Tuesday, 2017-05-02

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Sailor11473hello02:58
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Sailor11473hi03:00
Sailor11473battery drain problem with aqua fish03:00
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dfrhello03:01
dfrneed help with aqua fish03:02
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Sailor11473coderus: help please03:05
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swe_help05:44
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swe_Coolgeek: help05:45
swe_Coolgeek: help with intex aqua fish05:45
swe_Anybody help05:46
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tbrhttp://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html05:50
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Sailor11473hello05:57
abransonkimmoli: our older libzypp doesn't work with it. i'd previously merged it, but had to roll back. So it got caught up in the whole rpm upgrade mess05:58
kimmoliok05:58
abransonthere's probably a version between 1.51 and 1.60 that would be a happy medium, but I hoped to get the rpm upgrade done instead. do you need the 1.6?05:59
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kimmoliabranson: anbox needs boost.log06:13
kimmoliafaiu it was introduced in 106:13
kimmoli1.5406:13
kimmoliboost github repo is a mess, only latest ones seems ok. pre 1.54 history is crap06:14
kimmolibut saidinesh5 and krnlyng knows more about this boost.log requirement06:16
saidinesh5kimmoli: at this point, I am tempted to add another compile time option(DITCH_BOOSTLOG)06:16
saidinesh5krnlyng already rippedit off  with #if 006:16
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abransonkimmoli: yeah they put it through the wringer a bit when they reorganized it. i wonder if it's worth giving 1.54 a try. would be good to find the latest one that works with the old libzypp.06:58
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coderuslol, i'm sleeping at 06:05 :D07:01
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kimmoliabranson: that is a week long project07:28
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abransonkimmoli: wouldn't be so bad if I still have everything set up. will have a dig when I get chance.07:36
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kimmoliit took a while to get correct source tar.bz2, even tried to fuzz with svn. (fail) then found them readymade from boost.org07:39
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abransonkimmoli: ah the commits are bringing back horrible memories :) "the header assembly build tool wasn't integrated07:46
abransonupstream until 1.57"07:46
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kimmolithat was reason to use DUMB=y in obs? not git tar07:48
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kimmolii tried to build 1.60 on obs, and it seems to fail07:52
kimmoliin rpmlint, E: spurious-executable-perm (Badness: 50)07:52
kimmoli[ 1690s] 26 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 201 errors, 49 warnings.07:53
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sakustarcoderus: gut morning! :008:47
coderussakustar: :)08:47
sakustaryou could start getting up earlier though, so it wouldnt be a problem anymore ;)08:47
coderussakustar: thanks, but i'll decline your suggestion :)08:48
sakustarwise choice08:48
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olCan somebody help me with a problem regarding Google Play in Alien Dalvik? Suddenly Google Play on my Jolla C stopped downloading updates. No matter whether I click "update all" or command it to update individual package, it gets stuck in "waiting for download". Any ideas where to look to debug this issue?16:23
abransonol: lots of people are getting this. there's a thread on TJC about it. people are doing all sorts of hacking to fix it16:28
olabranson: Could you please give me a link to that thread?16:36
olAre you referring to this? https://together.jolla.com/question/160541/is-sailfish-blocked-from-google-play-store/16:43
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gcfhello17:00
gcfhelp anybody17:00
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LarstiQgcf: quit it17:04
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LarstiQgcf: if you have an actual question, ask it17:04
leszekWTF17:04
ahjolinnayeah WTF17:04
TeguO(n) help searching17:05
LarstiQgcf: but spamming everyone is not acceptable behaviour17:05
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gcfi'm having an issue with my intex aqua fish battery help anybody17:05
gcfbattery is draining very fast17:05
leszekgcf did you check with a system monitor app if some process is using all cpu power ?17:06
