Monday, 2017-10-16

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Mister_Magisterhmmm do we need another patch? :D https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/severe-flaw-in-wpa2-protocol-leaves-wi-fi-traffic-open-to-eavesdropping/08:44
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Sailor3875mazelock stop working with the new update09:42
Sailor3875hope for an update soon09:42
pisarz1958@Mister_Magister we need a new wifi09:44
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r0kk3rznew wifey :)09:45
pisarz1958waifu09:46
Mister_Magisterpisarz1958: i like your idea (with waifu)09:46
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tadzikExplaining this to non-techies is funny09:51
Mister_Magistertadzik: what?09:52
tadzik“treat every wifi as a public one, where everyone sees everything you do” - “what, they can do that?”09:52
Mister_Magister:D09:52
Mister_Magisterconnect ethernet to your phone09:53
tadzikI barely bother with wifi on the phone since roaming charges were dropped :)09:55
r0kk3rzyeah same09:56
r0kk3rzso much better just having 4g everywhere09:56
Teguinb4 some 4g exploit is found09:56
r0kk3rzfuuuuuu09:57
tadzikComing up next week: sniff on ethernet cables by watching their em spectrum09:57
tadzikWhere did I put my tricoder...09:58
Mister_Magisterlately there is one bug after another10:00
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Mister_Magisteri'll go back to my c64 without internet only floppy disks10:04
Mister_Magisterwhat if i record some audio on Compact Cassette and then run it as program10:05
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Mister_Magisteror play program as audio10:06
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pisarz1958I like how vulns got all these cool names lately10:53
pisarz1958like heartbleed10:54
pisarz1958blueborne10:54
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jwalckI find it kind of annoying that you need a logo and domain to make people notice an important CVE, but from time to time they can be amusing, of course:)10:58
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r0kk3rzdepends on how user facing the problem is11:02
r0kk3rzi can see reasons for the marketing wank if you want ordinary people to take notice11:03
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jwalckordinary people never care, not even if it makes their hearts bleed:)11:16
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Blizzzwell… Walletdrain perhaps?11:32
r0kk3rzpretty sure ordinary people cared about wannacry11:36
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Coolgeekhow much did you buy your Xperia X ?12:00
r0kk3rzso much buy12:04
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Mister_Magisterlooking for some cal/carddav serice that works with sfos12:13
Mister_Magisterany idea? tried two and didn't work12:13
tadzikI use mine with nextcloud, at least for caldav12:15
tadzikI wouldn't say it works well, but it works :)12:15
Mister_Magisteri'm using davical caldav is working but carddav have problem with database it's so annoying12:16
Mister_Magisterand i'm not interested in putting whole nextcloud12:16
r0kk3rz*dav that works? you're asking too much12:17
Mister_Magisterr0kk3rz: why? caldav is working12:17
Mister_Magisterdavical have problem with carddav or it's sfos problem12:17
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fledermaussoo. krackattack.12:48
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fledermausaiui clients need to be patched - should we be looking out for a fix?12:48
r0kk3rzim sure jolla is onto it12:49
fledermausassuming it wasn't in Kiiminkijoki.12:49
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iHuskyhi13:10
iHuskyI have question can  someone create a native client for google music on sailfishOS?13:11
Mister_Magisterguess it's impossible13:12
r0kk3rzits probably not impossible, but someone needs to reverse engineer the protocol13:13
Mister_Magisteryeah like messenger13:13
r0kk3rzand then play whatever cat and mouse games google wants to play13:13
Mister_Magisterhttps://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com/ well maybe someone can do somethign with this13:14
Mister_Magisterthis is probably web wrapper or something like that13:15
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iHuskyI really need this because there is no good music app on sailfishOS13:16
Mister_Magisteractually there is13:17
Mister_Magisterimo QuasarMX is the best of all players13:17
r0kk3rziHusky: then develop one13:18
Mister_Magisteri bought both pro and ea versions of quasarmx 10/1013:19
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r0kk3rzmusic is quite personal, both in terms of what you listen to and *how* you listen to it13:20
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Mister_Magisterthat's why i added "imo"13:20
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iHuskyyes, but that is a problem that my collection is build from many albums and on google music I have arrange in 12 albums but on this player my songs will be scattered13:23
iHuskyand I hate manually add all songs, I need wireless sync13:23
louisdkAre there others in this group who are sad that Jolla did choose the Xperia XZ instead?13:24
iHuskyI wanna buy Xperia X to run android apps, but I don`t have money at now13:24
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iHuskyI mean run android apps on sailfishos13:25
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blapdoes it come with alien dalvik iHusky13:33
Mister_Magisterxperia xz? what?13:33
iHuskyyes but on Xperia X not Xiaomi Redmi Note 413:33
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iHuskyI don`t know Xperia XZ is not supported13:34
