Monday, 2016-01-04

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bluszcz_lovely, just discovered that my app translations does not work anymore, I checked if rpm contains translations/harbour-veggiesailor-es.ts, it does,  wth?00:25
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bluszcz_actually, how to use translations in python apps correctly?00:39
bluszcz_translating qml content?00:39
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bluszcz_ QLocale::system().name(); returns C01:41
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kimmolibluszcz_: running from console? i.e. not starting from app icon?06:38
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zGrrmoin :)09:59
Stskeepsgood morning09:59
zGrrhi :) happy new year10:00
Stskeepsthanks10:00
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bigdothello12:39
bigdothi everyone, anybody knows what happened with the sailfish project ? i see everything just stopped in september or something, with no official announcement on the website12:39
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bigdot@all12:39
Stskeepsbigdot: well, it's complex.. hang on12:39
tbrcheck the blog12:39
StskeepsIn November 2015, Jolla had to lay off half of its employees due to financial problems.  ; and yeah, blog.jolla.com12:40
Stskeepsbut the lights are very much still on12:40
Stskeepsso it's not dead12:40
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tbralso they got funding again and took back some of their employees12:40
bigdotdam, how did i miss that blog link12:40
bigdotso the shop is still on and they ship phones ?12:41
Stskeepsi -think- so but wouldn't be surprised if it's slowly running out of stock12:41
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Hartzisooner or later they will be out of stock :P It seems not yet.12:42
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daithefluHi !13:14
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citylight2so, in case anyone has a development environment up, and tried to build VLC 3.0 from source , please let me know13:32
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coderusobs? :D13:42
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aimlesshi all, I wanna wirte my first app for SailfishOS and am struggeling with the c++ QML interaction. For me it is not clear if I have always to create a new model each time I wanna transfer data from c++ to QML or if there is a way to use a standard Qt model such as e.g. the QStringListModel?15:27
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daithefluaimless: if the standard Qt model fits your needs, just use it15:33
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kimmolidepends on your data15:39
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aimlessdaitheflu: well, but how can I then embed the standard Qt model in the c++ code? As far as I understood is the model actually a data structure that is directly represented on the UI by means of the QML code and as soon as I modify the content of the model, the UI will be updated.  But how do I point to a model-object if I use a std Qt model? there is no ID or s.th. like that as it is available (the name such as "DemoModel") if I15:50
daithefluaimless: you should probably read that page carefully : http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html :)15:51
daithefluaimless: basically, you can either register your model as a new Type, available in QML15:52
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daithefluor make your instance available in QML15:52
daitheflufirst solution : http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-definetypes.html15:53
aimlesscool, ok. I just went through the SailfishOS tut and was not sure, if all the common QML stuff is also applicable for SailfishOS.15:53
daitheflusecond one : http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-contextproperties.html15:53
daithefluI guess it is15:53
daithefluyou just have to stick with SFOS components15:54
aimlessok.15:54
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aimlessdaitheflu: ok, I'll go through the documentation tonight (esp. the first link you posted). If then there are still open obscurities, I'll come back to you again. But for the moment, thanks for your help.16:06
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daithefluaimless: yep np :)16:07
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coderusaimless: only common QtQuick 2.1 stuf is applicable for sfos. no Quick.XXX17:02
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urjamanfor me opening http://library.sciencemadness.org/library/books/ignition.pdf on the jolla documents thingy => crash...20:07
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kimmolifirefox js pdfviewer says it can not show it correctly20:16
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_1k5I am trying to understand the pageStack.  My application starts with a dialog page, in onAccepted I push a new page on the stack.  Now on that new page I can use the little glowing dot near the top left to go back to the initial dialog.21:31
_1k5Then on that page there is the little dot near top right indicating (iirc) an additional page above this one on the stack.  No on accepting again a page is pushed to the stack.  Am I messing up the stack by adding multiple pages without a way to delete them?21:32
