Friday, 2017-07-28

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gnus__Hi, is there any IRC client on sailfishos?06:10
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pketognus__: yes, there is atleast one irc client in the store06:15
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gnus__ok. thanks.06:58
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NokiusHappy SysAdmin Day LarstiQ pketo08:57
pketothanks :)09:01
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LarstiQNokius: hah, thank you09:33
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accumulatorwhy is getting translations to work is such a royal PITA in sailfish app?10:20
r0kk3rzbecause you're doing it wrong, probably10:21
accumulatorI guess so.. tried everything10:22
accumulatoronly explicitly passing a context makes something sane come out10:22
accumulatoreven for id-based translations10:22
r0kk3rzyou read the wiki?10:23
accumulatorwhich one?10:24
accumulatorsure did10:24
r0kk3rzthats all you should need10:25
accumulatoreverything from source -> ts, ts -> qm, qm packaging in rpm, it all looks good10:25
accumulatoronly none of the QML qsTr does any correct lookup10:25
accumulatortranslator loads and installs OK, as do translation lookups in C++ (with explicit 'context')10:26
r0kk3rzgot your code somewhere?10:26
accumulatorwithout explicit context it doesn;t work10:26
accumulatorbut haven't pushed the translations branch yet10:27
r0kk3rzhow are you running it? debug?10:28
accumulatoron device10:29
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r0kk3rzif you deploy > run from qtc the locale will be C10:29
accumulatorI do a QLocale::setDefault10:30
r0kk3rzyou shouldnt need to10:30
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r0kk3rzworks for me anyway, and im not setting any QLocale things or translate things in the code10:31
r0kk3rzjust letting libsailfishapp do its thing10:31
accumulatoryeah that's what I see in various other projects10:32
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accumulatorare you using id-based xlat?10:33
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accumulatorsigh. shelving this mess..10:51
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Mister_Magisterrinigus: even on sailfish generating "Turn left now" takes 0.0212:56
Mister_Magisterit's fast af12:56
rinigusMister_Magister: the question is not in generation speed, but on how long does it take to say it by device.12:57
Mister_Magisterbut when you run mimic as program it runs until he end speaking12:58
Mister_Magisterso you wait until the program stops12:58
rinigusMister_Magister: so, when we have longer instructions like "Turn left on intersection of XXX and YYY in 200 meters" that may take significant amount of time. Would be good to know that in advance12:58
Mister_Magisterah that what you mean12:58
Mister_Magisterhow much before we should to play it12:58
rinigusMister_Magister: sorry for being crypticc :)12:59
Mister_Magisterso yea we can generate it to file and then play it like people do with flite and espeak12:59
r0kk3rzrinigus: dont make it too wordy please12:59
rinigusr0kk3rz: if its too wordy, we can discuss it with the routing engine software developers. I guess they try to minimize it as well13:00
Mister_Magistersource of mimc is 1.4GB so its kill obs a bit13:00
r0kk3rzrinigus: i prefer HERE style voice prompts to google maps style13:00
r0kk3rz99% of the time i dont need the street names, just when to turn13:00
Mister_Magisteryeah i've never heard street names in navigation13:01
Mister_Magisterjust turn left or right it's easy and good enaugh13:01
r0kk3rzgmaps is annoying because it repeats street names 3x13:02
Mister_Magisterfuk google13:03
rinigusI would suggest, at the first step, make it work as it is with Valhalla and then see how can we optimize it in terms of length of the instruction. Its an iterative process and we don't have to have it perfect at the first step13:03
Mister_Magisterlike name 1 thing that google did good13:03
Mister_Magisterit spy you13:04
r0kk3rznot when it started...13:04
Mister_Magisterbut now...13:04
r0kk3rzbut anyway, everything spies on you, this is the world we created13:04
Mister_Magisteryep except for sailfish :D13:05
r0kk3rz... for now13:05
r0kk3rzlike google, things can change13:05
Mister_Magisterso rinigus we should generate tts into file?13:07
rinigusMister_Magister: I think so, that should work.13:09
Mister_Magisterrinigus: and will be easier to play13:10
Mister_Magisterso basically there is nothing i can do but providing mimic and testing voices13:10
