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| entil | sigh, it's been a week since I could think about installing on the xperia x, and now I feel I have to ask again to be safe.. the only purpose, on that phone, to back up the drm keys is if I want to go back to the android installation? there's no funky camera de-shake algorithms or hardware-accelerated codecs that will work if I have the keys but otherwise break? | 13:44 |
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| leszek | entil: basically thats the point | 13:45 |
| entil | leszek: that I can go back? | 13:46 |
| leszek | yep | 13:46 |
| leszek | to the official sony stuff | 13:46 |
| entil | because I feel like the XZ would have actually required the drm keys for some functionality | 13:46 |
| entil | this is not the XZ but this got me thinking that I don't want to lose out on some undocumented or unsupported benefit | 13:47 |
| leszek | as far as I am aware it is for some denoise algos and hdr and better photo performance | 13:47 |
| entil | on the XZ only, yes? | 13:47 |
| hahlo | btw if you compare sailfish in jolla and sony, do all the same things work? | 13:48 |
| leszek | entil: on pretty much all xperia devices | 13:48 |
| entil | leszek: err, so why would I _not_ want denoise algos and better photo performance? or is it that sailfish doesn't know how to utilize the drm keys? | 13:49 |
| leszek | hahlo: you did not see my video about photo performance? | 13:49 |
| entil | because the whole downgrade hassle just to be able to go back is not worth it to me, I won't go back, but better photos might just be | 13:49 |
| leszek | entil: exactly sailfish is not allowed to use them | 13:49 |
| hahlo | leszek: no I havent seen it | 13:49 |
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| entil | leszek: is not allowed, meaning unable to even if they're there? | 13:50 |
| leszek | hahlo: https://youtu.be/aEE91Hayv20 | 13:50 |
| leszek | entil: exactly | 13:50 |
| abranson | 'use them' isn't really the correct phrase | 13:50 |
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| entil | sometimes things are not allowed but they work in undocumented ways | 13:50 |
| entil | abranson: why's that? | 13:51 |
| leszek | entil: if you don't know how to access them it isn't possible | 13:51 |
| abranson | the effects you're talking about are implemented in sony's android camera app. the keys are just the mechanism that app uses to decide whether to enable them or not. | 13:51 |
| entil | and as these are not implemented in sailfish's camera app, it doesn't matter | 13:51 |
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| abranson | exactly | 13:51 |
| entil | then I thank you for sparing me the hurdle of downgrading to get the drm keys and upgrading again, and I'll just install sailfish as soon as I can :) | 13:52 |
| abranson | just make sure you get that android version upgraded OTA before you unlock | 13:52 |
| leszek | :) | 13:53 |
| abranson | it's a lot easier than messing around with Emma etc | 13:53 |
| entil | I "wasted" all the time I had for installation a week ago on the damned OTA updates :D | 13:53 |
| hahlo | leszek: nice video, good quality, but does calls and sms work? | 13:53 |
| entil | of course I'll recheck if there's anything new come out within that week, but I reached a version great enough to install sailfish according to the docs | 13:54 |
| leszek | hahlo: yep that works of course | 13:54 |
| hahlo | cool | 13:54 |
| leszek | hahlo: I will make a first impression video aswell. It would be a bit unfair to call it review as jolla promised updates and the OS is beta basically for the Xperia X currently | 13:54 |
| hahlo | good | 13:55 |
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| hahlo | I was once in dev group who make ipaq linux for the gsm model, so I know how hard is route a voice and sms, it was ti omap device | 13:57 |
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| blap | have any of you managed to load your sim account with a certification code over sms? | 14:19 |
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| weis[m] | Should the loudspeker on xperia work on sailfish? I can turn it on and off but it sounds the same for me. | 19:08 |
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| blap | DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY BACTERIAL INFECTION? | 22:15 |
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