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blabber | hmmm... i am not sure if i unserstand the installation instructions for sailfishx correctly. | 05:13 |
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blabber | i prepared for the release by updating the xperia to the latest android version and unlocked the boot loader. | 05:13 |
blabber | does that mean I don't have to use EMMA at all? | 05:13 |
Nrsisti | yes, if you have updated android to latest via OTA | 05:14 |
blabber | that's what i figured, thanks for verification | 05:15 |
blabber | so just download the two zips, copy them together and run a batch file. nice. | 05:15 |
Nrsisti | and install windows drivers if you are using windows | 05:16 |
blabber | i unlocked the phone using fastboot on windows. so i guess i should be fine. | 05:17 |
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nekron | One thing that should be noted about unlocking the bootload is to type the hexcode UPPERCASE... that was my fault yesterday when flashing the device on Linux | 07:20 |
nekron | *bootloader | 07:21 |
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Markkyboy | @ghosalmartin - Hi, success with Station messages, now just need to find a way to stop messages repeating/doubling up when Arrivals/Departures is refreshed. Also, as suggested in your description of your app on Openrepos, a cover with useful information, well, I've managed to get arrival/departure/platform showing but without header, which is decided by an if/else statement, so needs some work to get it to show. Ideas appreci | 09:26 |
Markkyboy | @ghosalmartin - Also, I have added 18 new stations to the sqlite file and recompiled the app, but the new stations do not show in the search..?, any ideas? | 09:27 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, i think you need to regenerate the sqlite db since thats just copied to the users device on install | 09:29 |
Markkyboy | I guessed something was missing - how do I regenerate? | 09:31 |
sledges | Markkyboy: awesome app! (NationalRail UK for SFOS \o/) | 09:31 |
Markkyboy | @sledges - all thanks to ghosalmartin - he built the app, I've just copied it and added some jazz :) | 09:31 |
Markkyboy | I have also added colour coding to the operators, like blue for Southeastern trains, etc..works well. | 09:32 |
Markkyboy | just crank starting the SDK.....7 mins and counting :( | 09:32 |
sledges | lol then thanks muchly ghosalmartin again:) ^^ cc lbt stephg vgrade r0kk3rz (when in UK :P) need to tell ggabriel and alterego too:) | 09:33 |
Markkyboy | does anyone else have to wait about 7 minutes for SDK to appear on screen?, I wouldn't mind, but my laptop is not short on resources! | 09:36 |
sledges | Markkyboy: what does launching from cmdline say? (cc Jare_ martyone) | 09:41 |
Markkyboy | @sledges - I haven't tried that....ah, it's launched now - but will check that out at some point. | 09:43 |
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ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, I dunno :P | 09:46 |
ghosalmartin | I can't remember its been a while tbh | 09:47 |
Markkyboy | no worries, I will keep searching/trying stuff :) | 09:47 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, did you redo the install? | 09:48 |
Markkyboy | what do you mean? | 09:49 |
ghosalmartin | if you look in harbour-nationalrail.cpp it doesnt recopy the stationsDB.sqlite file if it already exists | 09:49 |
ghosalmartin | already theres a memory leak somewhere because the app decides to randomly not start | 09:49 |
ghosalmartin | it might be the new Database object :P | 09:49 |
Markkyboy | ahhhh, that's what causes the hang when starting the app | 09:50 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, well am not sure, something causes it to hang | 09:50 |
Markkyboy | but not always, sometimes the app starts really quickly | 09:51 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, thats the nature of mem leaks :P | 09:52 |
Markkyboy | I see, am looking at harbour-nationalrail.cpp and I can see the 'if file exists'......"Database does not exist, copying" - so, how do I get round this?, by manually copying file to device after install of app? | 09:57 |
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ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, uninstall the app then reinstall | 10:04 |
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Markkyboy | doesn't make any difference | 10:08 |
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ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, go in manually and make sure the files deleted | 10:23 |
ghosalmartin | tbf what you should do it make a network call to go get the stations manually and put them in the db | 10:24 |
ghosalmartin | that way its always up to date | 10:24 |
Markkyboy | manually removed, restarted app, new stations still not showing. | 10:27 |
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Markkyboy | nope, i think it fair to say, I don't get it. Will come back to it later, thanks for now Martin | 10:50 |
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blabber | is gps expected to work in sailfishx? | 14:24 |
jakibaki | blabber: Works for me (at least in aliendalvik) | 14:24 |
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blabber | hm. i have not tried it in aliendalvik yet :/ | 14:30 |
blabber | i guess i'll have to tinker around with this a little more. | 14:38 |
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M4rtinK | location seems to be doing something | 14:42 |
M4rtinK | once enabled in settings | 14:42 |
M4rtinK | still no real fix yet (looks like country wide default so far) | 14:43 |
M4rtinK | (in native app-modRana) | 14:44 |