rinigusMister_Magister: I wouldn't call that "nothing". Its a very good start!13:11
Mister_Magistermeh, wanted to do some c++ programming haha13:11
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rinigusMister_Magister: do you know why mimic is that big? what about its RAM consumption, it seemed to be developed for small devices too, right?13:17
Mister_Magisterright dunno why source is so big but output isn't that big. Mimic is part of MycroftAI so it can be the reason. Executable is like 50MB with voices included13:19
Mister_Magisterram usage? it closes after second13:19
r0kk3rzits supposed to run on an rpi13:24
r0kk3rzso should be ok13:24
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: i;ve ran it on sfos  really it's isn't made by google13:24
r0kk3rzeven if its a bit hungry, usually you're doing voice prompts when hands free anyway13:25
Mister_Magisterit isn't13:25
r0kk3rzwhats that got to do with it?13:25
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rinigusMister_Magister: 50MB executable with voices should be fine, I think.13:29
Mister_Magisteryeah it's really light13:30
Mister_Magisterrinigus: ah mimic detected alsa developer package so i'll test playing directly from mimic13:33
Mister_Magisteroh my we SHOULD package only mimic executable. Whole compilation output is 660MB13:36
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Mister_Magisterit's a bit to big. only a bit13:38
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Mister_Magisterrinigus: okay playing from mimic doesn't work13:54
nh1402Mister_Magister: you doing the gcc thing?13:55
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Mister_Magisterdon't care?14:03
Mister_Magisternh1402: we should update glibc to some not prehistoric version (newest one would be best) and then recompile EVERYTHING and since i don't have lipstick sources there is no point14:06
r0kk3rzthere you go14:07
Mister_Magisteroh but there are closed source parts too14:08
Mister_Magisterand i'm not willing to rebuild everything by myself14:08
r0kk3rzdo it on obs14:08
Mister_Magisteris there every package that is needed to run sfos?14:09
r0kk3rzbut getting it all built is the first step14:09
Mister_Magister"almost" so just fork mer-core:devel and rebuild everything14:09
Mister_Magisterif you are better than me why you can't do that14:10
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r0kk3rzbecause it doesnt bother me as much as it bothers you14:11
Mister_Magisternah i don't care i have chroot to debian14:11
rinigusMister_Magister: I guess we will use the same solution as proposed for others (dump to wav and later playback)14:15
Mister_Magisterrinigus: upt that'll be best14:17
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nh1402atm I'm getting sources for something shiny14:25
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Mister_Magister_rinigus: since mimic is used in python based ai it probably can be used directly from python but dunno how14:29
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rinigusMister_Magister_: I guess there is a package for it...14:30
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r0kk3rzits mostly C, C interop with python is easy14:31
Mister_Magister_you would have to checkmycroft core because i don't know python14:31
gnus__no irc client in warehouse?14:33
coderusgnus__: in jolla store14:33
gnus__how do u install apps from jolla store on ported devices?14:33
r0kk3rzgnus__: what device?14:34
gnus__moto G 201414:50
Mister_Magister_gnus__: but we have store14:52
Mister_Magister_wtf man we have store enabled since loooooong time14:52
gnus__Let me check.14:55
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nh1402anyone have experience with building chromium?18:10
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Mister_Magisternh1402: why do you need to build chroium?18:32
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Mister_Magistersaidinesh5: you around?18:41
aa13qguys, if you're building chromium, pls build qtwebengine ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)18:43
nh1402Mister_Magister: quicksilver18:43
Mister_Magisterwhat is this?18:43
Mister_Magisteraa13q: isnt it already in qml?18:43
nh1402that super fast chromium browser for Sailfish18:43
nh1402which stopped working quite some time ago18:44
nh1402kicked the Sailfish browser in between the legs in terms of html5 support18:44
Mister_Magisternh1402: u can't just use qt for chromium?18:46
Mister_Magisteroh :/18:47
nh1402that's what quicksilver does18:47
Mister_Magisterbut seems fast af18:47
