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| zGrr | moin ;) | 07:12 |
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| larstiq | r0kk3rz: no | 07:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | larstiq: thats a shame | 07:45 |
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| Ingvix | was the system partition 28 in jolla? | 09:53 |
| Ingvix | or was it 27... | 09:55 |
| till | 28 | 09:56 |
| Ingvix | okay, thanks | 09:57 |
| till | /dev/mmcblk0p28 to be precise | 09:57 |
| Ingvix | yes | 09:58 |
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| Ingvix | hmm | 10:10 |
| Ingvix | I extracted my whole system back up tar file to mmcblk0p28 but the phone boots a factory reset system | 10:11 |
| Ingvix | should've I unmount it for changes to be permanent or what went wrong? | 10:13 |
| till | how did you do that? via dd in recovery mode? | 10:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Ingvix, doesn't work ... is better to dd the real factory one | 10:15 |
| till | i would be careful restoring a full system just by untaring | 10:16 |
| Ingvix | coderus' advice for whole system back up | 10:16 |
| Ingvix | what's this dd? | 10:16 |
| Ingvix | and I tried to do it in recovery, yes | 10:17 |
| till | dd is disk dump(afaik), allows you to copy partitions and stuff | 10:17 |
| till | on a binary level, without caring about file systems and stuff | 10:18 |
| Ingvix | okay | 10:18 |
| Ingvix | I just mounted the system partition and tried to tar it there | 10:18 |
| Ingvix | from sdcard | 10:19 |
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| Ingvix | if that doesn't work, is there a way to use the tar to recover my old system configs? | 10:19 |
| till | you could pick and copy files manually, but that looks very complicated | 10:20 |
| Ingvix | yes | 10:20 |
| till | the problem is, if you have the paritition mounted, there could be other partitions/folders mounted inside as well. i prefer to copy/backup a non-active system instead of an "alive" one | 10:21 |
| till | to get clean backups | 10:22 |
| Ingvix | so can I do that anyway anymore? | 10:22 |
| till | I guess your best bet is to extract your personal data, do a clean recover and then copy only the important files back | 10:24 |
| Ingvix | If I were to backup the whole system later for some reason, how would that be done successfully? | 10:31 |
| Ingvix | so that I could easily recover it | 10:32 |
| till | i would probably boot into recovery, mount the sd-card and dd /dev/mmcblk0p28 onto it | 10:32 |
| till | maybe pipe it through gzip to save writes and space | 10:33 |
| Ingvix | oh, wish I knew that before | 10:33 |
| till | but for my backup, i make two tar.gz archives, one for /home/nemo and one for /data/data and /data/media, and hope that covers all my sailfish and android data :) | 10:34 |
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| Ingvix | I would've like to get my patches as well | 10:41 |
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| till | I would just reinstall them cleanly | 10:51 |
| till | you can dump a list to a textfile to remember which one you had installed | 10:51 |
| Ingvix | Well yes | 10:53 |
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| Ingvix | where are the patches located in the system so I can look from my failed backup what did I have | 11:22 |
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| urjaman | there's the deal with subvolumes that if you're not aware you might've tar'd just the default / (i think) | 11:37 |
| urjaman | (not @home they use for home) ... OTOH, if you mount the subvolid 0, you can just see them all as folders... | 11:37 |
| urjaman | thus, dd to a PC is best backup | 11:39 |
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| MoritzJT | Hi! | 14:51 |
| MoritzJT | Downloading the new early access update to my Jolla 1. Made the mistake of doing a backup in parallel. | 14:51 |
| MoritzJT | I can't swipe it away. Who designed this? | 14:51 |
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| Ingvix | I just signed for early access, should the early access updates be available right away? | 15:33 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: no, might take an hour or something | 15:34 |
| Ingvix | okay | 15:35 |
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| pketo | Ingvix: the early access registration is broken at the moment | 16:08 |
| Ingvix | pketo, you know how long might it take before it's fixed? | 16:09 |
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| pketo | hopefully tomorrow | 16:11 |
| Ingvix | cool | 16:12 |
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| coderus | unapply all patches; ssu re 2.0.2.51; vversion --dup | 16:14 |
