Saturday, 2017-02-04

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paulvtsledges: hey! did you manage to book the BoF room/slot?10:49
sledgespaulvt: hi! yes, 15:00 room H.3228 (like last year), finally sitting in cafeteria so can update TJC ;)10:51
paulvtok, great... also sitting in the cateria10:51
sledgesbest place to be, not many interesting talks (or probably I say so because Nokius brough a bunch of devices to hadk :D)10:52
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paulvt:)10:55
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dr_gogeta86sledges: i'm from remote11:03
dr_gogeta86but with you11:03
dr_gogeta86sledges: got the zuk z211:04
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SfietKonstantinSNokius: how many devices do yiu havz11:29
dr_gogeta86i think too much11:31
saidinesh5cancro, find5, find7, probably jolla C and Jolla 1...11:32
dr_gogeta86:-)11:32
SfietKonstantinS:D11:32
Nokiuscancro (mi4) find5 find7s r7plus socrpion spark11:33
Nokiusplus Jollas :P11:33
sledges:D11:34
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malNokius: and I thought I have many devices :)11:42
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Nokius:)12:02
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paulvtsledges: still there?13:37
paulvtit seems that the BoF room confusingly bears a large sign H.3.244 too13:38
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sledgespaulvt: they've been renumbered on the door, the label that reads BoF has the right room13:44
paulvtyes, I notified the infodesk about this.. they came and made pictures of the signage :P13:44
sledgesthanks!:)13:50
paulvtwe might be just across the corridor of each other13:50
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tadzikoh-oh, it's staritng13:57
paulvtnow it is14:00
paulvt:P14:00
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pketowhere is the stream?14:01
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paulvt15:30 I believe14:02
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tadzikIs it the 3rd floor?14:04
paulvtno, second floor14:04
paulvtfollow the BoF signs14:04
paulvtit has also an additional bigger sign H.322414:05
paulvtfor confusional reasons14:05
tadzik...aight14:05
tadzikNot 244? :)14:06
tadzik(found you)14:07
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Mister_Magisterwhy webpages in QtWebKit are in desktop style instead of mobile style?14:28
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ElleoMister_Magister: lots of websites aren't very good and use the user agent to determine whether to show a mobile version or not (instead of using something sensible like the display size), so you'll need to add the word "Android" to your user-agent to get them to behave15:35
leszekor Mobile usually is enough15:36
Mister_MagisterElleo: thanks i got it already. Do you know how can i disable links in Webview or redirect them to sailfish browser?15:37
tadzikonNavigationRequested, perhaps?15:38
Mister_Magisterleszek: are you from poland maybe?15:38
Mister_Magistertadzik: thanks!15:38
leszeknope15:38
tadzikMister_Magister: (I am :P)15:38
Mister_Magistertadzik: i see :D15:38
leszekMister_Magister: navigationrequest and ignore is buggy15:38
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leszekuse it in lls video player. it actually does not work to stop loading the link :P15:39
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Mister_Magisterleszek: it stops my first page loading hmmm :D15:39
tadzikMister_Magister: https://github.com/tadzik/harbour-bootyhunter/blob/master/qml/pages/OAuthPage.qml#L22 is how I do it15:39
tadziknot sure if it fits your usecase15:39
Mister_Magisterbut if i ant to load page and then block all links?15:40
tadzikyou can create a userjs that drops all the hrefs :P15:41
Mister_Magistertadzik: That is idea! Thank you!15:42
Mister_MagisterI'm web developer so that's not the problem. thanks for hint everybody :)15:43
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Mister_Magistercan somebody give me idea how can i open link in sailfish browser from qt?15:44
Mister_Magisteror source :V15:45
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leszekQt.openurlexternally Mister_Magister15:45
Mister_Magisterthanks again15:46
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Mister_Magisterone more questions. Scrollbars inside webpage don't show so if content is higher than screen you cannot scroll it :/16:00
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leszekMister_Magister: can you give me an example page so I can check it on webcat to see if it works there16:01
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Mister_Magisterleszek: sure i have prfect example16:02
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Mister_Magisterbut you will have mobile wiev instead of desktop probably16:03
leszekyep16:03
leszekas for the issue itself. I know that there was an experimental option (though not sure it is exposed to qml) which allows scrolling inside of webpages16:04
leszekmaybe it was webkit116:04
Mister_Magisterhmmm i have to find that16:04
leszekblackberry fixed that also in their qtwebkit based browser though this is using webkit1 aswell (as the os is qt4 based)16:05
Mister_Magisterit's weird because on sailfish browser the same webpage opens in mobile view but on webview it opens in desktop even with the same mobile agent16:06
leszekMister_Magister: did you open the website before you changed the agent ? Then it might saved the page to load in its cookie16:07
Mister_Magistercan't i just use sailfish webkit?16:07
Mister_Magisterhmm then i have to clear cookies somehow16:07
leszeksailfish webkit ? whats that ? :P16:08
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Mister_Magisterdunno :D i mean the same as sailfish browser16:08
leszeksailfish browser uses the gecko engine (same as firefox)16:08
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leszekyou can use it and jolla began exposing it as api (still not complete though) but it is not allowed for harbour (jolla store)16:09