r0kk3rzyou can, thats qtwebengine18:47
nh1402I thought he meant using qt as UI for chromium18:47
aa13qMister_Magister: afaik, nope, there is no qtwebengine for sfos out of the box18:48
Mister_Magisternh1402: i have just 1 question18:48
Mister_Magisterwhy the guy who recorded that is from poland18:48
r0kk3rzbecause polish people exist?18:48
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: but why they are everywhere18:49
r0kk3rzmaybe tworaz was polish18:49
nh1402but anyway yeah, I'm stuck at that error, and don't know how to fix it18:49
nh1402and this is just getting the sources, haven't even gotten to building it yet18:49
nh1402which will be a whole new can of worms18:49
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Mister_Magisterhe died?18:49
r0kk3rzno, i hope not18:49
Mister_Magisternh1402 i mean using qt as chromium backend18:49
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: so he is still polish :D18:49
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r0kk3rzpotentially ;)18:50
nh1402like r0kk3rz said, Polish people exist18:50
r0kk3rzbut he isnt around here anymore18:50
Mister_Magisteri just started to love this browser it's exactly what i wanted to do18:51
nh1402he used to be the browser guy at Jolla for a time, even when he did quicksilver18:51
Mister_Magisteri mean i'm polish but whatever18:51
aa13qMister_Magister: maybe you're noticing polish people because you're from Poland too?18:51
nh1402*this browser* as in quicksilver?18:51
Mister_Magisternh1402: yeah18:52
nh1402it's a capital P for Polish people18:52
nh1402you're not polishing people to make them shiny18:52
Mister_Magisteryeah :D18:52
nh1402quicksilver doesn't work on newer versions of Sailfish so I thought I would try and go one step ahead and get newer sources, and try and get that to work18:53
nh1402but if I can't even get that to work, I might as well just try and get that version from the video working first18:53
Mister_Magisterthat would be awesome18:53
nh1402unless that has the same issue getting sources18:54
aa13q:) anyway, I guess if we could build qtwebengine, provide new qml interface should not be a problem18:54
nh1402in which case I'm stuck both ways18:54
Mister_Magistersailfish browser is tough slow and heavy18:54
Mister_Magisterand webpirate is even worse18:54
nh1402i thought people were saying qtwebengine has numerous bugs and stuff18:54
r0kk3rzit does18:54
nh1402so why do people still want it18:55
Mister_Magisteraa13q: i bet it's already in sfos18:55
nh1402if it was, people would have found it and used it to make a better browser18:55
r0kk3rzbut will quicksilver be any better?18:55
nh1402clearly that hasn't happened18:55
nh1402r0kk3rz: it uses straight up chromium sources, with qt as UI18:55
nh1402and some patches18:55
aa13qMister_Magister: link please? could not find packages18:55
nh1402r0kk3rz: so it should, yes18:56
r0kk3rzMister_Magister: its not, you lose bet18:56
nh1402so no one has any ideas about my problem?18:56
r0kk3rznh1402: maybe, if you fix it18:56
r0kk3rznh1402: what was the actual problem?18:57
r0kk3rzwe got distracted by Polish people18:58
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: that damn polish people18:59
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r0kk3rzah, that  looks friendly19:04
r0kk3rzi suggest you find some chromium devs19:06
nh1402the guy who did quicksilver in the first place was a browser dev :(19:07
r0kk3rzthey must have a mailinglist or something19:08
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kaariis it safer to do update through phone or through terminal?19:14
r0kk3rzkaari: ui19:15
kaariokki doukki, maybe that way then.19:16
Mister_Magistercan somebody here help me with qabstractlistmodel?19:16
coderusMister_Magister: sure, what the problem?19:19
Mister_Magistercoderus: i have nice working qabstractlistmodel inside list19:19
coderuslist aka listview?19:20
Mister_MagistersetData method is ready too but dunno how to set data now19:20
coderusmake sure you reimplemented flags to return item is editable19:20
coderusand to set values you just = value19:21
coderusinside delegate19:21
coderusor without model.19:21
coderusjust name = value19:21
Mister_Magistercoderus: i mean what i have do to call thay saveData19:21
coderusread above ^19:21
Mister_Magisterit isn't called automatically19:21
coderussetData will be called when you call name = value in qml delegate19:22
coderusif you set your model properly19:22
Mister_Magisterwait that makes sense19:22
Mister_Magistercoderus: can you tell me what i'm doing wrong?