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| julian_brooks | hi all, newb irc user here. can i ask if anyone knows how to log irc chats? I'm on jollaC with the 'irc' app. regards to all and thanks in advance | 17:40 |
| pketo | Ingvix: actually it should be working now, could you check for updates? | 17:43 |
| r0kk3rz | still breaking the store then pketo? | 17:46 |
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| julian_brooks | just spotted the above tinyurl log. like that locally would be perfect | 17:48 |
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| FireFly | julian_brooks: no idea if that app does any logging.. | 17:49 |
| FireFly | most desktop clients do, though | 17:49 |
| FireFly | You could ask in #communi maybe (I think the 'IRC' app is Communi anyway?) | 17:49 |
| pketo | r0kk3rz: heh :) not really breaking the store yet... some things were just stuck for stupid reasons :) | 17:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | pketo: i look forward to seeing the upgrades :) | 17:51 |
| julian_brooks | hey firefly, thanx for info. I'll dig round for another jolla one that'll log. not near a desktop.atm and could do with a copy of the chat with supervisor in a couple of hours. cheers | 17:51 |
| FireFly | huh, on IRC eh | 17:53 |
| julian_brooks | pketo: i can't get 'allow developer updates' to work. is this whats broken? | 17:54 |
| r0kk3rz | julian_brooks: thats not Early Access, is something else | 17:55 |
| julian_brooks | FireFly: yep, phd thesis stuff. logs super useful:) | 17:55 |
| r0kk3rz | julian_brooks: for IRC most of us either use the native client, or weechat/irssi + mosh in fingerterm | 17:55 |
| julian_brooks | haven't heard of those, will dig. I'm on native client atm | 17:57 |
| r0kk3rz | they're command line IRC programs, best used with some kind of VPS | 17:57 |
| julian_brooks | r0kk3rz: oh, ok, sorry. What is it? | 17:57 |
| urjaman | that what was described involves a server somewhere to run the weechat/irssi, but you could also run one of them on the device, atleast if you can compile them | 17:58 |
| r0kk3rz | julian_brooks: developer updates, ie. *jolla* developer updates | 17:58 |
| urjaman | need to check if warehouse has either of them ... | 17:58 |
| julian_brooks | r0kk3rz: thank you. so jolla employees then | 17:59 |
| r0kk3rz | more or less yeah | 17:59 |
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| urjaman | (nope...) | 18:00 |
| julian_brooks | hmmm, setting up cl apps sounds tricky in the hour I've got spare | 18:01 |
| julian_brooks | urjaman: thanks for checking | 18:01 |
| r0kk3rz | they have their benefits, like easy switching between desktop and mobile | 18:02 |
| r0kk3rz | but it is a typical linux nerd way to doing things, using 6 different programs in concert for a solution | 18:03 |
| urjaman | and 5 computers | 18:04 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 18:04 |
| r0kk3rz | julian_brooks: i guess a more friendly way would be to use matrix.org | 18:05 |
| r0kk3rz | its webbased, and has an irc bridge | 18:05 |
| julian_brooks | :) indeed - sometimes the 'do one thing well' as a design ethic has its flaws | 18:05 |
| julian_brooks | that sounds useful, will check it. nothing in warehouse for irc and I'd rather not android. so yeah browser based makes sense | 18:07 |
| julian_brooks | thanks peeps, I'm liking this community | 18:08 |
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| Ingvix | pketo, says proxy connection refused at least for me now | 18:38 |
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| Ingvix | pketo, I was wrong. I tried to enable developer updates from developer settings but I guess that's some other thing. When I checked updates normally, it gave me the latest early access update | 18:42 |
| urjaman | Ingvix: yeah thats the jolla internal devs thing, not for normals | 18:43 |
| Ingvix | okay, yea | 18:43 |
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| urjaman | not trying to say jolla people arent normal or something :P | 18:44 |
| urjaman | (asterisks on everything ...) | 18:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | urjaman: the ones ive met certainly arent normal :P | 19:15 |
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| pketo | heh :) | 19:37 |
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| Ingvix | hopefully there's nothing utterly wrong with aurajoki. Gotta download it so I can conveniently get patches from warehouse that has newest version only supporting the latest system version | 19:59 |
| r0kk3rz | its fine, get on it | 19:59 |
| Ingvix | I planned that I set up my phone first as it was before repair and get a working backup from that | 20:00 |
| urjaman | yeah everything i needed seems to work :P | 20:00 |
| Ingvix | before updating | 20:00 |