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Markkyboy | @ghosalmartin - I exported stationsDB.sqlite to desktop and manually added 18 new stations, all are now showing in the app, yay! :) | 14:53 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, woop woop :D | 14:54 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, am guessing I ran some kind of script that did that basically at the time | 14:55 |
Markkyboy | either way, it's a cool application you've thrown together....how long did it take you to write/build? | 14:55 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, it was when I was first learning sfos apps, so think a week or so | 14:56 |
ghosalmartin | had massive help from quite a few peeps on this channel | 14:56 |
Markkyboy | wow, a week........excellent. | 14:56 |
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ghosalmartin | there was another train app for other countries | 14:57 |
ghosalmartin | but it allowed you to provide plugins | 14:57 |
Markkyboy | yes, I see shout-outs to those who helped,, they are dotted around certain files. | 14:57 |
Markkyboy | oh gawd, plugins, another thing for me to wrap my head around :P | 14:57 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, well just some code to connect it to the service and then transplant into there app | 14:58 |
Markkyboy | I came into this 4 years ago and have been teaching myself in between working, I have so much to learn. | 14:58 |
ghosalmartin | Markkyboy, i havent really done much sfos app development, mainly work on porting now | 14:59 |
Markkyboy | Yeah, easy when you know how isn't it :) - I can install a £20,000 conservatory in less than a week, but it took me years of practice - which I haven't had with coding and....I'm a slow learner! | 14:59 |
Markkyboy | cool, what is your latest port/project? | 15:00 |
ghosalmartin | ports have slowed down was working on the nexus 5x and doing building for the Xperia X | 15:05 |
M4rtinK | blabber, jakibaki: doesn't seem to work for native apps | 15:05 |
M4rtinK | still getting the default location & location icon in status bar blinking | 15:05 |
M4rtinK | for 20+ minutes | 15:05 |
Markkyboy | Cool, I notice a fair few features missing from the first release of SFOS for XsfosX | 15:06 |
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r0kk3rz | XsfosX? is that a new straight edge band? | 15:08 |
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Markkyboy | lol, it was a crap attempt at coining a new phrase for Xperia SFOS :D | 15:09 |
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r0kk3rz | sfX is probably appropriate for Sailfish X | 15:10 |
Markkyboy | right, now to stop Station messages from doubling up each time arrivals/departures are refreshed. | 15:11 |
Markkyboy | Agree @r0kk3rz, much easier...... | 15:11 |
* M4rtinK suggests calling it Sailfish XX | 15:12 | |
r0kk3rz | that seems like an odd abbreviation for Sailfish X :P | 15:15 |
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M4rtinK | or maybe even Sailfish XXX | 15:16 |
M4rtinK | AKA Sailfish tripple-X | 15:17 |
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M4rtinK | because it is Sailfish X on Xperia X | 15:17 |
nh1402[m] | that would imply Sailfish is only appropriate for people above the age of 18 or 21 in some places | 15:18 |
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LarstiQ | or those living in Amsterdam | 16:37 |
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M4rtinK | or Vin Diesel | 16:39 |
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LarstiQ | hmm, maybe people would think I'm Vin Diesel if I had Sailfish XXX | 16:40 |
leszek | still no Sailfish X here :/ | 16:41 |
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M4rtinK | because of the payment method limitations ? | 16:42 |
leszek | M4rtinK: exactly | 16:42 |
leszek | I don't have a credit card. And getting one only for Sailfish X is insane | 16:42 |
M4rtinK | well, Paypal in itself also isn't a good bet | 16:43 |
M4rtinK | https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/1-million-prusa-paypal-funds-frozen-101459/ | 16:43 |
M4rtinK | http://www.prusaprinters.org/warning-businesses-never-use-paypal-primary-payment-method/ | 16:43 |
M4rtinK | pretty similar case - you use Paypal for a successful project, they freeze your funds | 16:44 |
M4rtinK | + the cut Paypal takes on the transactions | 16:44 |
leszek | Yeah I know the problems with PayPal | 16:44 |
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M4rtinK | what about https://www.entropay.com/ or something like that ? | 16:45 |
leszek | though I don't see the issue why I can't pay like in every other online shop where it is allowed to play via a SEPA-transaction | 16:45 |
leszek | play xD pay I mean | 16:45 |
M4rtinK | well, that seems to be a regional thing | 16:45 |
louisdk | How do I transfer content from Jolla 1 to Xperia X? There no field called "Bluetooth sync" | 16:45 |
leszek | M4rtinK: yep searching for something like this. Though it will take about a week for a prepaid virtual credit card | 16:46 |
M4rtinK | it's generally also supported in Czech eshops, but haven't really seen in anywhere else | 16:46 |
leszek | you need to verify your bank account | 16:46 |
M4rtinK | louisdk: do a backup, extract the all.vcf file from it | 16:46 |
leszek | louisdk: I guess exporting all contacts as vcard and then importing it | 16:46 |
M4rtinK | louisdk: drop it on SDcard in X | 16:47 |
M4rtinK | import that | 16:47 |
M4rtinK | that's what I did yesterday | 16:47 |
M4rtinK | likely the missing Bluetooth functionality is at fault here | 16:47 |
leszek | M4rtinK: I read about Bluetooth being supported for playing back media like headsets and so on | 16:48 |
