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r0kk3rz | http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/04/htc-nexus-marlin-sailfish-devices-details/ | 08:21 |
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r0kk3rz | codename sailfish? now thats just mean | 08:21 |
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kimmoli | but can you put Sailfish in sailfish? | 08:38 |
urjaman | yo dawg... | 08:44 |
urjaman | sailfish in your sailfish so you can sailfish with sailfish | 08:45 |
r0kk3rz | it will most likely be 64bit arm | 08:47 |
r0kk3rz | so no | 08:47 |
r0kk3rz | :P | 08:47 |
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urjaman | cant you run that like on x64, 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userland? :P... but okay if their drivery userland stuff is 64bit then yeah interfacing might be ... complicated | 08:48 |
r0kk3rz | ghosalmartin was trying to do something like that, im not sure if any success was had yet | 08:49 |
Krikke | what's the newest sailfish for N9 ? | 08:53 |
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tbr | Krikke: the newest is old | 09:23 |
tbr | http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/n9/ | 09:24 |
Krikke | oh | 09:24 |
Krikke | that's still never than I've got | 09:24 |
tbr | I thought someone wanted to try for a newer image | 09:24 |
Krikke | put in 1.0.2.5 | 09:24 |
Krikke | got to try that one | 09:25 |
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zGrr | moin :) | 09:27 |
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r0kk3rz | Krikke: the newer one is at least post-uitukka so more apps are likely to work | 10:07 |
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Krikke | okay | 10:15 |
Krikke | that's good to hear | 10:15 |
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tortoisedoc | hmhm | 11:10 |
tortoisedoc | is it known where this interrupted incoming call bug is? | 11:10 |
tortoisedoc | in jolla-lipstick or in mer? | 11:11 |
tortoisedoc | and are there any repro steps available? | 11:11 |
leszek | last thing I heard of was that it only occured when using LTE (4G) | 11:11 |
tortoisedoc | heh | 11:12 |
tortoisedoc | that leaves the full stack to look for :P | 11:12 |
tortoisedoc | I wonder if there's a mer bug | 11:13 |
tortoisedoc | or a jolla bug | 11:13 |
urjaman | i'd guess not in any released code | 11:13 |
tortoisedoc | urjaman : yeah that's what im afraid of as well | 11:13 |
urjaman | could be in jolla-internal-mer-tree even if its in mer | 11:14 |
tortoisedoc | possibly | 11:14 |
tortoisedoc | but given jolla takes ofono from mer | 11:14 |
Stskeeps | urjaman: allmer bits are in git public- the pointers may be different | 11:15 |
tortoisedoc | that is the only part which could be checked by community devs | 11:15 |
tortoisedoc | Stskeeps : which pointers? | 11:15 |
urjaman | since jolla likes to keep the stuff internal until real release... atleast thats what it has felt like | 11:15 |
Stskeeps | as in 'which hash' | 11:15 |
tortoisedoc | ah yes definitely jolla is pushing to upstream mer as well | 11:16 |
Stskeeps | urjaman: the dumps are basically just dumps from.mer git | 11:16 |
tortoisedoc | but most likely not until code is SOLID | 11:16 |
tortoisedoc | excluding android drivers | 11:17 |
tortoisedoc | which we cant do anything about anyways | 11:17 |
tortoisedoc | and call ui | 11:17 |
tortoisedoc | which only jolla can take care of | 11:17 |
tortoisedoc | what is left to check? | 11:17 |
urjaman | somebody make a jolla stalker thing :P | 11:18 |
tortoisedoc | huh why jolla | 11:18 |
tortoisedoc | if the bug is not in call-ui | 11:18 |
urjaman | (essentially an rss of pushes to any mer packages ...) | 11:18 |
* leszek wonders if mer and jolla ever applied the little patch to fix the clipboard | 11:19 | |
tortoisedoc | for instance, no point in stalking them :P | 11:19 |
tortoisedoc | leszek : most likely not if you did not push hard | 11:19 |
tortoisedoc | leszek : was it qml patch or lower? | 11:19 |
urjaman | but nah, was just a thought ... origin: stalker.openpandora.org :P | 11:20 |
leszek | tortoisedoc: I think I pushed hard by writing to the mailinglist and on each webcat upload with a notice to the harbour guys | 11:20 |
tortoisedoc | leszek : that's hard, did you also persist? | 11:20 |
Tegu | git push --hard? | 11:20 |
tortoisedoc | push it goood | 11:21 |