_1k5Is there an easy way to print the entire stack?21:33
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r0kk3rz_1k5, got the code somewhere?21:34
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_1k5r0kk3rz: https://dpaste.de/Gje1 https://dpaste.de/uzLt https://dpaste.de/KRqC21:39
_1k5The second one being the relevant one.21:39
_1k5The question really is though, what happens to the pageStack exactly if I go back a page. (In the emulator click near top left.)21:40
r0kk3rz_1k5, it will pop off the stack and disappear into the ether21:41
_1k5r0kk3rz: Then after that, what does the little dot near the top right indicate.  How does one get this page back from the ether if possible?21:42
r0kk3rz_1k5, btw thats a really annoying way to share QML code, since filenames matter21:42
_1k5I read that on the phone you can swipe left/right to go back/forward a page.  I can't get that to work on the emulator.  (Pushing from the border doesnt seem to work.)21:43
_1k5r0kk3rz: right, sorry.  haven't added this to git yet, was just experimenting a bit.21:44
r0kk3rz_1k5, i suspect its because your initial page is a dialog21:44
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r0kk3rz_1k5, if you want your pages to persist you need to use pushAttached() rather than push()21:47
r0kk3rzotherwise if you go back, they pop off the stack21:47
_1k5r0kk3rz: I would actually prefer if the page is destroyed.  But the glowing dot near top right after going back made me wonder if that's actually happening...21:49
r0kk3rz_1k5, so you go back to the dialog again?21:51
_1k5r0kk3rz: right.  not sure if that's useful but right now it's possible.21:51
r0kk3rz_1k5, dialog always have glowing page indicators, whether theres a page there or not21:52
_1k5r0kk3rz: not when I initially start the app. only after going forward, then backward.21:52
kimmolidialog has glowing dot on right-corner as it is "Accept" for the dialog, but it actually pops (?)21:53
r0kk3rz_1k5, dialog is kind of special anyway, i wouldnt use that as your start qml page21:53
_1k5r0kk3rz: Hmm, ok, maybe I should't do that then.  I thought it's just a particular type of page.21:54
r0kk3rz_1k5, it is, but it probably screws with the page stack in a specific way21:54
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_1k5Okay, so I'll redo this. Maybe create the TalkPage first, then open the ConnectDialog on top of that.21:56
r0kk3rzyeah that sounds like a better way21:56
_1k5But in general, the glowing dot near top right means there is another page after this one, right?  So where does that live if not on the stack?21:56
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r0kk3rz_1k5, on the stack21:57
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_1k5Is there a good description somewhere of how exactly the stack is handled?21:57
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_1k5Currently shown page is always the top on pageStack?  Or is there a stackpointer involved to somewhere below the top?21:58
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_1k5I'm reading the sailfishos.org docs but can't find the info I'm looking for ;-)21:59
r0kk3rz_1k5, https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/silica/qml-sailfishsilica-sailfish-silica-pagestack.html/21:59
_1k5r0kk3rz: I found that, but I didn't find which of the stackPage functions are used when you go back/forward a page.22:00
_1k5navigateForward() I think, but what does navigates up the stack mean.22:01
r0kk3rzif you have a pushAttached page, then you can go forward22:01
r0kk3rzif you only use push, if you go back it will pop()22:01
_1k5This pageStack seems to have more structure.  An additional pointer to which page in the stack is currently viewed maybe?!22:01
_1k5r0kk3rz: only then?  So pushAttached is used e.g. for Dialogs I'm guessing?22:02
r0kk3rz_1k5, no not for dialogs, just push them, they handle themselves22:03
r0kk3rzmy application uses pushattached to have two main pages, which you can navigate between without destroying either one22:03
r0kk3rzkinda like an android carousel22:04
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_1k5r0kk3rz: that's interesting.  So can an attached page again have an attached page?  To make a larger carousel?22:12
r0kk3rz_1k5, sure22:12
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_1k5nice22:13
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_1k5With the initialPage the TalkPage and then the ConnectDialog on top things start to make sense :-)  Thanks!22:26
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_1k5In a `Column` with e.g. a PageHeader, a TextArea and a TextField (in this order), is there a way to make sure TextArea expands while the PageHeader and TextField keep their height, so that the Column fills the entire page?22:41
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_1k5In GTK that would be the packing property `expand` in a VBox.22:41
_1k5Right now I create PageHeader, then TextField, then TextArea with appropriate anchors.  Looking for a better way.22:43
taaem_1k5: use anchors thats fine22:44
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