ahjolinnathis does remind me, are there any moderators in this channel?17:06
gcfyes I used crest but none of the process is using CPU more than 13%17:06
Teguthere are no ops right now but I don't know if some people are an auth away from getting opped17:07
leszekgcf: this started suddenly or did you install or configure something before this happened ? (Maybe installed an system upgrade or something=17:07
leszek)17:07
gcfleszek: I bought this 3days ago and I upgraded it to 2.0.5.6 from 2.0.2.4817:08
leszekgcf: you upgraded it just now or 3 days ago ?17:09
leszekbecause right after upgrading the indexing service might eat the battery until all data is read17:09
gcfon 2nd day17:09
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leszekgcf: so it should've settled already. Especially if crest does not show any high cpu usage. Have you also setup crest to show all processes not only apps ?17:10
gcfyes17:11
LarstiQany android apps you're running?17:11
gcfyes only Whatsapp but after using it I use aliendalvik killer to stop it17:12
LarstiQany difference in power usage with dalvik off/on?17:12
malI assume you have tried rebooting the phone?17:12
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leszekgcf: what is sysmon showing. Can you make a screenshot17:13
gcfNo difference with dalvik off17:13
FireFlysomehow I'm less prone to help someone who floods a channel with highlights, in general :p17:14
leszekusually 2 days battery life should be normal with android support enabled. If you use it heavily only 117:14
gcfleszek: i'm not even getting 15hrs of life17:14
leszekwithout android support enabled its roughly twice as long17:14
gcfwould upgrading to 2.1.0.11 fix the problem?17:15
leszekgcf: can you check AIDA64 -> Battery to see if the batteries health is good17:15
leszekmaybe the battery is done for17:15
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gcfyes AIDA64 shows health as good17:16
leszekthen please check hunger meter and see how much your phone needs. It should me around 550mw17:16
gcfleszek: but discharge rate is going upto 500mA and temperature 42degrees17:17
leszekor better 500-550 mW17:17
leszekgcf: thats high17:17
leszekit needs to be something running in the background eating the battery17:17
leszekplease check with hunger meter to be sure17:18
leszekand crest again17:18
gcfeven making scaling governer to ondemand and scaling_min_freq to 200Mhz din do anything17:18
leszekwon't change a thing if an application is eating cpu power and battery17:19
gcfcrest doesn;t show anything17:19
gcfhunger meter shows 600mW17:21
leszek100mW more than here. But still shouldn't eath battery than so fast17:21
gcfleszek: what do you think?17:22
leszekI think this is a normal power usage17:22
gcfleszek: how about upgrading to 2.1.0.11?17:23
leszek2.1 isn't out for aqua fish yet17:23
leszekI think you should just wait and see in a few days if the battery life settles or not17:24
leszekbefore trying anything else17:24
gcfleszek: sometimes booster[silica-qt5] is using 45% of cpu and is reducing gradually17:25
leszeknormal17:25
gcfleszek: how to play webm and mkv videos with VP9 and VP8 codecs17:27
leszekthe browser can play vp9 and vp817:27
leszekgstreamer does not seem to support vp8 or vp9. At least I have problems with them too17:27
gcfleszek: what about your LLs vPlayer17:28
leszekits using gstreamer17:28
kimmolisomething went broken on vp support in 2.1., there was user-enableable support earlier17:28
gcfleszek: I had installed libvpx also17:29
leszekhopefully 2.2 will fix it17:29
leszekwith the new gstreamer version17:29
gcfleszek: how to play videos in sdcard with browser?17:30
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leszekfrom sd card. Just navigate to /media/ and to your sdcard then17:30
malthe vp8 support in gstreamer which is disabled by default is not really from gstreamer but from gst-droid and uses android codecs17:30
gcfmal: yes New Pipe is playing vp817:31
malwhat is that?17:32
gcfit's an android app which is a clone for youtube17:33
gcfleszek: is 2500mah battery less for a 5i nch display17:34
leszek?17:35
gcfleszek: is 2500mah battery less for a 5 inch display like aqua fish's?17:36
leszekI don't get the question ? Is the battery enough or what are you asking ?17:36
leszek2500mAh is ok17:36
leszekI would say17:36
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gcfleszek:Even while charging charging reduces to 300mA from 1000mA after 90%17:38
gcfleszek: what do you think?17:38
leszekwhat is reducing ?17:38
gcfleszek: charging rate17:38
leszekin Aida64 ?17:39
leszekI am not sure what it reads out17:39
gcfyes17:39
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gcfleszek: I'm very much excited about this device but  battery is horrible due to which I'm not able to promote sailfish os in my GLUG17:41