leszek | tortoisedoc: its not qml but cpp but take a look it just one line adding: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01567.html | 11:21 |
urjaman | git push --harder --yes --persist ... | 11:21 |
urjaman | :P | 11:21 |
tortoisedoc | lol | 11:21 |
tortoisedoc | leszek : you could submit a mr? | 11:22 |
tortoisedoc | to mer? | 11:22 |
leszek | yeah clearing the clipboard solves the issue. At least I integrated that code in webcat and it solves the issue completely | 11:22 |
tortoisedoc | I doubt anyone will ever care to pick code from a dusty mail archive | 11:22 |
tortoisedoc | so proactiveness is required | 11:23 |
tortoisedoc | (anyone but the original author, that is..) | 11:23 |
tortoisedoc | (at least that's a hope) | 11:23 |
leszek | tortoisedoc: if you know how to proceed from here feel free to do it. I am exhausted when it comes to this. As I am complaining for years already but no one is listening | 11:23 |
tortoisedoc | huh | 11:23 |
leszek | I contributed to other projects in free software and opensource world. That somehow worked quite fine. But contributing to SailfishOS seems like a endavour | 11:24 |
Tegu | np: Linkin Park - Nobody's Listening | 11:24 |
leszek | a hard one | 11:25 |
kimmoli | sledges: ^ ping. could it be time to fix da-clipboard? | 11:26 |
urjaman | i've... well i was about to say i've seen harder places but not sure... | 11:26 |
sledges | kimmoli: upvoted tjc ticket? ;) | 11:26 |
kimmoli | which one of those? | 11:27 |
sledges | anything you want fixed;) | 11:27 |
urjaman | sledges: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01567.html | 11:28 |
tortoisedoc | urjaman did you persist on pushing them ? ;) | 11:28 |
kimmoli | i think we promote this one? https://together.jolla.com/question/68537/clipboard-copy-paste-broken-not-getting-updated-at-times/ | 11:29 |
urjaman | tried 3 times (with 2y interval) and it took 4 years to get a patch in | 11:29 |
tbr | try to locate that thing on the Mer gitlab and see who "owns" it and then hunt them down and make them merge it? | 11:29 |
urjaman | so i guess i persisted, but didnt push that hard.... | 11:30 |
sledges | http://www.merproject.org/dash/ | 11:30 |
urjaman | kimmoli: btw, did my fingerterm stuff get into 2.0.1? | 11:31 |
kimmoli | ΓΆΓΆ | 11:31 |
tortoisedoc | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick/merge_requests/34 | 11:31 |
tortoisedoc | there, that was not that hard | 11:31 |
urjaman | I'm running my own thumbterm so i wouldnt notice actually.... | 11:32 |
urjaman | and i'm running 2.0.0 .... | 11:32 |
urjaman | hmm... | 11:32 |
kimmoli | tortoisedoc: commit message breaks link. | 11:32 |
tortoisedoc | kimmoli : not for me? | 11:32 |
kimmoli | in gitlab, it splits it ... | 11:33 |
tortoisedoc | kimmoli : weird, iceweasel here shows it ok and opens it ok too | 11:34 |
tbr | and now go pester rainemak to merge it | 11:34 |
tortoisedoc | lol | 11:34 |
tortoisedoc | I am not sure rainemak is the one? | 11:34 |
kimmoli | i think mer bug is needed ... | 11:34 |
tortoisedoc | i think *sledges* might be more close this time? | 11:35 |
rainemak | tbr, what's up? | 11:35 |
tbr | rainemak: there is a MR for lipstick and you touched it last :) | 11:35 |
tortoisedoc | btw : <spiiroin> tortoisedoc: in jolla ui | 11:35 |
tortoisedoc | so much for helping then :/ | 11:35 |
tortoisedoc | touched it --hard? | 11:36 |
tortoisedoc | kimmoli ah ok now I see ; lets see if i can fix the commit message-- | 11:36 |
kimmoli | met-1575 | 11:37 |
kimmoli | mer-1575 | 11:37 |
kimmoli | or this https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575 | 11:37 |
merbot | Mer bug 1575 in lipstick "Clipboard gets stuck intermittenly" [Task,New] | 11:37 |
rainemak | tbr, there are fixes done in sailfish silica and qtwayland regarding clipboard clearing | 11:38 |
tbr | rainemak: better discuss that with urjaman then | 11:38 |
urjaman | wat | 11:39 |
tbr | or was it leszek | 11:39 |
tortoisedoc | tbr : not urjaman, leszek :P | 11:39 |
urjaman | leszek | 11:39 |
kimmoli | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qtwayland/merge_requests/5 | 11:39 |
tortoisedoc | hmm that might be something different? | 11:39 |
rainemak | and also https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qtwayland/merge_requests/4 | 11:40 |
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urjaman | i just helped with links from history :P | 11:41 |
