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| Ingvix | how do I make it so that different qml file is used in different aspect ratio? | 06:17 |
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| Ingvix | or with what component or what ever do you use for it so I can look into it | 06:18 |
| coderus | you can check Screen.sizeCategory | 06:28 |
| Ingvix | I know how to check it but I don't know how to make it to choose the qml file based on it | 06:39 |
| coderus | if (BIG SCREEN) qml = MyQmlForBigScreen.qml | 06:40 |
| coderus | else if (MEDIUM SCREEN) blah-blah | 06:40 |
| coderus | blah-blah | 06:40 |
| Ingvix | thanks | 06:42 |
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| urjaman | blah blah | 07:01 |
| Ingvix | blah | 07:04 |
| Ingvix | is there an easy way to comment out a block of code | 07:10 |
| Ingvix | and not individually comment every line | 07:10 |
| Ingvix | ah, I found that it's /* */ | 07:12 |
| Ingvix | my if is underlined with red. I wonder what's the problem | 07:37 |
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| Ingvix | Expected a qualified name id | 07:41 |
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| Ingvix | and unexpected token "if" | 07:46 |
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| Acce | something above probably, unended expression, missing braces or similar | 07:52 |
| Ingvix | Am I suppose to be able to just do this inside silicaflicable or is there some sort of trick to it | 07:56 |
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| Ingvix | Can't figure this out | 08:13 |
| Ingvix | Can I even use if statement in object? I need an object fetched from another file | 08:24 |
| Ingvix | *can I even use if statement for objects | 08:25 |
| coderus | only via Loader | 08:25 |
| Ingvix | Okay, I look in to that | 08:25 |
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| Ingvix | in qr documentation it says I need to import QtQuick 2.7. Does sailfish have support for that? By default it's importing 2.0 | 08:29 |
| Ingvix | Or maybe it just works in 2.0 too | 08:30 |
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| coderus | because you looking into qt5.7 docs. use sailfilsh sdk qtcreator f1 help instead | 08:35 |
| Ingvix | okay then | 08:40 |
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| l0nGYear_1 | hi everyone, we are a smartphone manufacturer from China, and we determined to produce a smartphone with the Sailfish OS. I would be grateful if anyone can tell me whom I need to contact | 08:53 |
| taaem | l0nGYear_1: please send an email to partners@sailfishos.org | 08:55 |
| r0kk3rz | their HK address is also on here: https://jolla.com/contact/ | 08:56 |
| l0nGYear_1 | taaem: thank you, but the question is that I had mailed to partners@sailfishos.org but I have got no response。。。 | 08:57 |
| Smar | I’m sure they are overloaded with work so it may take some time for them to answer :) you could try to poke them at the address info@jolla.com to see if it works better? | 08:59 |
| Smar | so they can wake up the person responsible of business relations | 08:59 |
| l0nGYear_1 | Smar: Thank you, i'll try it later. | 09:00 |
| Smar | yup | 09:01 |
| l0nGYear_1 | r0kk3rz: thank you, but its not easy for Chinese to go to HongKong..... | 09:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | it isnt? oh, i didnt know that | 09:05 |
| Smar | r0kk3rz: it’s fairly easier than any other country to move around the world when you’re from finland... :P | 09:07 |
| r0kk3rz | Smar: i havent had any issues so far with my australian passport :) | 09:08 |
| Smar | ah, sorry, I thought you were from here | 09:08 |
| r0kk3rz | l0nGYear_1: maybe you can send them an old fashioned letter and they might pay more attention | 09:09 |
| Smar | but anyway, some countries have quite a bit wider agreements | 09:09 |
| r0kk3rz | who knows what they get through that partnership email | 09:09 |
| Smar | with emails, it’s possible that the mail has been marked as spam for unknown reasons too | 09:09 |
| l0nGYear_1 | r0kk3rz: that's a good idea | 09:10 |
| r0kk3rz | Smar: yes it seems that countries who have fought few wars seem to get good deals with other nations | 09:11 |
| Smar | well, I’d guess it’s more related to politics, we have needed to live between east and west and after the war our solution more or less was to try to maintain proper relations to both directions | 09:12 |
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| Smar | so having mutual agreements for travelling etc. makes sense for that purpose | 09:13 |
| Smar | but uhm... I’ll stop now, sorry for offtopic | 09:13 |
| r0kk3rz | :) | 09:14 |
| r0kk3rz | war is politics with force remember | 09:14 |
| Smar | :> | 09:14 |
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| Xiaoman | r0kk3rz: There is tension between HK and mainland, so there is a lot of bureaucracy for Chinese people to travel over the borders. | 09:15 |
