:52
stephgand yeah things can get tight on the mmc10:52
stephglachs0r: you'll break an awful lot if you change it10:53
leszekcoderus: ping. Android Notifications is gpl or some other license that allows me to use some code stuff ? I really like the desktopfilemodelplugin and want to use it in my app10:53
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lachs0rso okay, I’m going to leave it btrfs, but going to switch my $HOME to something more stable10:53
stephglachs0r: btrfs is how the factory reset works10:53
lachs0ryes, I’m aware10:53
stephgeven taht won't work10:53
lachs0r(that too was useless in my case)10:53
stephghow many/how big files are you talking about10:53
stephg(also, sdcard!) :P10:53
lachs0rwell, I assume the mail client just accumulated stuff10:54
lachs0rbecause I’m not actively storing much on the device10:54
leszeklachs0r: 1 rule you have to basically keep is never ever let a btrfs volume run full or all hell will break loose10:54
lachs0rI know10:54
lachs0rI’m really not putting a lot of data on the internal storage10:55
leszekI have btrfs now running for 3 or 4 years here on several machines without a major hickup10:55
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lachs0rI *am* using an SD card for anything I can10:55
leszekonly following that one rule10:55
zGrrmoin :)10:55
lachs0rwell, typically you have more than ~14 GiB for btrfs though10:55
lachs0rthat’s not the case on this phone10:55
lachs0rhence it’s very prone to failure10:56
lachs0rcatastrophic failure at that. here it ran out of metadata space, tried to rebalance and something exploded in the process10:56
lachs0rwhich meant it couldn’t be mounted anymore10:56
lachs0rso no factory reset either10:57
lachs0rI mean, snapshots are nice feature to advertise, but so far they’ve been utterly useless to me every time I wanted to use them10:57
TemeVsnapshots are nice for some quick and dirty testing10:58
TemeVeasy to roll back everything10:59
TemeVor e.g. beta testing some distro10:59
lachs0ryeah, they’re nice if they actually work10:59
TemeVthey seem to work for something like that. I wouldn't trust them as backups though, at least with btrfs, at least with the version Jolla ships with :)11:00
stephgsnapshots aren't backups11:01
* stephg readies the clue-by-four ;)11:01
TemeVwell, of course not real backups because they are on the same device11:02
urjamani ended up wiping my btrfs one day (and made a new fs, had a backup though so not too painful, did write a text on that though, not for non-nerds...) and after that i've just set/kept a recent working system as the "factory" snapshot and no other snapshots, gives a few GB of space by this point too..11:02
urjaman(compared to the real factory ancient OS)11:02
urjamanthat'd take many a time to update from etc11:02
lachs0rthe bottom line is that I really wish companies selling ARM SoCs would just stop playing IP wars and get some standards in there11:03
lachs0rqualcomm is the reason why I have ancient btrfs on my phone and qualcomm is the reason why I can’t simply acquire a factory image without asking people to copy theirs11:04
urjamanwell i guess they're more like avoiding potential IP wars (if they showed their stuff, various IP violations would be much easier to spot...)11:05
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lachs0rthe point I’m trying to make is that the ARM ecosystem seems to suffer greatly from platform fragmentation and each company trying to have the cake and eat it too11:07
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urjamanno license to even distribute binaries is really assholey behaviour though (just my opinion)11:07
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lachs0rand people writing better drivers in their free time is just a sad demonstration of their lack of commitment to delivering quality products11:11
urjaman"want a factory image for your open source phone? there might be an illegal torrent out there somewhere"...11:12
lachs0rit’s like they don’t have to care because they’re the only ones even shipping a real, physical product in their market niche11:12
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lachs0rthat’s a regrettable state of affairs, and as much as I dislike a certain de-facto processor monopoly, I’m glad the tablet doesn’t ship with that crap11:14
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coderusleszek: you can use any component in your application if not doing same as source application :)11:22
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coderusmeans if you not doing another android notifications app you can use it with no problems :)11:23
leszekok thanks for clearification :)11:23
stephg\o/ new community meeting next week11:29
coderusoo11:29
coderuswhere is agenda11:29