tortoisedoc | okay so the mr is most likely pointless, but I hope it stands the case for pushing MR's :P | 11:42 |
tortoisedoc | on a different topic.. | 11:43 |
leszek | Yeah this patch looks like a better one than the one I provided as it solves the underlying problem that I could not find back in the day I was researching this issue: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qtwayland/commit/de92b081014c70916fe2ac49d743b52f1c96e6b3 | 11:43 |
tortoisedoc | it amazes me the fact that jolla assumes their users to be that fast to copy/paste to rely on usec resolution :P | 11:43 |
leszek | though I am not sure if this is the only problem of the clipboard | 11:44 |
urjaman | reinventing the 80s.... | 11:46 |
tortoisedoc | hehe | 11:46 |
kimmoli | added all these MR refs to mer bug... | 11:46 |
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kimmoli | https://together.jolla.com/question/126892/release-notes-201taalojarvi-early-access/ | 12:10 |
urjaman | kimmoli: doesnt look like it | 12:11 |
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urjaman | the new fingerterm would be 1.1.17, 2.0.0 has 1.1.16, and detailed changelog has no fingerterm... | 12:12 |
urjaman | maybe in 2017 :P | 12:12 |
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r0kk3rz | wow, 2.0.1.11! | 12:19 |
r0kk3rz | longest EA release ever | 12:19 |
r0kk3rz | surely we'll get aurajoki straight after, now the call bug is fixed | 12:23 |
nodevel | I better ask at the mer-meeting, but can anyone test if this (quite critical) bug has been resolved in 2.0.1.11? https://together.jolla.com/question/128155/mobile-data-connection-dies/ | 12:24 |
nodevel | ah, I thought mer-meeting was today. never mind then. I'll install and check myself | 12:26 |
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r0kk3rz | 140mb, big for a few security fixes and a call bug fix | 12:30 |
kimmoli | glibc | 12:31 |
r0kk3rz | [sailfishapp] Add support for multiple icon sizes. | 12:32 |
r0kk3rz | sneeeky feature | 12:32 |
r0kk3rz | updated maps as well | 12:33 |
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kimmoli | propably again just some translations | 12:34 |
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tortoisedoc | UPDAAAAAAAAAAATE | 12:39 |
tortoisedoc | :D | 12:39 |
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leszek | oh great jolla phones btrfs is showing full even though data used is only 8 GB | 12:42 |
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leszek | balancing gui is in a loop | 12:43 |
r0kk3rz | :D | 12:43 |
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r0kk3rz | btrfs, the gift that keeps on giving | 12:43 |
leszek | btrfs balance start -dusage=XX is now running but seems to fail on 22 already | 12:43 |
leszek | not relocating anything | 12:43 |
leszek | at least the tablet is loading the update now | 12:44 |
tortoisedoc | btrfs just proofs again that it does not just sound like an obscenity cause of the word | 12:44 |
leszek | hehe. normally I don't have any big problems with btrfs. But last time on my 2 years old laptop I also had to plug in an external hd to rebalance as otherwise even dusage=1 failed | 12:45 |
leszek | I fear I have to do the same with the jolla | 12:45 |
tortoisedoc | is ext3 too much to ask? | 12:45 |
tortoisedoc | :/ | 12:45 |
leszek | ext3 ? ext4 is used on the tablet | 12:45 |
tortoisedoc | ext4? | 12:46 |
tortoisedoc | yeah | 12:46 |
tortoisedoc | how comes they chose brtfs | 12:46 |
tortoisedoc | over ext3/4/whatever | 12:46 |
leszek | I think that runs sane and the snapshotting feature of lvm is also fine on it and prooves it can replace the btrfs stuff | 12:46 |
leszek | tortoisedoc: the filesystem of the future today :) | 12:46 |
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leszek | I mean btrfs is stable and runs stable as long as you don't put too much data on it | 12:47 |
tortoisedoc | ehm | 12:47 |
tortoisedoc | doesnt that defeat the purpouse? | 12:47 |
leszek | or if you have unlimited storage capacity like facebook | 12:47 |
tortoisedoc | a file system is supposed to be able to handle data of any ammount | 12:47 |
tortoisedoc | cause it'sa fs? | 12:47 |
leszek | I wonder if moving stuff onto the sd card might help | 12:49 |
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chem|st | tortoisedoc: too much data in terms of fill the disk, for that reason ext has a limit implemented so only root can actually fill a disk | 12:50 |
