Thursday, 2016-10-27

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vilvahi, where in jolla c device does fastboot actually place the boot.img file?10:45
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coderusthere is no boot.img, there is hybris-boot..img11:05
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vilvayeah, but the /boot/*boot.img does not seem to be the one running11:14
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vilvaso the real one is somewhere else11:19
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coderusmaybe it's not distributed due to qualcomm?11:21
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coderusbut to my knowledge hybris-boot.img should be one flashed to boot11:27
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vilvawhat i can see from /proc such as cmdline, it is not the one in /boot11:32
coderuswhat is in proc?11:33
vilvaok, but at least the stuff i know to extract from /proc make the appearance that it is the image i compiled11:35
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vilvaso, i guess it is ok11:40
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Ultra_DuckZdoes sailfish have sdl2?13:43
r0kk3rzheh13:45
r0kk3rzkinda13:45
r0kk3rzsdl2 is a bit of a long story13:45
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Ultra_DuckZjust wondering, I'm making a simple gdr-like demo and I've literally just started https://mondiaspora.net/posts/84904813:46
r0kk3rzafaik this is still relevant https://together.jolla.com/question/109036/bug11928-sdl2-is-still-broken/13:46
Ultra_DuckZso if it's technically possible and anybody wants to jump in and make it build on sf, it should be easy enough, since there is not much code13:47
Ultra_DuckZhmm I have no audio yet, but the rest can be a problem13:48
mal-proper orientation handling in sdl is still missing so making apps in a little bit of a problem13:51
mal-I mean it doesn't get the info from wayland or something13:51
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r0kk3rzafaiu jolla made fixes, and submitted them upstream where they havent been merged13:52
mal-yes13:52
r0kk3rzjolla has a policy of not rolling out changes until upstream accepts them13:52
Ultra_DuckZas far as my demo is concerned, it can be made landscape-only13:52
Ultra_DuckZso sdl2 dudes fell asleep before they could accept the pull request?13:53
mal-https://bugzilla.libsdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294313:54
merbotbugzilla.libsdl.org bug 2943 in video "Support for QtWayland content orientation and window flags via SDL hints" [Normal,Waiting]13:54
mal-looks like there is life in that bug, they want to get updated patch13:54
Ultra_DuckZ Sam Lantinga 2016-10-08 00:12:56 UTC   ---> sdl2 dude wakes up13:55
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Ultra_DuckZI hate it so much when open source projects let patches rot for years and then suddenly pop back again complaining because it doesn't apply cleanly anymore13:56
mal-I'm thinking if I should update the patch or wait for someone else to update it13:57
r0kk3rzmal-: maybe bring it up in the meeting to see if anyone from jolla is on top of it13:58
Ultra_DuckZnot sure if it was sdl, but I submitted a simple patch to some graphic library, the authors ignored me for 1 or 2 years, in the meantime I gave up on using their library and forgot about it, and then they started pestering me on if I could re-do the patch because they couldn't merge it cleanly anymore13:58
r0kk3rzUltra_DuckZ: many things commonly used are built by like 2-3 people, who probably did it as a hobby13:58
Ultra_DuckZand I was like lol sure - what was the problem again?13:58
mal-r0kk3rz: i already pinged sledges about that, maybe he'll talk to some other people at jolla about that13:58
Ultra_DuckZr0kk3rz: then just accept the patches!13:59
r0kk3rzmal-: lets poke a few more people shall we...14:01
mal-after that I could make the scummvm sailfish port clean14:02
sledgesmal-: fell between the cracks, ping me weekly, and then daily ;)14:03
covoxinterestingly qtwayland doesn't give you a rotated framebuffer14:04
covoxyou still have to do that part yourself14:04
mal-yes, but you can at least know the orientation or at least tell the wayland system which orientation you are using so the UI gesture work correctly14:05
covoxsame with rotating all of the touch input coordinates14:05
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deryahhi14:43
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deryahhi17:38
deryahjust got an onyx17:38
deryahfirst step would be to install CM, but throughout the whole thing what are the common mistakes that i should look out for and not do?17:39
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TheKitI'd probably just flash CM recovery and follow CM install guide17:49
TheKit*custom recovery17:49
deryahdo i need an SD card for that17:50
deryahi don't need one right17:51
TheKityou don't17:52
deryahbut would it be better/safer to use one?18:00
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deryahTheKit: but would it be better/safer to use one?18:03
TheKitdoesn't matter18:04
deryahTheKit: once i install sailfish os, i can also add an SD at any time if i want to?18:06
TheKityes18:06
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deryahTheKit: Does sailfish have a maximum capacity for SD cards? Also, it will match the write speed of the card?18:16
TheKitshould be the same with Android18:17
TheKitOnePlus X specs say "up to 128 GB", just in case18:19
deryahthanks for the heads up18:19
deryahis it possible to backup absolutely everything on my phone once i install sailfish?18:20
deryahincluding apps18:20
r0kk3rzderyah: you might have some fun with exfat formatted sd cards18:20
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deryahexfat has larger memory potential?18:22
r0kk3rzyes18:23
r0kk3rzbigger sdcards come formatted with exfat as standard18:23
deryahalso, is there some kind of desktop client foor sailfish(something like Syncios)?18:23
deryahoh cool18:24
deryah*for18:24
r0kk3rzi think there was one, but its not that important18:24
r0kk3rzbecause its linux, loads of stuff 'just works'18:24
deryahthat is awesome18:25
deryahthough,  if i want to backup my phone's data, how should i do it18:25
r0kk3rztheres a backup function18:27
r0kk3rzor you can rsync / scp whole directories18:27
r0kk3rzor dd image the entire phone18:28
deryahdd image?18:28
deryahi am new to linux lol18:28
r0kk3rzits a command utility which does low level disk stuff18:28
r0kk3rzbut in general the backup function works well enough18:28
deryahit backs up everything including apps?18:29
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deryahand SMSs?18:29
r0kk3rznot sure about apps, but sms's im fairly sure18:30
deryahi see18:30
deryahany way to backup apps then?18:30
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deryahTheKit:18:32
r0kk3rzive never felt the need myself18:33
TheKitapps are installed from rpm packages18:34
TheKitso no easy way to backup already installed apps, but you can download and keep rpm packages themselves if you really need it for some reason18:35
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deryahTheKit: is there a "notes" app? can i backup the notes?18:57
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