| Xiaoman | Much more than for tourists with prefixed visas. | 09:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | Xiaoman: well that sucks, but i guess its that way because HK want to retain their autonomy | 09:21 |
| Xiaoman | r0kk3rz: Correct. | 09:31 |
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| Ingvix | Do I have to add the "This file is part of..."-comment in every file in my project? | 09:44 |
| Ingvix | If I wish to send it to jolla harbour | 09:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: these are all the rules https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 09:55 |
| Ingvix | okay, thanks | 09:55 |
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| TMavica | l0nGYear_1: Nice, I am HongKonger | 10:31 |
| TMavica | l0nGYear_1: Why not easy? Everyday there is many chinese went to Hong Kong. LOL | 10:33 |
| TMavica | Trevel between Shenzhen and Hong Kong, you knew it. | 10:33 |
| TMavica | o. he gone | 10:35 |
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| m4g0g | hello | 11:26 |
| m4g0g | How I can detect that Page was activated after dialog which was loaded from this page? | 11:27 |
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| dpurgin | m4g0g generally there´s Page.status property, but with dialogs you´d better connect to accepted or rejected signal of the dialog | 11:49 |
| m4g0g | dpurgin: thx | 11:50 |
| coderus | better use callbacks, not connections to dialogs | 11:52 |
| dpurgin | coderus, meaning? | 11:53 |
| dpurgin | Silica reference says: dialog.accepted.connect( function() { ... } ) | 11:54 |
| coderus | Dialog { var callback; ... onAccepted: callback(some1, some2, ...) } | 11:54 |
| dpurgin | what would be the difference? | 11:54 |
| coderus | function afterDialogAccepted(va1, var2, ...) { do something } | 11:55 |
| coderus | pageStack.push("Dialog.qml", { callback: afterDialogAccepted }) | 11:55 |
| coderus | there is a difference in context | 11:55 |
| coderus | there is a big chance you loose context inside your connection after dialog accepted and destroys | 11:56 |
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| dpurgin | could you reliably reproduce the situation? | 11:58 |
| coderus | dpurgin: i can, after i revive my phone :D | 12:00 |
| dpurgin | ok good luck :D | 12:00 |
| coderus | who knew this small piece of code will freeze phone (even ssh not responding) https://gist.github.com/CODeRUS/4e97e2e2a2ae8073f3172d7339ae93ed | 12:00 |
| coderus | nothing responding :D | 12:01 |
| dpurgin | btw I´ve noticed many times on Jolla 1 that sshd is constantly being killed when lacking memory | 12:02 |
| coderus | jolla c here | 12:02 |
| coderus | phone is a zombie now :D | 12:02 |
| dpurgin | I mean, you´ve put an image 1000 times, probably you´ve claimed all the memory, even on 2 GB RAM | 12:03 |
| coderus | sure :) | 12:03 |
| coderus | i mean who knew this may happen :D | 12:03 |
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| coderus | i am now testin fast application startup time, if pages are slow to load | 12:04 |
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| coderus | 50 images also enough to kill phone | 12:05 |
| Ingvix | I'd like to use backspace button icon, how do I do that? | 12:16 |
| coderus | RTFM please: https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/jolla-ambient/ | 12:17 |
| Ingvix | thanks | 12:18 |
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| coderus | dpurgin: hm, maybe sailfishos pagestack works differently than normal qtcontrols pagestack, cant reproduce my problem of sfos :D | 13:16 |
| dpurgin | My guess is that dialog´s refcount is still > 0 when using it in Silica Reference´s way. The closure of the handler contains dialog, so it shouldn´t be destroyed on this stage yet | 13:19 |
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| m4g0g | can I use dconf in my application and pass harbour validation? | 16:37 |
| coderus | via mlite5 only | 16:42 |
| coderus | or bundle libdconf with your package and rpath it | 16:43 |
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| dpurgin | the problem with bundling non-allowed libs to your app is that you might hit dependency explosion pretty soon :D | 16:54 |
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| coderus | why? | 16:57 |
| dpurgin | I wanted to bundle all the libs with the call recorder some time ago, starting from libcontacts and so on. Not only it depends on (multiple) other libs, it also has some non-allowed dependencies with unavailable source code, so I just gave up | 16:59 |
| dpurgin | I can look up later again if you´re interested | 16:59 |
| coderus | well, bundle precompiled libs is fail | 17:02 |
| dpurgin | I´m not sure about portability across the versions | 17:05 |