Mister_Magisterprobably everything19:25
coderusMister_Magister: what model?19:26
aa13qMister_Magister: buddymodel model or option model?19:27
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Mister_Magisteroption model19:28
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Mister_Magisteraka listview219:28
coderusproperty Options option19:29
coderusOptions is your c++ model?19:29
coderusoption = options19:29
coderuslooks fishy to me19:29
coderusunless you really returning pointer to another model object here19:29
greppedMister_Magister: Are you planning to provide an update for ur port anytime soon?19:30
Mister_Magistercoderus: i have qabstractlistmodel with qabstractlistmodels19:30
Mister_Magistergrepped: yep waiting for new target on obs to build nice OTA for u guys19:30
Mister_Magisteri mean there is almost nothing to fix rn19:30
greppedgreat news19:31
Mister_Magistercoderus: lemme give you rest of source19:31
coderusMister_Magister: ok, so options model have role named value?19:31
Mister_Magistercoderus: that will be easier
greppedIs there any way to sync ms exchange on ported devices?19:32
Mister_Magistergetting that app from official jolla phone?19:33
coderusMister_Magister: so in line 222 you have property var value: optionValue, but in 210 you trying to access "value" which is not accessible here (onCheckedChanged: option.value = fieldValue.checked;) try optionValue = fieldValue.checked19:34
Mister_Magisteroh right19:34
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Mister_Magistercoderus: nah didn't help19:38
Mister_Magisterthe method isn't even called19:38
Mister_Magisteron qt wiki there was something about emiting signal19:38
Mister_MagisterUnlike the C++ item views such as QListView or QTableView, the setData() method must be explicitly invoked from QML whenever appropriate. For example, on the editingFinished() or accepted() signal of TextField19:39
greppedMister_Magister: I am not sure on how to do that. Perhaps, exchange is the only essential thing missing for me. Otherwise, this OS on my device is pretty stable.19:39
coderusMister_Magister: you should implement
Mister_Magistercoderus: look that above19:39
coderusMister_Magister: just implement that function and return QAbstractListModel::flags(index) | Qt::ItemIsEditable19:40
coderusand it wil;l work19:40
Mister_Magisterok my master19:41
Mister_Magistergrepped: except bootloops sometime. my moto g2 starts to dying19:41
greppedbootloops! yes. what do u mean by 'starts to dying'? Battery drains.19:43
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Mister_Magistergrepped: modem and usb are dying. i had to disable upper speaker because it's also broken19:47
Mister_Magistercoderus: just check latest commit it's still not working :/19:48
coderusMister_Magister: option.optionValue = fieldValue.checked === "option" is wrong here. write just optionValue = fieldValue.checked. and does this checkbox have text visible here? just wondering if text: name works19:51
Mister_Magisterwhat do you mean19:53
coderusMister_Magister: nvm, need to sleep19:53
coderuschange option.optionValue = fieldValue.checked to option= fieldValue.checked19:53
Mister_Magistergotta wait for saidinesh519:53
coderusoh crap19:53
coderusto value = fieldValue.checked19:54
Mister_MagisterBinding loop detected for property "checked"19:54
coderusMister_Magister: does checkbox have onClicked? use it instead19:55
Mister_Magisterwhat difference both are called19:56
Mister_Magisterchecked that19:56
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coderusMister_Magister: to avoid event loop19:56
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coderusbinding loop (god, what i'm talking...)19:56
Mister_Magisterstill doesnt work19:57
coderusthen start with minimal design to learn models first, and then inject code to your mess :)19:58
Mister_Magistercoderus: wha?19:58
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Mister_Magistermess? it's clean code thanks to saidinesh519:58
