Wednesday, 2016-01-06

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Tekk_Hm. I think I have a bug. Can someone with an actual Jolla check for me?00:23
Tekk_Wanna make sure it's not some weird port thing00:23
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Tekk_English (US) should mean that temperatures are displayed in Fahrenheit00:23
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Tekk_Just as a polish type thing00:24
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chem|stTekk_: weather app has its own unit settings if that is what you mean00:38
Tekk_Yeah. I just think it'd be nice if it adapted properly, given that it's a built in app00:39
Tekk_Really, a system wide "units" setting would be ideal, like how there's the universal setting for a 24 hour clock00:39
chem|stTekk_: get in line^^00:39
smyruIs timedclient-qt5 open source?00:39
Tekk_chem|st: ^^00:40
chem|stsmyru: yes00:43
chem|stTekk_: and for all I care, combining everything attached to locale settings is very very bad00:44
chem|stsmyru: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/timed/tree/master/tools/timedclient00:44
Tekk_I'm not saying it should be a permanent thing, chem|st00:44
Tekk_but when I looked at the weather I was pretty confused00:44
Tekk_Because when you say you're american, everything tends to default to using fahrenheit, you know?00:45
Tekk_Since celsius never really took off here00:45
chem|stand I am frequently pissed that some apps think they need to set everything to inch and mph just because my language is set to english00:46
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smyruchem|st: thanks00:49
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daithefluHi08:44
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StyXmanis there a list of hardware where saifish runs?10:26
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Stskeepshttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris10:28
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StyXmanStskeeps: thanks10:30
StskeepsStyXman: #sailfishos-porters is where you'd want to be10:31
StyXmanStskeeps: I think I have enough with that table10:32
StyXmanbut thanks for the pointer :)10:32
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xoSkyoxHello12:17
FloR707I have read that there is a nemo-qml-plugin-calendar-qt5 but I cannot find it or documentation for it. Is this not accessible?12:18
xoSkyoxPort community12:18
tbrxoSkyox: I think you are looking for the #sailfishos-porters channel12:19
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xoskyoxSailfish porters12:32
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daithefluI'm still scratching my head trying to figure out what's wrong with my code, anyone ever played with a SilicaListView (with sections) and a QSortFilterProxyModel ?13:48
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TemeVCan I use QMimeType class somehow to figure out the file suffix when I know the mime type?14:43
TemeVOr some else mechanism14:43
TemeVwithout creating a LUT for mime types and suffixes myself14:43
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daithefluTemeV: found this, but I'm not sure that answer your request : http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmimedatabase.html#suffixForFileName14:45
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TemeVdaitheflu: this looks tempting http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmimetype.html#preferredSuffix but I don't know how to construc a QMimeType when I have a string like "image/jpeg"14:49
TemeVdaitheflu: that function just tells what is the suffix of the filename. I'm trying to create the filename when I know the mime type14:51
TemeVah, mimeTypeForName(const QString & nameOrAlias) seems to be the one. How did I miss that14:55
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urjamanthat sounds backwards14:56
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TemeVurjaman: I have the data and mime type. I want to save those to a file14:58
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TemeVthat seems to give .jpeg as preferred though. Well, propably that is not an issue15:11
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coderusTemeV: via QMimeDatabase yes15:32
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TransmutHello, i have a question, is this channel the right for that?15:43
daithefluTransmut: general rule on IRC : ask, don't ask if you can ask ;)15:44
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daithefluTransmut: so yes, just ask your question :)15:46