M4rtinK | yeah, heard that as well | 16:48 |
leszek | So in general some bluetooth features aren't supported | 16:48 |
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M4rtinK | haven't tried yet myself | 16:48 |
M4rtinK | likely some of the profiles are still missing | 16:49 |
leszek | I had a plan layed out what to present and test and creating a video. I wanted to do that all yesterday. Though that plan failed due me not able to get Sailfish X | 16:49 |
LarstiQ | :/ | 16:49 |
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M4rtinK | leszek: you should have backed the tablet like me and you would not have had such issues :) | 17:08 |
M4rtinK | no payment issues at all that way ;-) | 17:09 |
leszek | M4rtinK: I have backed the tablet and lying it around here in my kitchen as surfstation :P | 17:09 |
leszek | I also made tablet review videos btw. :P | 17:09 |
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M4rtinK | so you were lucky (got the tablet) and unlucky (can't use the refund to pay for Sailfish X) at once :-) | 17:11 |
leszek | guess my luck ran out. After being one of the fews who actually got a tablet :=) | 17:11 |
M-schmittlauch | leszek: I could trade a Jolla Tablet Refund code fpr getting SailfishX for money sent via SEPA if you want to do that. | 17:11 |
M4rtinK | that should work - the voucher is just a code you enter in Jolla shop | 17:11 |
leszek | M-schmittlauch: I also have a Jolla C voucher so basically I have to pay 39,90 | 17:11 |
leszek | M-schmittlauch: thanks. I will take a look after I find time again. My sister has a prepaid credit card and I asked here already | 17:12 |
M-schmittlauch | ok | 17:12 |
leszek | so she will transfer money to her card and I will be able to buy Sailfish X | 17:13 |
M4rtinK | see how Sailfish X is strengthening the overall community - making people cooperate ? ;-) | 17:14 |
leszek | though that will take some days. And I am not home for the next week so no one should expect video reviews or tutorials in the next week. I will get my hands on Sailfish X most likely next weekend | 17:14 |
leszek | so not this weekend | 17:14 |
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Ingvix | They've really made pulleymenus hard to improvise with. There seems to be no possibility to have a quickselectable item that wouldn't close the menu when selected. If this would be possible it would really widen the possibilities of the pulleymenus | 17:45 |
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Ingvix | well, basicly it's possible but can't get the highlight bar to attach the item so it look and feel kinda bad | 17:48 |
Ingvix | *attach to | 17:49 |
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r0kk3rz | why would you want to do that? | 17:52 |
blabber | M4rtinK, GPS worked with modRana on my SailfishX. Just had to leave the building to get the GPS fix | 17:53 |
Ingvix | r0kk3rz, so I could place a textfield in the menu and change the focus to it without opening the whole menu and then tapping the field | 17:54 |
r0kk3rz | that sounds like not a pully menu, but a drawer instead | 17:54 |
Ingvix | well, true but wouldn't hurt to have the possibility | 17:56 |
r0kk3rz | you can always make your own components :P | 17:58 |
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Ingvix | yes, but it's always a joy if you can use the system component when ever possible | 18:01 |
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ghosalmartin | Mister_Magister, can you upload those bluez rpms somewhere | 18:03 |
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M4rtinK | blabber: interesting - I'll try that as well | 18:04 |
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Jef91 | So in theory if someone in the US used a VPN to purchase the Sailfish OS image for the Sony X would it work for them without issues? | 18:25 |
ghosalmartin | yes | 18:25 |
Jef91 | Or do the images have region specific support / features | 18:25 |
ghosalmartin | disclaimer i take no responsibility, i cant see there being region specific issues tbh but who knows | 18:25 |
pavi[m] | Modem? GSM? Hope its similar modem. | 18:25 |
Jef91 | Yea, sometimes devices have different modems, but I think the unlocked ones are all the same? | 18:26 |
ghosalmartin | well doesnt eh sony xperia X work in the US | 18:26 |
Jef91 | Correct. I have an unlocked version I'm using with Android now. | 18:26 |
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keithzg[m] | Is the modem firmware even necessarily something you'd need to flash as part of flashing SailfishX? | 18:41 |
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keithzg[m] | I remember with my Nexus 4 I was even able to get it running atop a far newer version of CyanogenMod (at the time) and the radio firmware just by way of an explicit systemd mount. So I'd imagine even if you'd need different firmware for the US model, there's a way :) | 18:42 |
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r0kk3rz | in the Xperia X's case, i dont think it is a different model | 18:44 |
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Ingvix | so my RegExpValidator sees it as a no character case if the typed word is in the autocomplete mode | 18:58 |
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Ingvix | is there any other way around this than disabling the predictive mode | 18:59 |
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M4rtinK_phone_ | blabber: yep, got GPS lock in the end | 21:59 |
M4rtinK_phone_ | just tookvsome time outside | 22:00 |
M4rtinK_phone_ | hopefully it's just the initial lock | 22:00 |
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