coderuswrite minimal application with one model and one listview using minimum code :)19:58
Mister_Magisterit's not possible19:59
Mister_Magisteri mean wait19:59
coderuswhat is not possible?19:59
Mister_Magisteryou are talking about making just example app to check if it's working?19:59
coderuswhat working?20:00
coderusi did it many times, believe me it works flawlessly20:00
Mister_Magisterso what are you talking about?20:00
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coderusi mean do it for yourself to understand how to do it properly20:02
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Mister_Magisterthat's what i meant20:05
Mister_Magistercoderus: that Loader is problem probably20:05
Mister_Magisterdo you have better idea for that?20:06
coderusMister_Magister: so try without loader20:06
Mister_Magisterbut do you have better idea for that loader?20:07
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Mister_Magistercoderus: whoa it started to working out of nowhere20:32
Mister_Magisterit was not working i went to other window and went back after 30 min click button and whoa it's working20:33
Mister_Magisterit's loader problem20:33
Mister_Magisteri doesn't pass values20:33
Mister_Magisterand anything20:33
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Mister_Magistercoderus: do you have better option for that?20:36
Mister_Magisterbecause i need 4 different delegates20:36
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aa13qMister_Magister, are you sure about Loader? Is pure rectangle as delegate component instead of Loader displaying correctly?20:58
Mister_Magisteraa13q: what do you mean? I need loader to load different delegate20:59
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nh1402think I've gotten the sources now21:02
nh1402but too late for build testing, and busy tomorrow21:02
aa13qMister_Magister, cloned the repo, loader looks fine for me21:06
Mister_Magisteraa13q: and?21:06
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aa13qMister_Magister, I mean it looks like working:
Mister_Magisteraa13q: do you even know what the problem is?21:22
Mister_Magisterit's completly not working21:23
Mister_Magisteroh fuck fuck fuck21:23
aa13qsorry for my misunderstanding21:24
Mister_Magisteraa13q: please remove the source as fast as you can21:24
Mister_Magisteraa13q: i send my facebook login and password by mistake21:25
aa13qI thought it's some testing account. I've removed video and the sources but you definetly should change it due to github commits21:27
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Mister_Magisteraa13q: changed already and removed github repo21:28
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Mister_Magisteraa13q: the problem isn't in reading but saving values21:30
aa13qMister_Magister: ah, ok! sorry missed that. Anyway, I've removed the repo but could look at it later when you restore it21:31
Mister_Magisterok thanks :)21:31
Mister_Magisteri had to make properties and other stuff to pass values through loader i need something else21:32
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coderusMister_Magister_: component inside loader should have access to model.value indeed without any tricks22:02
Mister_Magister_coderus: wiki says otherwise
coderusMister_Magister_: inside delegate you have context property you can't loose: model22:03
coderusjust try without all these properties to use model.something directly22:03
Mister_Magister_model is undefined22:03
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coderusit just works22:05
Mister_Magisterit's not even defined before loader22:06
Mister_Magistercoderus: now look at wiki22:06
Mister_Magisterand it'll explain you why it's working22:07
Mister_Magistercoderus: the best will be just hide unused  components and not use loader22:08
Mister_Magisteror split it to separate files22:09
Mister_Magisterwhat do u think22:10
Mister_Magistercoderus: ?22:13
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