chem|st | btrfs has a lot of neat features but only shows its true powers on systems with 2+ SSDs or 2+ physical devices at least | 12:52 |
tortoisedoc | hmhm | 12:52 |
chem|st | and managed right, the btrfs on a Jolla has no shortcoming ever | 12:53 |
urjaman | |the 3.4 kernel likely isnt helping | 12:53 |
chem|st | I hit the full rootfs exactly once, learned the lesson and have now almost 2 years no issue! | 12:53 |
urjaman | (i know it has gotten atleast some fixes but...) | 12:53 |
chem|st | urjaman: yeah some are not portable | 12:54 |
chem|st | the missing kernelupgrade... fcking Q could open up, at least 4 years after a product was released... | 12:55 |
urjaman | 12.77/14.76 Gt, 99% used... | 12:55 |
urjaman | is my df now ... | 12:55 |
urjaman | which i confusing as hell ... | 12:55 |
tortoisedoc | features of brtfs :P | 12:56 |
chem|st | tortoisedoc: you hate the world, we all know that by now! | 12:56 |
tortoisedoc | chem|st : now why do you say that! :D | 12:56 |
urjaman | where'd the 2 Gt go? ... for a moment i thought its just the root-only part, but 2G? ... | 12:56 |
chem|st | tortoisedoc: if you want you can find negative sides in everything | 12:56 |
tortoisedoc | chem|st : definitely , but please note there was a ":P" appended too | 12:57 |
tortoisedoc | I must say only once brtfs optimization failed me | 12:57 |
chem|st | tortoisedoc: I know, so think my response with it and you are all good | 12:58 |
tortoisedoc | yup | 12:58 |
urjaman | btrfs has failed me once, that was me being fancy & hit disk full during update | 12:58 |
chem|st | tortoisedoc: and for the record, iPhones become bricks way before the device is full, response times of 10s to minutes | 12:59 |
chem|st | so does android when the cache is full | 12:59 |
tortoisedoc | chem|st does iphone run ext? | 12:59 |
tortoisedoc | or what do they run? | 12:59 |
tortoisedoc | (i really do not know btw) | 12:59 |
chem|st | tortoisedoc: guess that hpfs thing | 12:59 |
leszek | hpfs+ | 12:59 |
urjaman | made a snapshot of was it 1.0.9 or smth and tried to update | 12:59 |
leszek | and that is ancient | 12:59 |
chem|st | leszek: ancient does not quiet cover it | 13:00 |
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r0kk3rz | ancient, but works | 13:00 |
urjaman | snapshot made the update use way more than expected... | 13:00 |
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urjaman | luckily i also dd'd the mmc to pc before the update so i 'just' made a totally new fs... | 13:01 |
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urjaman | *1.1.9 | 13:04 |
urjaman | i made that my 'factory' :P (since i anyways have the original stored elsewhere...) | 13:04 |
urjaman | but this made me think, i suppose the phone would be fine with single ext4 at / ? (yeah recovery to factory wouldnt work and maybe it'd need some boot param...) | 13:07 |
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nodevel | just installed 2.0.1.11 and it works fine. but the critical internet connection bug apparently hasn't been fixed, so 4G is still virtually unusable on Jolla (since 2.0.1.7) | 13:11 |
kimmoli | nodevel: 4G works for me, so it must be kinda specific case? | 13:11 |
r0kk3rz | works for me too | 13:12 |
tortoisedoc | nic | 13:12 |
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tortoisedoc | *nice | 13:12 |
tortoisedoc | nodevel : same here, 4G works fine | 13:13 |
nodevel | kimmoli, tortoisedoc: it is mostly about probability. for some people, even 3G is crashing. in my case, 3G is ~10% likely to crash, for 4G it is almost 90%. I have observed this independently on two devices. | 13:15 |
nodevel | could be a provider related, but it has been definitely introduced with the 2.0.1.7 update | 13:16 |
tortoisedoc | nodevel : can you test with different provider? | 13:17 |
tortoisedoc | hmm | 13:18 |
tortoisedoc | notes app rendering bug is still there | 13:18 |
kimmoli | i have mobile crashes, need to switch flightmode or reboot to resurrect. but those have been from day0, and they are related physical location | 13:18 |
tortoisedoc | (rendering note with alot of text, for instance >100kb) | 13:18 |
tortoisedoc | rainemak : is there anyone following qtwayland on jolla's side nowadays? | 13:19 |
nodevel | tortoisedoc: not in the near future (I could have a chance in a week or so), but according to TMO and TJC, there are at least ~20 more people experiencing this and they are unlikely on the same provider as me (not even the same country) | 13:19 |