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blapi don't need google to listen to music15:47
r0kk3rzbut how else will they suggest new music for you to stream?15:48
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locusfspiiroin: ping, how do I set permanent -P and -j enabled on mce?15:54
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Mister_Magisterpatchset for KRACK attacks however it's for desktop16:34
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_svenin which file are the carddav account data stored?17:22
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_svensomeone using carddav?17:46
_svengot a problem to connect to my local nextcloud addressbook17:46
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blapno idea what that is17:52
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edgar2_sven: i never got carddav working on jolla118:03
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_svenedgar2: on tjc i read it should work with nextcloud/owncloud. But i always get error 401. CalDav works well.18:29
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_svenhah, it works, carddav synced my contacts18:50
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edgar2Good to hear.18:58
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sakustarblap: you should need google for everything!19:02
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Znurrehi, just a question about silica UI design for anyone who wants to offer input :)19:32
ZnurreI am working on an app with 2 pages, one page with a music browser more or less, displaying songs, and once the user taps a song it will get added to a playlist on the second page which is the playlist page, always accessible with one swipe from anywhere in the app19:32
Znurrethe question is how to best indicate to the user that the song was added to the playlist, since both views are not shown at the same time19:33
Znurrea notification is ofc a possibility, but feels a bit "too much" for such a feature19:33
r0kk3rzive got a similar design for my music player app, but single press is 'play now' and long press displays the 'add to playlist' button19:34
Znurrer0kk3rz: yeah, that's certainly a possibility, the thing though is that my app is centered around the playlist (which should perhaps rather be seen as the play queue), and I want it to be easy to add songs to it19:35
r0kk3rzsure, you could probably do some highlight animation or something to indicate that something has happened19:36
Znurreyeah, I could invent something, just asking for input to see if something similar has been done before or if anyone has any opinion on what would be intuitive19:37
ZnurreI've been thinking about cloning the item with some opacity, sliding it to the right (towards the playlist), which would explain the action quite well I think19:37
Znurrebut I haven't seen such design in any other app :)19:38
Znurreit doesn't feel very "silica" somehow, but idk19:38
r0kk3rzi think it does, if you look at the jolla apps they're all about smooth animations to indicate things19:38
r0kk3rzlike the double flash on the pulley menu19:39
r0kk3rzhttps://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player19:40
r0kk3rzthats mine, and for the most part I dont use too many standard silica components19:41
Znurrecool :)19:41
Znurrewill take a look19:41
r0kk3rztheres a build on openrepos if you want to try it19:41
r0kk3rzor mer OBS19:42
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Znurresorry, was on phone ^^19:44
ZnurreI'll try it out and look for inspiration :)19:44
r0kk3rzits a similar dual screen design to what you were saying, as well as a 'play queue' not play list19:44
Znurreyea, I just call it "playlist", perhaps confusing19:45
Znurreit's just that I am used to that kind of design from desktop media players19:45
r0kk3rzdid you perhaps used to use wincue?19:45
Znurrewhere you have a playlist which is both a semi-persistent playlist and play queue19:45
Znurrenope I didn't19:45
Znurrebut it's designed after most desktop media players, such as Amarok, Winamp, Foobar2000, etc19:46
r0kk3rzyeah cool19:46
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r0kk3rzwincue was a winamp plugin19:47
Znurrealso, just FYI it's not really a competitor to your app, since it's a Subsonic client :P19:47
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r0kk3rzim not concerned about competition, i havent really been actively developing it for a few years now19:47
Znurreah ok19:47
r0kk3rzi built it for myself mostly :)19:47
Znurreyeah, same goes for me, mine has been sitting on my disk for 1.5 years or more19:48
r0kk3rzbut i made it so might as well share it19:48
Znurreand finally last weekend I pulled my shit together and fixed the last remaining rough edges19:48
ZnurreI knew that there was no really good Subsonic music client for Sailfish, so I felt I was filling a gap :)19:48
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r0kk3rzim sure someone out there would appreciate it19:48
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blapthanks for pointing out your player r0kk3rz20:22
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r0kk3rzblap: theres a few others around as well20:31
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blapi am using unplayer20:32
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blaphmm unit is unresponsive20:33
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Domo_hello from fingerterm on sailfishx21:28
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rydarehello Domo_ i'm jealous21:38
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