TransmutI want to be sure, if #jollamobile is better for that, so the question is: How can i make my phone to landscape format? Are there settings15:46
daithefluTransmut: only some apps support landscape mode15:48
daithefluand the Home screen doesn't15:49
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TransmutI have problems to write in the portrait format15:49
TransmutAnd can I change the home screen picture?15:49
daithefluwith which app ?15:49
TransmutDreamPad15:50
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daithefludon't know it, is it a Sailfish app ?15:51
TransmutNo, Android15:51
Transmuthttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nicesprite.dreampad15:51
coderusif android app have no landscape support you cant rotate it to landscape15:52
daithefludoes it support landscape mode on a "normal" android device ?15:52
Bysmyyrwhats the problem?15:52
TransmutI dont know, i have no android mobile15:52
TransmutAnd can I calibrate the screen?15:54
daithefluall screenshots are in portrait mode, so I guess the app doesn't support landscape mode15:54
TransmutOk15:54
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Tekk_Does sailfish not come with a way to view local video?15:57
Tekk_Media heavily implies it's just music15:57
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Tekk_Ah, it's gallery15:58
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TransmutI mean, when you touch the screen the system calculate the position and know what are the distance, so you can write better16:00
TransmutThat is calibrate16:01
kimmolicapacitive touches don't need calibration16:05
kimmoliit was needed for resisitive16:05
Tekk_kimmoli: tell that to some android apps I've used16:07
Transmutok, thx16:09
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Tekk_I'm actually having a bit of trouble setting up mms. Where can I set mcc and mnc?16:13
Tekk_I've got all the other settings right, so as far as I can tell it's all about not being able to set those16:13
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kimmolihttps://together.jolla.com/question/53538/mcc-and-mnc-settings/16:18
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Tekk_That tells you how to check them, not how to set them16:27
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chem|stTekk_: if it is not working because of wrong MCC-MNC, let Jolla know16:38
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chem|stfrom back in the days Stskeeps was collecting those in TJC16:39
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TransmutHello, do you have an application who filter blue light, like f.lux on the pc?19:08
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fledermausTransmut: I don't know what that is. Care to elaborate a bit?19:16
TransmutAN application that filter blue light the night, and the day don't filter the blue light19:18
TransmutLike Twilight for Android, but it doesnt work with jolla, so I search an app in the jolla store19:20
TransmutSo that I'am sure that it work19:20
fledermausTransmut: the answer appears to be "not yet, but people are working on it"19:22
TransmutOk, thanks19:23
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fledermausTransmut: basically the display is wayland, not xorg or the android thing (surfaceflinger?) so the approach needs to be a bit different.19:24
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TransmutAnd whats the name of the projetct?19:25
fledermauswell, the existing thing is "redshift", which was what did it on the n9, but I think this requires a wayland extension.19:25
fledermausdiscussion starts here:19:26
fledermaushttps://together.jolla.com/question/30064/appfeature-request-redshift/19:26
TransmutI have Linux and use redshift yet, lol19:26
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kimmolithere is simple overlay thing, which applies black opaque layer on top of the screen. you can't adjust individual colors, but make the screen dimmer than with basic brightness settings19:40
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fledermausopaque or translucent? :)19:52
coderushttps://openrepos.net/content/coderus/tint-overlay19:54
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TransmutOk, thx19:59
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Tekk_chem|st: let jolla know, or let my porter know?21:04
Tekk_(I'm on a nexus 5 since I'm american)21:04
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chem|stTekk_: let Jolla know21:33
Tekk_Okay21:33
