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| Sailor11473 | hunger meter shows 1296mwh consumption.is it normal? | 07:30 |
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| Sailor11473 | leszek: hunger meter shows 1296mwh consumption.is it normal? | 07:31 |
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| leszek | no | 07:37 |
| leszek | at least not if the phone is idle | 07:37 |
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| fLegmatik | Sailor11473 (IRC): no, it isn't normal. I also installed Hunger Meter on Aquafish now and it shows power consumption in mW, not mWh. | 08:04 |
| r0kk3rz | watt-hours is a weird consumption unit anyway | 08:06 |
| fLegmatik | watt-hour is an energy consumption unit | 08:07 |
| r0kk3rz | usually its an instantanous useage figure | 08:07 |
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| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : but in led age ? :P | 08:54 |
| tortoisedoc | as in L.E.D. :D | 08:54 |
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| ocdtr_web | Hey, wondering if anyone can answer a question that the Sailfish website seems to have zero answers on... Where do I get one? | 18:16 |
| leszek | ocdtr_web: see a compatibility list (with its own wiki pages to images): https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 18:17 |
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| ocdtr_web | leszek: That doesn't answer the question. I'm not looking to flash a device. Is there any way to... like... buy a phone with Sailfish on it? | 18:18 |
| leszek | ocdtr_web: when it comes to official devices in india might be some intex aqua fish left. In Russia you might get an Inoi r7 | 18:19 |
| ocdtr_web | I'm in the US. Trying to find literally anything currently supported that isn't Android or an iPhone. | 18:19 |
| leszek | Accione from Jalasoft in sout america end of summer as far as I know | 18:20 |
| leszek | ocdtr_web: best is to wait for the Xperia X port to be ready end of june / start of july | 18:20 |
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| leszek | this will be an official port by Jolla and to my current knowledge there will be some community devices available to buy with SailfishOS preinstalled (though I guess only for the european market) and there will be an image for the Xperia X | 18:21 |
| leszek | ocdtr_web: so basically the best for the US market is to get one of the best supported android devices and installing a sailfishos image | 18:22 |
| leszek | Nexus 5 is running quite good for example with SailfishOS (though the newest version isn't available yet it gets regulary updates) | 18:23 |
| leszek | but those ports miss the alien dalvik Android Runtime | 18:23 |
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| leszek | there is sfdroid which is an alternative though not so widely spreaded and stable | 18:23 |
| ocdtr_web | It just seems kinda insane that none of these alternatives to Android can be like... bought. How is a platform supposed to grow if people who want to switch can't even buy one? (This isn't unique to Sailfish, I found the same when I was like "wonder if I can get an Ubuntu Phone". Of course, that's now dead.) | 18:25 |
| ocdtr_web | I'll keep an eye out for the Xperia X. | 18:26 |
| leszek | ocdtr_web: US market is simply very complicated. It would be insane to target it for any small company | 18:27 |
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| leszek | thats why ubuntu used chinese or european companies to sell ubuntu phones mostly in europe | 18:27 |
| leszek | and thats why jolla targeted europe at the beginning | 18:28 |
| ocdtr_web | Can't you just... buy/sell phones and use them on any one of the GSM carriers? | 18:28 |
| LarstiQ | well that and Jolla is a Finnish company, so US market is not somtehing to start with | 18:28 |
| leszek | :) | 18:28 |
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| leszek | ocdtr_web: yeah basically yes. There were people from the US buying the first Jolla phone couple of years ago. Some of them now struggeling as some carriers turn off 2G and their device only supports 2G for that network | 18:29 |
| LarstiQ | ocdtr_web: the phones Jolla sold are currently out of stock, if you don't want to use a port / get something second hand or from Intex, waiting for Xperia X is probably your best bet | 18:29 |
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| LarstiQ | ocdtr_web: frequencies are not the same, there's consumer laws to take into account | 18:30 |
| ocdtr_web | I'm about | | this close to buying a flip phone, lol. | 18:31 |
| leszek | then buy a japanese one (also hard to get but at least you get some with wifi, bt and a browser) | 18:33 |
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| Tegu | ocdtr_web: a flip phone like this one? :P http://www.samsung.com/cn/smartphones/samsung-w2017/SM-W2017ZDACTC/ | 18:34 |
| ocdtr_web | Tegu: What in the unholy heck is that? o_o | 18:36 |
| ocdtr_web | Can't buy a Tizen phone as far as I can tell either. | 18:37 |
| Tegu | it's a flip phone for year 2017! | 18:37 |
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| Tegu | hm, I thought there were at least one or two tizen models? perhaps they're quire old already, though | 18:37 |
| Tegu | quite* | 18:37 |
| ocdtr_web | I mean like... what software does that flip phone run, lol? | 18:37 |
| Tegu | android, apparently | 18:38 |
| ocdtr_web | Oh, well, scratch that then. | 18:38 |
| Tegu | yea if you were looking for an alternative to android | 18:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | it would be nice if you could actually buy devices though | 19:10 |
| r0kk3rz | i think it would help things | 19:10 |
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| gabriele | Hello there, for someone going for the first time with Sailfish OS, what is better to buy? Jolla1, Jolla C but is really rare, Xperia X? thank you | 20:12 |
| r0kk3rz | xperia x doesnt have sailfish yet | 20:14 |
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| gabriele2 | It is me again, anyway the first Jolla is too old? it is the only I can find there in Italy ) | 20:17 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | you can port on some phone | 21:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I'm using an one plus x on purpose | 21:32 |
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| berndhs | Hello folks. Is there a build server for the sailfish OS packages I could use? There is a package that I help with, and someone wants it on sailfish. | 22:15 |
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| ilpianista | berndhs: build.merproject.org | 22:46 |
| berndhs | ilpianista: gracias! | 22:46 |
| berndhs | it says: Sorry, sign up is disabled | 22:48 |
| berndhs | :( | 22:48 |
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| ilpianista | berndhs: I thought you just want to browse the packages to read the spec files | 22:50 |
| coderus | berndhs: poke lbt | 22:51 |
| berndhs | i need to build one, I'm sure it is not build yet | 22:51 |
| ilpianista | berndhs: if your package has dependencies over SailfishOS specific packages, then you need the emulator to build it | 22:51 |
| ilpianista | if it has not, then you can use build.merproject.org. To get an account you can register on bugs.merproject.org (the user is the same) | 22:52 |
| ilpianista | s/SailfishOS/Jolla | 22:52 |
| berndhs | it has dependencies on a bunch of crypto libs, I don't know if those are in sailfish, or if it will have to supply those itself | 22:52 |
| ilpianista | those are available | 22:52 |
| ilpianista | "Jolla specific packages" are silica stuff (UI) and something else | 22:53 |
| ilpianista | but the "system base" packages are available | 22:53 |
| berndhs | some of these are kinda out there. Nothing sailfish specific. | 22:53 |
| berndhs | and someone would probably have to make a UI for it. | 22:53 |
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| berndhs | in any case, thank you for the pointers. | 22:54 |
| ilpianista | see https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Open_Build_Service also | 22:55 |
| ilpianista | however I was wrong (too many months away from sailfishos...), you can build every package on OBS, even those requiring silica stuff | 22:56 |
| berndhs | hey I even have a bugsilla account already :) | 22:57 |
| berndhs | from the olden days I think, when i was doing Mer | 22:57 |
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| lbt | in which case : welcome back :) | 23:12 |
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