tortoisedoc | journalctl ? | 13:20 |
tortoisedoc | nodevel: journalctl? | 13:20 |
tortoisedoc | any hint there? | 13:20 |
nodevel | kimmoli: in my case, mobile crashes had been a thing for about first 6 months after Jolla release, but not on the same scale as with 2.0.1.7 | 13:20 |
nodevel | tortoisedoc: will check | 13:20 |
tortoisedoc | rainemak : I have an interesting behaviour with a test app on wayland | 13:25 |
rainemak | andrew would be best guy to help | 13:29 |
urjaman | of the changelog, i'd be mostly suspicious of the connman updates (otoh: connmanctl yay) | 13:30 |
urjaman | gitlab isnt the best to browse on mobile btw | 13:30 |
urjaman | has that huge sidebar wasting sideways space from the diff you want to look at... | 13:32 |
nodevel | tortoisedoc: checked journalctl, narrowed it down to cca 50 lines of log, but nothing that would indicate what's the problem | 13:33 |
nodevel | this line looks like the prime suspect: | 13:33 |
nodevel | Apr 28 15:08:46 Jolla ofonod[739]: g_ril_reply_parse_data_call: Invalid type(protocol) specified: | 13:33 |
tortoisedoc | rainemak : thanks | 13:33 |
tortoisedoc | rainemak : andrew shenton= | 13:34 |
tortoisedoc | ? | 13:34 |
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tortoisedoc | hmm | 13:34 |
nodevel | tortoisedoc: just tried again and when I try connecting to internet on 4G, journalctl does not log anything related, even though the connection fails. note that this has been working fine before 2.0.1.7 | 13:39 |
tortoisedoc | journalctl is silent? | 13:39 |
tortoisedoc | weird | 13:39 |
nodevel | unfortunately | 13:40 |
tortoisedoc | I'd guess some more debugging info should be enabled... | 13:40 |
tortoisedoc | but i cant help with that unfortunately :/ | 13:40 |
nodevel | thanks nevertheless! | 13:40 |
nodevel | i'll try to bring it up on the next mer meeting, so it could be at least investigated internally (or some debugging advice could be given). TJC doesn't seem to get much attention recently | 13:41 |
tortoisedoc | yeah | 13:42 |
tortoisedoc | i guess perhaps also in #mer you might have more of a chance to get some info | 13:43 |
nodevel | fair point. thanks | 13:43 |
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nodevel | just remembered I actually did try it on different providers (Czech, German) in completely different locations and the bug occurred on both | 14:18 |
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chem|st | nodevel: tjc bugreport it - that is not a community-devel topic (that is what the meeting is actually for) | 14:25 |
urjaman | its already in tjc | 14:26 |
chem|st | nodevel: sry so used to not say please (I am ordering around people alot lately) | 14:26 |
chem|st | urjaman: does it have a jolla tracked banner? | 14:27 |
urjaman | you dont seem to get much done w/ tjc... | 14:27 |
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nodevel | chem|st: no problem :) no, it does not have the banner. https://together.jolla.com/question/128155/bug-mobile-data-connection-dies-since-201x/ | 14:27 |
nodevel | chem|st: tjc used to be really useful, but it has become really stale. i would not dare to bring up minor bugs or feature requests on the mer meeting, but this bug looks like something that should be looked into before the final release | 14:29 |
nodevel | chem|st: since it was introduced in the early access release (2.0.1.7) and therefore it hasn't hit the public yet on stable releases | 14:30 |
urjaman | half of me is hoping they'll just push the release anyways | 14:31 |
urjaman | we'd get a good bunch of unassuming 'beta' testers | 14:31 |
urjaman | but that'd be a little evil :P | 14:32 |
nodevel | urjaman: just a little :) | 14:32 |
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urjaman | OTOH the release is already very late... | 14:33 |
nodevel | true. but if this bug is not vendor specific (Jolla), it could hurt the Intex release too | 14:34 |
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nodevel | to be honest, I got used to using 3G instead (where the bug does not happen that often), so I can live with it for some time. but the purpose of early access releases is to find these bugs, so I hope it will get some visibility | 14:38 |
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urjaman | yeah i'm currently with 2.0.0 because i've got it patched enough :P and i've heard first of the call bug and now this... | 14:41 |