chem|stdoes not matter on what device teh mcc mnc records are wrong :)21:33
Tekk_Well the data records are wrong too, which wasn't helpful :)21:33
chem|stoh all of it wrong...21:34
Tekk_Actually, the data record isn't *wrong* exactly21:34
Tekk_It's accurate for the Jolla21:34
Tekk_It could be the same case for mms I suppose21:34
chem|stTekk_: that is something NOT device specific, it depends on the provider21:35
Tekk_No, I mean that the apn info was for AT&T's 2G network21:35
chem|stTekk_: https://together.jolla.com/question/942/did-you-have-trouble-with-your-jolla-not-discovering-gprs3g-data-settings/21:35
Tekk_and they don't support at&t's 3g network21:36
Tekk_because at&t uses a nonstandard freq that the hardware doesn't do21:36
chem|stTekk_: well that is another thing21:36
Tekk_So it could be that's the problem with mms, it uses the info settings for at&t's 2g network21:36
Tekk_so it might not be wrong per se21:36
Tekk_But having a nexus 5, I'd rather be using their 4G network which they're not shutting down over the course of this year ;)21:37
chem|stfor me, settings do depend on provider not on network type21:37
chem|stat&t is shutting down their 3g?21:37
Tekk_their 2G21:38
chem|stwtf21:38
Tekk_That's why I'm on an N5 now21:38
Tekk_I had an N900, but that's obviously 2G only in the US as well21:39
Tekk_for at&t21:39
Tekk_I was hoping to hold out until they came out with a US Jolla, but it wasn't in the cards21:39
chem|stanother way to force people to buy new things, I would see to change carriers21:39
tigeliit's bit weird if they do shutdown their 2g network as most of the people coming from europe still depend on it quite heavily21:40
Tekk_tigeli: europe is fundamentally different in their phone usage21:40
Tekk_You guys actually buy your phones21:40
chem|sttigeli: not only that, it is still the most reliable fallback21:41
Tekk_Anyway, I'd be on t-mobile if I had my own plan21:41
Tekk_but I'm a uni student; still on my parents' plan21:41
Tekk_tigeli: in the US phones are disposable21:41
Tekk_When you sign with the carrier they give you a phone, every few years they give you a free or cheap upgrade to a new phone21:41
tigeliTekk_: most people I know get their phones from the employer ;)21:41
Tekk_So everyone's phone is 2 or 3 years old max21:42
FireFly<Tekk_> You guys actually buy your phones  ← "upgrading" to a new phone at the expense of signing for another 24-or-so months with a particular carrier is a thing here too, if that's what you mean21:42
chem|stTekk_: I had that with my plan in the beginning, instead of new phones I went with 24month refunds and started buying phones21:43
tigeliTekk_: still.. a lot of different sensors/meters use only 2g.21:43
Tekk_FireFly: of course :)21:43
Tekk_I assumed that tigeli would mentally add the correct amount of cynicism21:43
Tekk_I'm not sure how that's working now, though21:44
Tekk_All the major carriers have dropped contracts21:44
chem|sttigeli: so true, alot of non-phone hardware is 2g only, as the data is so minor they do not even need fast connections, just good reception21:44
Tekk_But they're probably still going to keep up the phone upgrade thing21:44
chem|stthey all love branding21:45
Tekk_Oh, well21:45
Tekk_I guess it takes care of itself, doesn't it?21:45
Tekk_You're going to buy a locked phone from AT&T/TMobile/whoever21:46
Tekk_so in practice you *can't* switch21:46
Tekk_The contract is pointless21:46
Tekk_(Unless you want to swallow the cost of a new phone)21:46
chem|st.gov forced providers to drop that on contracts21:47
Tekk_Ah, thanks21:47
chem|stnot much to swallow, decent hardware with android is $100 from china21:47
chem|stfor avg joe just fine21:48
Tekk_But that's not what avg joe wants21:48
tigeliTekk_: in Finland we can even transfer the phone number to different operator :)21:48
chem|stthe first iphone contracts here were $80/m with the phone basically for free21:48
chem|stTekk_: what does avg joe want? chains like back in the days?21:49
Tekk_He's going to want an s6 ($470 on amazon, discounted from $1100) or an iphone 6+ ($1050)21:49
Tekk_Because that's going to be an upgrade on what he already has21:49
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Tekk_Unless he already has them through his carrier21:49
tigeliyh.. s621:50
chem|stI will never ever buy something phone like from samsung again21:50
tigelidon't get it why people want to have touchwiz-phones21:50
* Tekk_ has to head out to see a friend21:50
Tekk_I'll be back eventually21:50
chem|sttigeli: me neither21:50
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