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Mister_Magister | hmmm do we need another patch? :D https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/severe-flaw-in-wpa2-protocol-leaves-wi-fi-traffic-open-to-eavesdropping/ | 08:44 |
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Sailor3875 | mazelock stop working with the new update | 09:42 |
Sailor3875 | hope for an update soon | 09:42 |
pisarz1958 | @Mister_Magister we need a new wifi | 09:44 |
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r0kk3rz | new wifey :) | 09:45 |
pisarz1958 | waifu | 09:46 |
Mister_Magister | pisarz1958: i like your idea (with waifu) | 09:46 |
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tadzik | Explaining this to non-techies is funny | 09:51 |
Mister_Magister | tadzik: what? | 09:52 |
tadzik | “treat every wifi as a public one, where everyone sees everything you do” - “what, they can do that?” | 09:52 |
Mister_Magister | :D | 09:52 |
Mister_Magister | connect ethernet to your phone | 09:53 |
tadzik | I barely bother with wifi on the phone since roaming charges were dropped :) | 09:55 |
r0kk3rz | yeah same | 09:56 |
r0kk3rz | so much better just having 4g everywhere | 09:56 |
Tegu | inb4 some 4g exploit is found | 09:56 |
r0kk3rz | fuuuuuu | 09:57 |
tadzik | Coming up next week: sniff on ethernet cables by watching their em spectrum | 09:57 |
tadzik | Where did I put my tricoder... | 09:58 |
Mister_Magister | lately there is one bug after another | 10:00 |
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Mister_Magister | i'll go back to my c64 without internet only floppy disks | 10:04 |
Mister_Magister | what if i record some audio on Compact Cassette and then run it as program | 10:05 |
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Mister_Magister | or play program as audio | 10:06 |
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pisarz1958 | I like how vulns got all these cool names lately | 10:53 |
pisarz1958 | like heartbleed | 10:54 |
pisarz1958 | blueborne | 10:54 |
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jwalck | I find it kind of annoying that you need a logo and domain to make people notice an important CVE, but from time to time they can be amusing, of course:) | 10:58 |
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r0kk3rz | depends on how user facing the problem is | 11:02 |
r0kk3rz | i can see reasons for the marketing wank if you want ordinary people to take notice | 11:03 |
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jwalck | ordinary people never care, not even if it makes their hearts bleed:) | 11:16 |
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Blizzz | well… Walletdrain perhaps? | 11:32 |
r0kk3rz | pretty sure ordinary people cared about wannacry | 11:36 |
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Coolgeek | how much did you buy your Xperia X ? | 12:00 |
r0kk3rz | so much buy | 12:04 |
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Mister_Magister | looking for some cal/carddav serice that works with sfos | 12:13 |
Mister_Magister | any idea? tried two and didn't work | 12:13 |
tadzik | I use mine with nextcloud, at least for caldav | 12:15 |
tadzik | I wouldn't say it works well, but it works :) | 12:15 |
Mister_Magister | i'm using davical caldav is working but carddav have problem with database it's so annoying | 12:16 |
Mister_Magister | and i'm not interested in putting whole nextcloud | 12:16 |
r0kk3rz | *dav that works? you're asking too much | 12:17 |
Mister_Magister | r0kk3rz: why? caldav is working | 12:17 |
Mister_Magister | davical have problem with carddav or it's sfos problem | 12:17 |
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fledermaus | soo. krackattack. | 12:48 |
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fledermaus | aiui clients need to be patched - should we be looking out for a fix? | 12:48 |
r0kk3rz | im sure jolla is onto it | 12:49 |
fledermaus | assuming it wasn't in Kiiminkijoki. | 12:49 |
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iHusky | hi | 13:10 |
iHusky | I have question can someone create a native client for google music on sailfishOS? | 13:11 |
Mister_Magister | guess it's impossible | 13:12 |
r0kk3rz | its probably not impossible, but someone needs to reverse engineer the protocol | 13:13 |
Mister_Magister | yeah like messenger | 13:13 |
r0kk3rz | and then play whatever cat and mouse games google wants to play | 13:13 |
Mister_Magister | https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com/ well maybe someone can do somethign with this | 13:14 |
Mister_Magister | this is probably web wrapper or something like that | 13:15 |
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iHusky | I really need this because there is no good music app on sailfishOS | 13:16 |
Mister_Magister | actually there is | 13:17 |
Mister_Magister | imo QuasarMX is the best of all players | 13:17 |
r0kk3rz | iHusky: then develop one | 13:18 |
Mister_Magister | i bought both pro and ea versions of quasarmx 10/10 | 13:19 |
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r0kk3rz | music is quite personal, both in terms of what you listen to and *how* you listen to it | 13:20 |
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Mister_Magister | that's why i added "imo" | 13:20 |
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iHusky | yes, but that is a problem that my collection is build from many albums and on google music I have arrange in 12 albums but on this player my songs will be scattered | 13:23 |
iHusky | and I hate manually add all songs, I need wireless sync | 13:23 |
louisdk | Are there others in this group who are sad that Jolla did choose the Xperia XZ instead? | 13:24 |
iHusky | I wanna buy Xperia X to run android apps, but I don`t have money at now | 13:24 |
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iHusky | I mean run android apps on sailfishos | 13:25 |
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blap | does it come with alien dalvik iHusky | 13:33 |
Mister_Magister | xperia xz? what? | 13:33 |
iHusky | yes but on Xperia X not Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 | 13:33 |