| dpurgin | Have you tried it? | 17:06 |
| dpurgin | on the other hand, how does it differ from compiling yourself... You might be right! | 17:07 |
| coderus | everything you compile is 100% compatible by-design | 17:08 |
| dpurgin | I´m preparing a feature release now, I guess I´ll try getting to Harbour in Autumn then | 17:09 |
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| coderus | you mean you have an update version now? :) | 17:30 |
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| dpurgin | not yet, but in a week or two, I guess | 18:14 |
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| dpurgin | you can compile the version from master branch though :D | 18:22 |
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| smyru | Is it possible to change screen lock delay from command line? | 18:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | theres probably some kind of MCE voodoo you can do yes | 18:42 |
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| Acou_Bass | eey guys, im running sailfish on my nexus 4, and for the life of me cant figure out why im not getting word suggestions over my keyboard... i could swear they used to be there but i re-flashed recently and theyre gone | 18:47 |
| Acou_Bass | is there someething dumb im missing here? XD | 18:47 |
| r0kk3rz | Acou_Bass: they arent installed by default, but i think you can pkcon them in | 18:48 |
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| Stskeeps | Acou_Bass: the word suggestions are 3rd party closed source | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't come with the ports | 18:49 |
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| Acou_Bass | hmm... i thought i actually did pkcon them already hehe, which package are they part of again? | 18:50 |
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| haasn | I wonder if it's appropriate to abbreviate SailfishOS as SOS, going with the naval theme | 18:54 |
| Acou_Bass | i usually abbreviate it to SFOS | 18:55 |
| Acou_Bass | ahhh, i found the keyboard packages! jolla-xt9 and jolla-xt9-cp | 18:59 |
| Acou_Bass | working now, cheers guys! | 18:59 |
| Acou_Bass | and even works with OKkeyboard :) happy with that | 19:00 |
| r0kk3rz | haasn: SOS kinda sends the wrong message though | 19:04 |
| Acou_Bass | sailfish, save our souls from the evil Android overlords, sounds good to me ;) | 19:04 |
| r0kk3rz | save our smartphones | 19:05 |
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| tbr | r0kk3rz: well, the boat is sure in some rough seas... | 19:31 |
| haasn | r0kk3rz: that's the joke | 19:36 |
| r0kk3rz | oh it fits for sure | 19:42 |
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| brrm | after my N900 broke I bought a fairphone2. the phone is nice, but the OS does not provide an SSH server which enables me to mount the sdcard or internal storage with sufficient rights to copy audio files to the phone and listen to them. | 20:57 |
| brrm | my spouse own an jolla and I know this works there as it did on the N900 | 20:57 |
| brrm | I would like to use sailfishOS on the fp2, but I read that the community port comes without android emulation | 20:58 |
| brrm | this means I cannot install and use android apps, right? | 20:58 |
| FireFly | Right | 20:58 |
| FireFly | AFAIK alien dalvik is only licensed for the jolla1 devices | 20:59 |
| brrm | so I cannot buy it? | 20:59 |
| brrm | I mean a alien dalvik user license - not a jolla - I know they are out of stock :( | 21:01 |
| brrm | is there a commercial version of SailfishOS which includes alien dalvik? | 21:04 |
| FireFly | I dunno | 21:05 |
| tbr | no | 21:05 |
| brrm | this is bad | 21:06 |
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| r0kk3rz | brrm: its been said that its in the works for some time now | 22:07 |
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| Poire | Hello everyone ! | 22:20 |
| Poire | I want to try to develop an app for sailfish OS (I know a bit of python, C++ and qt). But I don't want to use QtCreator, what do I need to start developing ? | 22:21 |
| Poire | Moreover do I have to use VBox ? I prefer qemu ^^"' | 22:23 |
| FireFly | You can start the virtualbox headless and ssh to it | 22:29 |
| FireFly | that's what I did | 22:29 |
| FireFly | I sort of never got around to develop for sailfish, but uh | 22:29 |
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| FireFly | http://xen.firefly.nu/up/mersdk.html I hacked up this shellscript at some point for managing the vbox | 22:30 |
| FireFly | requires you to setup 'mersdk' in .ssh/config as an alias with the right username/ssh key etc | 22:31 |
| Poire | That is a cool script ! | 22:36 |
| Poire | But I have an important question : is it possible to "receive" a false phone call in the VM ? | 22:37 |
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| philip | Hello all | 23:28 |