stephgcoderus: check the mailing list11:30
stephgthe agenda is in tjc11:30
stephg(I think?)11:30
tortoisedocoho!11:35
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jfred:D12:01
* jfred needs to subscribe to the mailing list12:01
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coderusoh yeah12:29
lainwir3dyeah12:32
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coderusyeah!12:34
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anYcor use nntp12:39
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a-andreyevHello! Developer question: is it possible to access paired and connected to Jolla bluetooth device as OS dev file? (/dev/rfcomm0 or something similar)18:49
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m4g0ghi19:22
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m4g0gI register my c++ class with qmlregistertype. Can I autoconnect to signal from this c++ class in it qml representation, like cpp: signals: void error(); qml: class { onError: {} } ?19:23
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kimmoliyes, that it is how it goes19:27
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m4g0ghm, but I doesn't got this signal in main qml class19:30
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kimmoliemit error(); and you dont get it to onError: in qml?19:32
m4g0gok, I found error. Is there a way how I can use qml item created in base qml from others qmls?19:32
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kimmoligive it an id?19:33
kimmoliQtCreator does not know (iirc) to autocomplete it19:33
m4g0gwow, it works. Thx!19:34
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coderuswho is trying to develop community  android support here? i have drunkdebugger email for you, ping me in private21:00
lukedirtwalkercoderus: I think you should also ask in #sailfishos-porters21:04
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abertschiping lukedirtwalker21:21
lukedirtwalkerabertschi: pong21:21
abertschiIs there anything in particular I should work on next?21:21
lukedirtwalkerdon't know21:22
lukedirtwalkerwhatever you like21:22
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BBLobsterHi, can someone explain me how to add element in custom QAbstractListModel? I tried to call beginInsertRows and then just append data in my container in model, but with no success22:07
BBLobsterMay be some one have simple example how to work with it22:07
lukedirtwalkerBBLobster: have you called endInsertRows as well?22:09
BBLobsteryes, i have22:10
lukedirtwalkerBBLobster: show what you have then we can better help22:10
lukedirtwalkerBBLobster: or check this tutorial https://sailfishos.org/develop/tutorials/combining-c-with-qml/22:11
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_inte_hello someone still awake?22:12
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Yanielno22:15
YanielI'm  chatting in my sleep22:15
BBLobsterlukedirtwalker: https://gist.github.com/rusphantom/9da77b58ed57f7a9b8ed22:17
BBLobsterthere is my code22:17
BBLobsterI call appendDialogs with params Storage and how many elements take from storage22:18
BBLobsterlooks like I confused with indexes somewhere22:18
_inte_is anybody familiar with the control settings for the oom?22:21
_inte_i quite dont get it from http://lwn.net/Articles/317814/22:21
_inte_i just want to set it less radical22:21
_inte_i dont mind a little lag22:21
_inte_i actually rather prefer some lagging to having all my background processes shut down all the time22:22
lukedirtwalkerBBLobster: I don't see anything wron in this code22:22
lukedirtwalkerBBLobster: does it not show anything at all or just not updating?22:24
BBLobsterI see empty spaces in my scroll view22:25
BBLobsterI will show22:25
BBLobsterhttp://tinypic.com/r/28u5mw3/822:25
BBLobsterThis empty space appears only after appending additional elements22:26
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coderuswhat is your model type?22:30
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BBLobstermodel type? You mean from which class I inherited?22:49
BBLobsterQAbstractListModel22:49
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coderusyou calling wrong beginInsert range22:52
coderusor doing som other weird things22:52
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BBLobstercoderus: well, I call beginInsert like it said in documentation - I want to add elements to the end, so I call function with params: last_idx+1, last_idx+count23:00
BBLobsterI have not implemented InsertRow function - may be it is a reason?23:01
BBLobsterI just cannot understand what 'resizable data structures' mean in documentation23:02
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coderusno23:42
coderuslen, len+count23:42
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