gcfsorry everybody my phone's battery made me do that17:42
gcfsorry everyone17:42
leszekjust like I said if you upgraded lately just let it settle for two days or so17:42
leszekand if you use it intensively its normal that it lasts only for a day17:43
gcfleszek: i don't use it extensively in fact it didn't made me do that17:44
gcfleszek: just browsing for 2 minutes drains battery by 5%17:45
leszekI would consider that normal17:45
gcfleszek: how can it be android is doing fine I noticed a drop of only 1%17:46
gcfis this happening just to me only?17:46
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leszekhave you running android on the same hardware ?17:47
leszekI don't think so, so you can't really compare17:47
gcfleszek: yes what you said is true but this android phone costs less than 25$?17:48
leszekmight be. But its a different hardware with lower specs and resolution I expect17:49
leszekmight be even newer hardware17:49
gcfleszek: should I reset it to factory settings to 2.0.2.48 ?17:50
leszekwhy ?17:50
gcfleszek: may be 2.0.5.6 has some bugs in it?17:50
leszeklike I said its a slightly higher battery usage then I have here. But it can be explained to what you have activated as services in the background17:51
leszekso it is totally normal17:51
gcfleszek: I don't run any android services in background but still battery drain17:52
leszekthen this is strange17:53
leszeklike I said maybe tracker is indexing stuff17:53
leszekit might be indexing media files on your sdcard17:53
gcfleszek: no media no sdcard17:53
leszekthis can take some time depending on how much files you have17:53
leszekhaven't you said that earlier that you had one ?17:53
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gcfleszek: i tried with it just for once17:54
gcfafter this drain i gave up on using sdcard17:55
leszekSorry but I don't see a drain if you say it is using 600mW when you have it turned on17:55
gcfleszek: strangely even in flight mode battery reduced from 89-84%17:56
gcfh17:57
gcfleszek: hunger meter showed time left till empty:2hrs when battery is 39% now battery is 34% it is showing 6hrs37min17:59
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gcfleszek: there?18:01
leszekjust normal18:01
leszekhunger meters expected battery life algorithm isn't very helpful18:02
gcfleszek: how about changing scaling_governer to ondemand18:03
leszekwon't make a big difference18:03
gcfleszek: https://together.jolla.com/question/139036/intex-aqua-fish-battery-life/18:04
leszekgcf: I know this thread. Doesn't change a thing18:08
leszekYou have a totally normal battery usage on your device18:09
gcfleszek: what about your Jolla C ? how does it perform?18:10
leszeklike I said I get about 2, 2 and a half day battery life18:10
leszekwith android support active18:10
gcfleszek: how is it possible?18:11
gcfJolla C and Aqua fish have same hardware right?18:12
leszekmoderate usage basically. Read something in the morning surf a little bit in the afternoon and browse through some twitter tweets nothing more18:12
leszekmaybe have a little chat in the meantime with an android app18:12
leszekthats all18:12
leszekIf you would playback podcasts all day through bluetooth speaker it would drain faster and not long so last18:13
gcfleszek: did u observe any battery drain overnight?18:13
leszekit uses 10% I guess or so. Nothing I would call big drain18:14
gcfleszek: is it always connected to wifi ? 2g/3g?18:15
leszekyeah mostly wifi18:15
leszek3g18:15
leszekhave no LTE(4g) card inserted in it18:16
gcfleszek: mine at night I switch off wifi and i use 2g battery drains by 10%, in flight mode 5%18:17
leszekso normal18:17
tadzikspeaking of aqua fish, did anyone have a problem with Play Store being stuck on "download pending" for everything?18:17
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tadzik(or has an idea about what may cause it)18:17
leszektadzik: have you read the together jolla threads ?18:18
tadziknot yet, *searches*18:18
leszekshould be on the first page xD18:19
gcftadzik: i have it with F-droid but anyhow it installs18:19
leszektadzik: https://together.jolla.com/question/160541/is-sailfish-blocked-from-google-play-store/18:19
leszektadzik: like I recommend use yalp as alternative if you need apps from the play store18:21
tadzikleszek: yeah, so far I just download apks for what I need, but I was hoping that there's a fix, not a workaround :)18:22
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leszektadzik: I read about some permission stuff that makes downloading work again18:38
leszeksee the threads please18:38
leszekand the comments18:38
tadzikwell, a downgrade and the chattr is said to work sometimes, yeah18:39
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