| philip | Sorry to intrude but I have a question about Jolla / Sailfish | 23:29 |
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| philip | Hello? | 23:35 |
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| FireFly | I guess most people are asleep seeing as it's 01:30 | 23:37 |
| FireFly | well, err, 02:30 in Finland | 23:37 |
| philip | Haha | 23:38 |
| philip | Yes, of course | 23:38 |
| philip | Im in the UK - only 12.40 here | 23:38 |
| philip | Are you in Finland? | 23:38 |
| FireFly | Nope, sweden | 23:39 |
| philip | oh lovely | 23:40 |
| philip | I really want to visit sweden | 23:40 |
| philip | I am Irish but i am working in the UK since last year | 23:40 |
| FireFly | Ah neat | 23:41 |
| philip | Well, it's ok | 23:41 |
| FireFly | Ireland is quite pretty | 23:41 |
| philip | Thank you | 23:41 |
| philip | I miss it | 23:41 |
| philip | Have you been? | 23:41 |
| FireFly | Yep, went to a wedding there once | 23:42 |
| philip | Great - do you remember which part you visited? | 23:42 |
| FireFly | and visited some other parts.. Dublin and southern Ireland | 23:42 |
| FireFly | Hm, let's see | 23:42 |
| philip | Ah - I am a Dub | 23:42 |
| philip | I hope you had a Guinness | 23:43 |
| FireFly | Hehe, nope | 23:43 |
| philip | No!!! | 23:43 |
| FireFly | I was something like 13 or so back then | 23:43 |
| philip | Oh, dear | 23:43 |
| philip | hahaha | 23:43 |
| philip | ok | 23:43 |
| philip | Well, that is a good thing, then :) | 23:43 |
| philip | Next time ... | 23:44 |
| FireFly | and actually I'm terribly boring and don't drink, so I wouldn't if I visited today either, hehe | 23:44 |
| FireFly | well maybe I'd taste a bit | 23:44 |
| philip | Wow | 23:44 |
| FireFly | just because | 23:44 |
| philip | hehehe | 23:44 |
| philip | What part of Sweden do you live in? | 23:44 |
| FireFly | Stockholm | 23:44 |
| philip | I am in Leeds, UK | 23:44 |
| philip | Oh - beautiful | 23:44 |
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| philip | I want to visit Sweden and see a few places | 23:45 |
| philip | Obviously Ystad, for the Wallander tour | 23:45 |
| philip | :) | 23:45 |
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| FireFly | Hehe | 23:46 |
| philip | I think Krister Henrikksen is a great actor | 23:46 |
| FireFly | Ystad is quite pretty, good beach too by the sea | 23:46 |
| philip | Sorry, awful spelling | 23:46 |
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| philip | Yes, I saw that - the beach looks beautiful and a bit wild (weather wise) | 23:46 |
| FireFly | Hehe, well as an Ire in the UK I guess mixed/wild weather isn't particularly foreign | 23:49 |
| philip | Haha | 23:49 |
| philip | No - I am well used to the wind and rain | 23:49 |
| philip | Do you use a Jolla 'phone? | 23:50 |
| philip | I am considering getting one | 23:50 |
| FireFly | Yep, I do | 23:51 |
| FireFly | I don't think one can buy their first device anymore though? | 23:51 |
| FireFly | not sure | 23:51 |
| FireFly | I think #jollamobile might be a better place to ask for jolla's devices as a company btw | 23:52 |
| philip | I saw that on the site -- it was talking about the "C" model, but that seems to be gone also | 23:52 |
| FireFly | I think this channel is supposed to be more for the software side | 23:52 |
| FireFly | Ah | 23:52 |
| FireFly | I don't know anything about the C device | 23:52 |
| philip | Actually my question related to the OS | 23:52 |
| FireFly | mhm, maybe I can answer | 23:53 |
| philip | Are you a developer / techie? | 23:53 |
| FireFly | not with regard to sailfish at all | 23:53 |
| FireFly | but I am a programmer otherwise | 23:53 |
| FireFly | well, student | 23:53 |
| philip | Thank you -- I am increasingly concerned about privacy/security and I know they were planning to make a privacy hardened version of the Jolla phone | 23:53 |
| philip | Cool | 23:53 |
| philip | Wish I could programme | 23:54 |
| FireFly | Hmm | 23:54 |
| FireFly | I haven't heard anything about that, but then again I don't pay all that much attention to jolla.. | 23:54 |
| philip | I was wondering if they have secured the OS for privacy | 23:54 |
| FireFly | dunno :\ | 23:54 |
| philip | Oh - fair enough | 23:54 |
| philip | Do you find the 'phone good to use? | 23:54 |
| FireFly | eh, it works | 23:56 |
| philip | hahaha | 23:56 |
| philip | Good to know | 23:56 |
| FireFly | I mean it does what I need it to do :p | 23:56 |
| philip | Cool | 23:56 |
| philip | It looks great | 23:56 |
| FireFly | call/SMS, browse the web, play music, and with at least their first device also having the android compat layer it means android apps mostly work | 23:57 |
| philip | I use cyanogen OS | 23:57 |
| philip | Do android apps work well on it? | 23:57 |
| FireFly | depends on the app | 23:59 |
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