Friday, 2016-07-08

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Armadillohm... no more info on the community device program since 10 days. The final database checks take a very long time it seems^09:23
Armadillo^^09:23
LarstiQArmadillo: afraid it's issues with shipping09:24
Renaultbut, the delivery should be directly HK to customer or HK to Finland then to customer ?09:35
LarstiQRenault: HK to customer09:35
Renaultok, maybe holidays has an impact (less employees to do that for example)09:36
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TMavicaI still waiting a callvyo pickup my Jollac in hk11:05
TMavicaI still waiting a call to pickup my Jollac in hk office11:05
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LarstiQTMavica: it's going to take a while11:12
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TMavicaLarstiQ: u are there??11:24
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ganHi everyone13:21
gancan anyone help me? my jolla does not start13:21
ganafter pressing the start button13:21
ganno vibration or LED13:22
kimmoliand nothing if you plug it to charger?13:22
ganbattery not an issue, it was full.... and also I tried starting with my friend's jolla phone battery...it didnt work13:22
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gani plugged into charger with battery, there is no charging LED indication.13:23
ganbut when i plug into charger without battery, the yellow LED blinks for a second13:23
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kimmoliwhen you plug it in charger, it should boot to show it is charging. well sounds like a "contact care" case to me.13:25
ganoh :(13:25
gancould there any issue with start button?13:26
ganpower button13:26
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ganoh i am from india....we dont have service centers here13:26
kimmoliif you can't enter recovery, it does not show it's charging, propably nothing wrong with the physical button.13:26
ganis there any other trick that i can try? like pressing volume button / power button combo multiple times etc....13:27
ganoh but why led blinks yellow when i connect to charger without battery?13:27
ganalso to give a background, my phone has the latest OS version...and few days it was too slow, android apps didnt work, also my contacts and messages were not working...then i ran btrfs-balancer to clear the memory....13:28
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ganyesterday i got back the phone and message app working... then i ran registry app rebuild13:29
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ganand it asked for security code and it turned off after a while.....after that, i was not able to start the phone at all13:29
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caitlini am failing to interpolate strings in qml13:40
caitlini'm in a text field trying to shove some values into a text:13:41
caitlinmy search foo is weak and what i read baffles me :(13:41
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kimmolicaitlin: what exactly?13:47
r0kk3rzinterpolate? that word doesnt mean what you think it does13:48
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LarstiQr0kk3rz: string interpolation?13:49
r0kk3rzLarstiQ: yes slightly nonsensical13:49
kimmolihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_interpolation13:50
kimmoli("this is %1 argument").arg("huu") ??13:50
kimmoliin QString13:50
caitlinprobably that13:50
LarstiQr0kk3rz: it means just what I choose it to mean13:50
caitlini'm in a .qml file and i want to put several things into a string that looks like json13:51
r0kk3rzkimmoli: interesting, i wouldnt call that 'interpolation' but i stand corrected13:51
* kimmoli googled it :P13:51
kimmolibut yes, for translations, e.g. this might help http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-internationalization.html13:52
kimmoli4. Use %x to Insert Parameters into a String13:52
urjamanthats formatting to me :P13:52
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urjamani also read "interpolation" and brain was like "doesnt compute" .... (something like what is character 1.5 of string "hello" :P)13:53
r0kk3rzurjaman: heh13:53
caitlinepic, that's got me moving again13:54
caitlincheers13:54
kimmolihope it interpolates now13:54
kimmoli:P13:54
r0kk3rzplease interpolate between values "trump" and "clinton"13:54
kimmolihiland ?13:54
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LarstiQr0kk3rz, urjaman: you're ignoring the wider English meaning in favor of the mathematical one13:55
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* LarstiQ has some sympathy for that as a mathematician, but still ;P13:56
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r0kk3rzLarstiQ: what "wider english meaning"?? its a mathematical term!13:56
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LarstiQr0kk3rz: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=interpolate13:57
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LarstiQand 1913 Webster has "The act of introducing or inserting anything, especially that which is spurious or foreign.13:57
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r0kk3rzmore commonly simply called 'insert'13:58
r0kk3rzanyway, thats enough vocabulary nazism13:59
kimmoliwhat would extrapolate be in this context?14:00
caitlinI apologise for using crap i've been taught by cruddy british universities. they do like long words :/14:01