urjaman | and like i like 4G and being able to get calls :P | 14:42 |
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nodevel | urjaman: yeah, it's interesting, though - I never came across the call bug and some people never came across this bug. so there's some chance you will be lucky :) | 14:43 |
urjaman | but i guess i'd be one of the 'beta' testers some time after release anyways | 14:44 |
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urjaman | running older than 'stable' would be eww | 14:44 |
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urjaman | (wait for the >10 patches to also update and go :P, though i guess lots already have been...) | 14:46 |
nodevel | true. i actually found one additional critical bug on 2.0.1.7 - all contacts' (not synced, local) numbers were cut to 6 digits (or replaced by 6 random digits). but I wasn't able to reproduce it and figure out the case, so didn't report it | 14:46 |
nodevel | few months of contacts lost... so a good motivation to backup more often :) | 14:47 |
urjaman | i backup the whole phone on updates | 14:47 |
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urjaman | *before | 14:48 |
nodevel | same here. it wasn't my phone, though, so I wasn't the one updating | 14:48 |
urjaman | ah... | 14:48 |
nodevel | also it did not happed at once, the numbers were replaced gradually over few weeks. weird | 14:50 |
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urjaman | my only guess would be corrupt db, but how so specific 6 digits.. | 14:52 |
chem|st | nodevel: was that with .7 or .11 (contacts?) | 14:52 |
nodevel | .7 | 14:53 |
nodevel | chem|st: .7 | 14:53 |
chem|st | urjaman: iirc it isn't the number shown but some other db value, my contacts did still work even with showing the odd number | 14:53 |
nodevel | chem|st: i don't remember correctly, but this could have been the case. it was weird. however, in the backup file, all numbers were lost | 14:54 |
nodevel | however, I did not see it mentioned anywhere else, so I supposed it was an isolated incident. only cleaning the db fixed it. backup restoration did not work | 14:55 |
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nodevel | chem|st: it definitely was the right (phone number) value it the resulting backup vcf file - all numbers there had 6 digits. | 14:59 |
nodevel | still have the vcf file here (looking at it right now), but i'm not comfortable sharing it as those are not my contacts and the 6 digits seem to be parts of real phone numbers | 15:01 |
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urjaman | start/end/middle/random? ... | 15:03 |
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nodevel | urjaman: just checked it against an older backup and they seem to be random, most (if not all) of them starting with 1, 2 or 3. so probably not parts of real phone numbers | 15:05 |
nodevel | urjaman: they do not seem to be corresponding to the real phone numbers now that I'm looking at it | 15:06 |
chem|st | nodevel: ok that is then another issue (I did have some alike too once) | 15:15 |
leszek | there isn't a changelog from 2.0.1.7 to 2.0.1.11 or a diff in tjc that I can take a look at what changed from this to that ? | 15:18 |
chem|st | leszek: scroll the release notes | 15:22 |
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leszek | chem|st: so manually scrolling ? Hmm...pff | 15:49 |
leszek | I don't have all the changes memorized though | 15:50 |
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urjaman | is it possible to launch >1 sailfish browsers? | 16:33 |
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urjaman | single one is a bit multitasking-limited with the tab freezing/unloading... | 16:34 |
urjaman | i btw googled for '--help' when trying to figure if it takes anything useful.... | 16:35 |
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kimmoli | urjaman: try to look in .desktop | 16:59 |
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TheRealJohnGalt | urjaman: or use a browser that has true multi tasking for tabs. I believe both web pirate and webcat would foot the bill. | 20:47 |
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till | does anyone have a recent image file of /dev/mmcblk0p28? the last update went really wrong :/ | 22:28 |
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