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| anasofoz | Hello guys, is this group active or not? | 11:59 |
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| tbr | http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | 12:00 |
| anasofoz | i definitely followwd rule 5.Try to find an answer by inspection or experimentation. | 12:02 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: you looked that the channel logs? | 12:04 |
| anasofoz | There is an app called Quasarmx in the jolla store, it is a nice music player, but I noticed that they aren't using silica UI components, but rather a unique style that looks the same on android.... does anyone know how were they able to do that? | 12:06 |
| tbr | ah, the real question! | 12:07 |
| anasofoz | r0kk3rz, tbr: I am sorry, I am new to irc | 12:07 |
| coderus | anasofoz: how? what is the question exactly? | 12:07 |
| anasofoz | I thought that it is not possible to use different widget style on SFOS other than Silica | 12:09 |
| anasofoz | but apparently I was wrong | 12:09 |
| coderus | in QML you can do everything you can imagine | 12:09 |
| tbr | silica is just the preferred component set | 12:10 |
| tbr | you can just bundle your own | 12:10 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: a few apps do similar, but many people prefer silica style apps anyway | 12:11 |
| anasofoz | interesting, I am planning to make an application in qml but I want to make it crossplatform.... so is it as easy to make such app to work for android, sailfish, and possibly other platforms as Xamarin? | 12:12 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: look on Qt website for supported platforms | 12:12 |
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| anasofoz | After looking on this question: https://together.jolla.com/question/98438/develop-application-using-standard-qt-modules/ ................ The answers really arent that positive about this topic | 12:19 |
| anasofoz | The one who wrote the question wrote an app that worked perfectly on android and linux but apparently it didnt work on SFOS | 12:21 |
| larstiq | anasofoz: but without really saying why | 12:22 |
| coderus | right, sfos does not support some of QtQuick Controls | 12:22 |
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| larstiq | anasofoz: the error they first mention means they didn't do any packaging | 12:22 |
| larstiq | and then what coderus said | 12:23 |
| larstiq | anasofoz: you need keep the common denominator in mind, as with all cross-platform work | 12:23 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: welcome to the world of cross platform development :D sometimes things break on specific platforms | 12:24 |
| coderus | the way developers are creating crossplatform apps is making containers (sucs as Page, TextBox, Dialog, etc.) for different platforms | 12:24 |
| coderus | and implement it for each platform exposing basic properties | 12:25 |
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| anasofoz | I see, thanks for the info. | 12:26 |
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| anasofoz | and btw, has anyone ever tried python Kivy? does it work on SFOS? | 12:28 |
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| anasofoz | I am a super lazy person that dont want to write the code multiple times. if only sfos had better support for webapps/hybrid apps, I would definitely do it in Html5 and save myself the hassle of dealing with qt. | 12:32 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: yeah even then... cross platform is always write once test everywhere | 12:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | there isnt really a lazy version of supporting everything | 12:33 |
| r0kk3rz | even with web | 12:33 |
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| anasofoz | r0kk3rz : true .. | 12:34 |
| anasofoz | coderus: I see your the one who developed webpirate right? | 12:35 |
| anasofoz | do you have any plans to make it use qtwebengine for sfos 2.1? | 12:37 |
| anasofoz | even though it is not supported yet, but shouldnt it be feasible to build qtwebengine for sfos? or perhaps the revived qtwebkit? | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: sooner or later someone will try it | 12:39 |
| anasofoz | I tried without any luck..hopefully soon | 12:40 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: webpirate is made by Dax anyway https://github.com/Dax89/harbour-webpirate | 12:40 |
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| anasofoz | oh sorry, got them mixed up | 12:41 |
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| leszek | qtwebengine is less usable than webkit | 12:50 |
| leszek | anyone tried konqueror based on qtwebengine. Its a nightmare | 12:51 |
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| anasofoz | Hello everyone, can anyone please tell me how to install a module for use into the sailfish sdk/emulater? | 17:50 |
| anasofoz | I want to use the universal components (UC) module from here: https://github.com/M4rtinK/universal-components but I cant understand how to get it installed into the emulater, I recieve the following error: module "UC" is not installed . | 17:52 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: you'll want to package that within your app | 17:55 |
| anasofoz | r0kk3rz: thats the problem, I am not sure how I am supposed to do it | 17:55 |
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| anasofoz | I cant find a decent tutorial to package modules with Sailfish | 17:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: i think martin just put it in a directory and uses relative links for sailfish | 18:02 |
| anasofoz | r0kk3rz: I put the module in the plugins directory and imported it | 18:04 |
| anasofoz | r0kk3rz: what do you mean by relative links? | 18:05 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: that wont work when you want to distribute your app | 18:05 |
| anasofoz | The only tutorial I've found is this: http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.com/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html | 18:08 |
| anasofoz | it describes Installing packages Automatically as Part of a Build using Spectacle. | 18:09 |
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| anasofoz | is that the thing I need? It is truly hectic not to find enough tutorials, I feel like I am squeezing the internet to find a hint somewhere. | 18:10 |
| larstiq | anasofoz: no, stay away from spectacle | 18:11 |
| larstiq | anasofoz: do you know rpm packaging in general? | 18:11 |
| anasofoz | larstiq: Unfortunantly no, I am still kind of a begginner | 18:12 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: installing packages only works if your package is available via the repo | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | UC wont be | 18:13 |
| anasofoz | r0kk3rz : so what is the solution here? I see modRana is using UC | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | so for somethings you can just do a simple BuildRequires: in your spec and its done | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: yeah m4rtink wrote UC for use in modrana | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | he would know the best way to include it | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | its ultimately just a bunch of qml files, so you can just add them into your project | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | like any other qml file really | 18:16 |
| anasofoz | r0kk3rz: when you said "just do a simple BuildRequires: in your spec and its done" should I do add this BuildRequires to the .yaml or directly to the .spec | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | the spec gets regenerated by the yaml, so do it in the yaml | 18:21 |
| r0kk3rz | some of us do away with the yaml, because its kinda pointless | 18:21 |
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| * kimmoli . | 18:34 | |
| anasofoz | <r0kk3rz> I know am a noob, but please bear with me, so in the .yaml I added to the requires: UC = 1.0, and recived the following error, Error: nothing provides UC = 1.0 needed by testapp.1-1.i486 | 18:36 |
| r0kk3rz | anasofoz: i told you that wouldnt work for uc | 18:36 |
| anasofoz | <r0kk3rz>: I am so sorry, I realized my stupidness now lol... anyways many thanks for the help. | 18:40 |
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