| r0kk3rz | or wait another week i guess | 20:00 |
| Ingvix | there gonna be a regural update soon? | 20:01 |
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| Ingvix | has the visual side changed at all? | 20:03 |
| Ingvix | If I remember correctly this version has a build in screenshot function with the physical buttons | 20:04 |
| r0kk3rz | it seems stable enough for a regular update next week | 20:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | the release notes are on tjc for specifics | 20:05 |
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| Ingvix | how do I install something ignoring dependencies | 20:43 |
| Ingvix | with pkcon | 20:44 |
| Ingvix | or some other way | 20:44 |
| Ingvix | ignoring its dependencies* | 20:46 |
| koffeinfriedhof | pkcon install-local /path/to/downloaded-package | 20:47 |
| koffeinfriedhof | if thats matching your needs | 20:47 |
| Ingvix | oh, so it doesn't require dependencies when installing locally? | 20:48 |
| koffeinfriedhof | depencies itself cannot (should not) be ignored, because it would result in nothing but a broken package | 20:48 |
| Ingvix | In this case I mean system version | 20:49 |
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| Ingvix | it only allows installing to 2.0.1 but I believe it might work on 2.0.2 too | 20:49 |
| koffeinfriedhof | which dependencies are missing? | 20:50 |
| Ingvix | conflicts with sailfish-version > 2.0.1 provided by sailfish-version-2.0.2-10.35.51.jolla.noarch | 20:50 |
| koffeinfriedhof | If you wanna try, you should self-compile the sourcecod | 20:50 |
| Ingvix | sounds like something I don't wanna try for the first time in a tired mood | 20:51 |
| koffeinfriedhof | try it after sleep :) | 20:51 |
| Ingvix | I might | 20:51 |
| divansantana | noob q: whats the diff between pkcon and zypper on sailfish/jolla? | 20:52 |
| divansantana | and should one install warehouse+openrepos on jollac? | 20:52 |
| Ingvix | one should | 20:53 |
| koffeinfriedhof | Ingvix: for a quick and dirty try you may force it using rpm with --force and --nodeps. But on your own risk :) | 20:55 |
| koffeinfriedhof | force will overwrite old package-files (if any) and nodeps skips verifying dependencies | 20:56 |
| Ingvix | I'll try that | 20:59 |
| koffeinfriedhof | good luck :) | 21:00 |
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| Ingvix | nope, that patch won't work with this, it seems | 21:03 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: either update or be patient, its not that hard :P | 21:04 |
| Ingvix | I am patient | 21:05 |
| Ingvix | it's not that important patch. More saddening was when unlock to last app and return to last app from eventsview didn't work | 21:06 |
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| Ingvix | It's sort of funny how imperfect sailfish actually might feel without the patches you're use to | 21:10 |
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| divansantana | Getting "general communication problem" on my jolla C when opening the jolla store. Not sure if it's the store issue or because I installed warehouse app. Anyone have any idea what I can try | 21:28 |
| Ingvix | warehouse probably has nothing to do with it | 21:29 |
| divansantana | Ingvix: oh that's good :) I'll check again in the morn. It worked a while back. | 21:32 |
| pketo | divansantana: update jolla account in the settings | 21:33 |
| divansantana | pketo: checking thanks | 21:34 |
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| pketo | if that does not help, then I'm not sure what might be the problem | 21:36 |
| divansantana | pketo: ok getting an SSL connection issue when I delete and recreate my jolla account | 21:36 |
| divansantana | pketo: guessing I broke SSL on my phone as root, eish. | 21:36 |
| divansantana | lol | 21:36 |
| divansantana | tried to follow this to import my root CA https://together.jolla.com/question/2949/where-can-i-add-a-system-ca-certificate/ | 21:37 |
| pketo | yeah.. that could possibly break it | 21:37 |
| divansantana | did the following | 21:37 |
| divansantana | cd /etc/pki/tls/certs/ ; pkgcon install openssl | 21:38 |
| divansantana | ln -s ca-cert-root.pem $( openssl x509 -hash -noout -in ca-cert-root.pem )".0" | 21:38 |
| divansantana | it didn't work in the end either | 21:39 |
| divansantana | *really* should have backed up that dir... | 21:39 |
| divansantana | should know better... | 21:39 |
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| divansantana | don't know pkcon very well. How can I query and recreate that dir? | 21:46 |
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| divansantana | someone do a `ls -l /etc/pki/tls/certs` plz? :) | 21:57 |
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