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iHusky | I don`t know Xperia XZ is not supported | 13:34 |
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blap | i don't need google to listen to music | 15:47 |
r0kk3rz | but how else will they suggest new music for you to stream? | 15:48 |
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locusf | spiiroin: ping, how do I set permanent -P and -j enabled on mce? | 15:54 |
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Mister_Magister | patchset for KRACK attacks however it's for desktop | 16:34 |
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_sven | in which file are the carddav account data stored? | 17:22 |
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_sven | someone using carddav? | 17:46 |
_sven | got a problem to connect to my local nextcloud addressbook | 17:46 |
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blap | no idea what that is | 17:52 |
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edgar2 | _sven: i never got carddav working on jolla1 | 18:03 |
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_sven | edgar2: on tjc i read it should work with nextcloud/owncloud. But i always get error 401. CalDav works well. | 18:29 |
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_sven | hah, it works, carddav synced my contacts | 18:50 |
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edgar2 | Good to hear. | 18:58 |
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sakustar | blap: you should need google for everything! | 19:02 |
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Znurre | hi, just a question about silica UI design for anyone who wants to offer input :) | 19:32 |
Znurre | I am working on an app with 2 pages, one page with a music browser more or less, displaying songs, and once the user taps a song it will get added to a playlist on the second page which is the playlist page, always accessible with one swipe from anywhere in the app | 19:32 |
Znurre | the question is how to best indicate to the user that the song was added to the playlist, since both views are not shown at the same time | 19:33 |
Znurre | a notification is ofc a possibility, but feels a bit "too much" for such a feature | 19:33 |
r0kk3rz | ive got a similar design for my music player app, but single press is 'play now' and long press displays the 'add to playlist' button | 19:34 |
Znurre | r0kk3rz: yeah, that's certainly a possibility, the thing though is that my app is centered around the playlist (which should perhaps rather be seen as the play queue), and I want it to be easy to add songs to it | 19:35 |
r0kk3rz | sure, you could probably do some highlight animation or something to indicate that something has happened | 19:36 |
Znurre | yeah, I could invent something, just asking for input to see if something similar has been done before or if anyone has any opinion on what would be intuitive | 19:37 |
Znurre | I've been thinking about cloning the item with some opacity, sliding it to the right (towards the playlist), which would explain the action quite well I think | 19:37 |
Znurre | but I haven't seen such design in any other app :) | 19:38 |
Znurre | it doesn't feel very "silica" somehow, but idk | 19:38 |
r0kk3rz | i think it does, if you look at the jolla apps they're all about smooth animations to indicate things | 19:38 |
r0kk3rz | like the double flash on the pulley menu | 19:39 |
r0kk3rz | https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player | 19:40 |
r0kk3rz | thats mine, and for the most part I dont use too many standard silica components | 19:41 |
Znurre | cool :) | 19:41 |
Znurre | will take a look | 19:41 |
r0kk3rz | theres a build on openrepos if you want to try it | 19:41 |
r0kk3rz | or mer OBS | 19:42 |
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Znurre | sorry, was on phone ^^ | 19:44 |
Znurre | I'll try it out and look for inspiration :) | 19:44 |
r0kk3rz | its a similar dual screen design to what you were saying, as well as a 'play queue' not play list | 19:44 |
Znurre | yea, I just call it "playlist", perhaps confusing | 19:45 |
Znurre | it's just that I am used to that kind of design from desktop media players | 19:45 |
r0kk3rz | did you perhaps used to use wincue? | 19:45 |
Znurre | where you have a playlist which is both a semi-persistent playlist and play queue | 19:45 |
Znurre | nope I didn't | 19:45 |
Znurre | but it's designed after most desktop media players, such as Amarok, Winamp, Foobar2000, etc | 19:46 |
r0kk3rz | yeah cool | 19:46 |
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r0kk3rz | wincue was a winamp plugin | 19:47 |
Znurre | also, just FYI it's not really a competitor to your app, since it's a Subsonic client :P | 19:47 |
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r0kk3rz | im not concerned about competition, i havent really been actively developing it for a few years now | 19:47 |
Znurre | ah ok | 19:47 |
r0kk3rz | i built it for myself mostly :) | 19:47 |
Znurre | yeah, same goes for me, mine has been sitting on my disk for 1.5 years or more | 19:48 |
r0kk3rz | but i made it so might as well share it | 19:48 |
Znurre | and finally last weekend I pulled my shit together and fixed the last remaining rough edges | 19:48 |
Znurre | I knew that there was no really good Subsonic music client for Sailfish, so I felt I was filling a gap :) | 19:48 |
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r0kk3rz | im sure someone out there would appreciate it | 19:48 |
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blap | thanks for pointing out your player r0kk3rz | 20:22 |
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r0kk3rz | blap: theres a few others around as well | 20:31 |
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blap | i am using unplayer | 20:32 |
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blap | hmm unit is unresponsive | 20:33 |
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Domo_ | hello from fingerterm on sailfishx | 21:28 |
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rydare | hello Domo_ i'm jealous | 21:38 |
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