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kimmolicaitlin: np, you gave us a nice topic14:02
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kimmoliextrapolate is this ("that will %").arg("extrapolate") , you don't insert in middle but outside the known range ??14:03
r0kk3rzcaitlin: honestly, i consider myself well versed in the english language and i have *never* seen interpolate used in anything other than a mathematical context14:03
r0kk3rzbut i am australian, so perhaps we just thought "nah lets just call it insert"14:04
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fledermausr0kk3rz: string interpolation is what it's called.14:05
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fledermausthere's even a wp article about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_interpolation, and it crops up called that in the docs of every language I've ever used that provides it.14:06
fledermausalthough more usually it refers to in place substitution14:07
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fledermauslike "blah blah blah $foo blah blah"14:07
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fledermausthe other thing is not quite what I think of when someone says interpolation14:08
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LarstiQr0kk3rz: you aussies removed too much latin from the English language ;)14:17
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r0kk3rzLarstiQ: quite possibly :)14:19
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fledermausr0kk3rz: so d'you have a govt over there yet? ours is still busy doing some sort of evil-clown-car-collective performance art.14:24
r0kk3rzfledermaus: its looking like the conservatives by a hair14:27
r0kk3rzthe senate? yeah nobody knows :)14:27
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fledermausI'm hoping for the bogong moth and fire ant collective: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/i-love-the-smell-of-recriminations-in-the-morning-14:33
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r0kk3rzfledermaus: heh first dog is a good way to follow aus-politics14:37
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fledermausgotta be less depressing than UK politics rigt now :/14:38
r0kk3rzyeah... its all a bit worrying14:38
fledermausand then there's the US...14:39
r0kk3rzthe US is fine, for now. who knows come november14:39
fledermausif anyone needs me I'll be under my desk in a foetal position, slowly rocking back and forth.14:39
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fledermausr0kk3rz: oh, did oyu not see? snipers took out several policemen at a protest rally about the two most recent police killings of unarmed/unresisting black men.14:40
kimmolifledermaus: dont forget your http://www.merteil.fi/kuva-data/19560.jpg14:40
fledermausit's all a bit hairy right now.14:40
r0kk3rzfledermaus: isnt that just a normal friday?14:40
fledermausthe killings by police? sadly yes. the snipers, not so much.14:41
r0kk3rzthey sure like shooting each other over there14:41
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fledermausI will never understand their gun culture.14:47
Renaultfledermaus: it is always a historical trouble :/14:47
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r0kk3rzi can understand it, i still think its dumb and overly simplistic, but its not that hard to understand14:49
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swex_hi there16:39
swex_anybody tried to use QBluetoothSocket to connect to rfcomm socket16:40
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swex_I cant get QBluetoothSocket to work17:47
fledermausswex_: I know nothing about that myself, but you're more likely to get an answer if you have something more specific than that - try posting (in a paste site, not here) a minimal example of what you did, and explain what you expected it to do, and what (if anything) it did instead.17:51
swex_fledermaus: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/389028/14680005/17:55
swex_here is minimal example17:55
swex_and all I see is QBluetoothSocket::UnknownSocketError17:56
kimmolihttp://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtbluetooth-pingpong-example.html ??18:01
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swex_kimmoli: no18:15
swex_[D] PingPong::done:314 - Service scan done18:15
swex_no services18:15
swex_I commented: discoveryAgent->setUuidFilter(QBluetoothUuid(serviceUuid));18:16
swex_so I search all services on all devices18:16
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swex_I've got two devices: 1 android 2 sailfish18:33
swex_when sailfish server - everything working18:34
swex_when android server - sailfish cant find any services18:34
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kimmoliswex_: i don't know, your code just looked a bit familiar with that pingpong.18:51
kimmolii could do test between two sailfish devices18:52
swex_kimmoli: please.. if you dont mind18:59
kimmolido you have project somewhere for me?19:10
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caitlindear sirs, I am utterly bloody squee that i have a functionally working app that does what i want and will destroy my battery... now i need a spare dev device to repeatedly destroy and reimage and whatnot. getting hold of a real jolla will surely be unpossible... what might be the best chassis to put a sailfish in to do repeated devving in?19:29
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