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Mister_Magisterthen better way is to fix that webview16:10
leszekno one is really working on it16:10
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leszekI backported some stuff to qtwebkit already for my webcat browser and testing16:10
leszekthough with every sailfish update it gets replaced16:10
leszekbut qt 5.6 is coming to sailfishos so at least some issues like leaking memory for loading images and such will be fixed with it16:11
Mister_Magisterleszek: can i somehow fix that ebview to use mobile view?16:11
Mister_Magisterdo you have any idea?16:11
leszekyou said you are using the same user agent16:12
leszekdid you tried removing the cookie already ?16:12
leszek*did you try removing16:12
Mister_Magisternope i don't know how. reinstall app?16:13
leszekif its your own app and you have a device with ssh remove its config16:13
kimmoliare you using SilicaWebView or something else?16:14
Mister_Magisteri have app just with that webview. where i can find that config (sorry for noob questions)16:14
Mister_Magisterthis one16:14
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Mister_Magisteri mean silicaWebView16:15
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leszek~/.local/share/harbour-appname16:16
kimmoliCookies should be under $XDG_CACHE_HOME/<HARBOUR_APP_NAME>/.QtWebKit16:16
leszekyep exactly16:16
Mister_MagisterThanks i found it16:19
Mister_Magisterthat did not helped i still have desktop style16:19
leszekso the user agent is the same but you still get the desktop style ?16:20
leszekthen maybe the website is looking for device pixel ratio the browser sends16:20
leszekas qtwebkit does always send 1.0 (if not defined in plattform otherwise but sailfishos did not change that) it might then think it is a normal desktop like device and load the normal desktop site16:21
Mister_Magisteryep. about pixel ratio i have that <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width; initial-scale=1; maximum-scale=1; user-scalable=no;target-densitydpi=72;" />16:21
leszekwhere do you have that on the website itself ?16:22
Mister_Magisteryes16:22
leszekBtw. what are you trying to do anyways. ? What app is it ?16:22
Mister_Magisteri can change scale to 1.5 then i have mobile view but i can't scroll16:23
Mister_Magisteri have html5 game and i want to make sfos game with that :D So just WebView fullscreen and load webpage16:23
leszekyeah bad idea in general in my opinion as the webkit in sailfishos is not optimized for wayland and so the rendering is done by cpu only basically which is not optimal especially for games (and also for scrolling big sites)16:24
Mister_Magisterleszek: it's not heavy game :V16:25
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leszekthe scrolling is a bug. Not sure it can be fixed from your side16:25
Mister_Magistercan i put webView inside somethink scrollable and then scoll all webpage?16:26
leszekas for device pixel ratio I have a hack for this done in javascript that just overwrites the viewport options of every website as a workaround16:26
Mister_Magisterleszek: give me :v16:27
leszekwebview itself is scrollable. But I thought the issue is something like a list or forum comment etc. on the page is not scrollable16:27
Mister_Magisteroh :/16:27
leszekMister_Magister: https://github.com/llelectronics/webcat/blob/master/qml/pages/helper/devicePixelRatioHack.js16:28
Mister_Magisterso then my idea is dead. thanks for help anyway16:28
leszekMister_Magister: if the html5 game is from you can't you just port it to qml ?16:29
Mister_Magisterit's not from me (opensource :V) but that is good idea anyway :V16:30
Mister_Magistertake a look https://github.com/particle-clicker/particle-clicker/16:30
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Mister_Magistersailfish don't have many games so i though that would be easy way of making one :V16:33
leszekMister_Magister: the game runs fine in webcat. Why do you need to scroll or what is the issue with scrolling ?16:33
Mister_Magisterdo you have mobile view?16:33
leszekthere are some games for sailfishos16:33
leszekyep16:33
leszekjust needed to rotate my device to landscape16:33
Mister_Magisterthen when content inside that 3 cars is larger than screen i can't scroll it16:34
leszektried it but never had more than 316:35
leszekon upgrades it just removed the previous ones16:35
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leszekon research tab I only see 116:35
leszekand HR only two16:35
Mister_Magisterit taek some time to have more16:35
Mister_Magister:D16:35
Mister_Magistertake*16:35
leszekah ok16:36
leszekyeah the help messages can't be scrolled :/16:36
leszeksome kind of bad design of the game unfortunately I guess as it does not use normal "scrolling" stuff16:36
Mister_Magisteri can make my own clicker don't you think? :V16:36
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Mister_Magisteri think that will be better. Thanks for help anyway leszek16:39
Mister_MagisterI have seen only one good game for sfos16:40
leszekand that is16:40
leszek?16:40
Mister_Magister210716:40
Mister_MagisterxD16:40
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leszeksaildash and snake are also good games16:41
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leszekand the most addicting is heebo16:41
Mister_Magisterare they available in warehouse?16:42
saidinesh5yeah heebo ruined my productivity for a while there16:42
kimmolio/16:42
Mister_Magistergameboy emulator is good too :D16:42
leszekMister_Magister: I think I got them from the jolla store16:43
Mister_Magisterso that's why i don't have them :D16:43
Mister_Magisterwaiting for jolla store for ports since year16:44
kimmoliits there now16:44
Mister_Magisterkimmoli: btw are you at work?16:44
kimmolialt-tabbing irc/b-movie16:44
Mister_Magisterreally?16:44
Mister_Magisterkimmoli: oh :/ I need you :D16:45
Mister_Magistersailfishos IDE should have updated qt creator :D16:46
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