Tuesday, 2018-01-02

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Sfiet_Konstantin!seen chriadam00:38
merbotSfiet_Konstantin: chriadam was last seen in #sailfishos 25 weeks, 0 days, 17 hours, 1 minute, and 42 seconds ago: <chriadam> devel-su chroot /opt/alien /system/bin/logcat00:38
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r0kk3rzSfiet_Konstantin: chris is usually around, that last seen is a bit deceptive09:08
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marmistrzIs it possible to somehow make a screenshot from the power menu?12:10
marmistrzI know about volume up+down combo, but it doesn't work very well on my (ported) device12:11
stephgmarmistrz: you can do it from the commandline12:11
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marmistrzI found PowerMenu 2, much more useful than the stock one :)15:32
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marmistrzIt it possible to have something like a status bar?17:19
marmistrzwhen using the device I often forget that I'm on mobile data17:19
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marmistrzand that I should switch back to wifi17:19
tortoisedocmarmistrz : there's a "status" bar in the home/event/lockscreen?17:26
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tortoisedoc(remaining battery, wifi, etc)17:27
tortoisedoccan someone help me with a bluetooth isseu17:30
tortoisedoccan someone help me with a bluetooth issue17:30
tortoisedocit seems the msyncd is not able to recognize xperia x17:30
tortoisedoc's bt devices17:30
tortoisedocas the dbus interface it's using to poll is apparently available only on the OTH hardware17:31
tortoisedocI guess this has something to do with bluez5 vs bluez4?17:31
tortoisedochrm chriadam is not here ofcourse17:32
tortoisedocping pvuorela ^17:33
r0kk3rzwhy do you call it the 'OTH'17:48
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tortoisedocThe OTher Half? :)17:56
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : ^17:56
* tortoisedoc suddently feels really old17:56
tortoisedocif noone rememers even what OTH means in here17:57
Liekeit's usually TOH17:57
tortoisedocwe have gone a long way17:57
r0kk3rzits werid, stop it :P17:57
r0kk3rzjphone or jolla 117:57
r0kk3rzor jp-130117:57
tortoisedocor OTH :P17:57
Liekealso the half is just a half, i.e. not the whole phone17:57
tortoisedoc(just kidding)17:57
tortoisedocpoint is, the link above17:58
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tortoisedocbluez seems to have completely differnt interface on sfos x17:58
r0kk3rzyeah it does17:58
tortoisedoc*seems to be using completely different interface17:59
r0kk3rzbecause bluez517:59
tortoisedocok yes17:59
tortoisedocso that confirms my theory17:59
tortoisedocI guess then there's no msyncd for bluez5 yet17:59
r0kk3rzno idea, bluez5 has been around a while though17:59
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : on sfos you mean?18:00
tortoisedocwell apparently even tho its been around TOH does not seem to be using it :P18:00
tortoisedoc(guess due to hw reasons)18:00
tortoisedocits a pity they broke the compatibility with the bluez518:01
r0kk3rzkernel reasons18:01
tortoisedoci guess the dbus interfaces come with the component18:01
r0kk3rzbut jolla c is using bluez518:01
tortoisedocthought bluez is userspace?18:01
r0kk3rzit is18:01
tortoisedoc(im total noob with regards to bt btw)18:02
r0kk3rzbut it requires new stuff in the kernel :P18:02
r0kk3rzthat jphone doesnt have18:02
tortoisedocyeah ok18:02
r0kk3rzbut phones with 3.10 kernel do have18:02
tortoisedocso the question is18:02
marmistrztortoisedoc, thanks, for some reason it was not displayed, but now it's there18:02
tortoisedochow to properly support bluez 418:03
malbased on git repo https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/buteo-syncfw/tree/bluez5/msyncd msyncd has had commits related to bluez518:03
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tortoisedocmal : funny the master I have on my local disk gives a different version of the file18:05
tortoisedoc(freshly checked out)18:05
tortoisedocs/checked out/cloned18:06
tortoisedocand btw I noticed this on SFOSXperia X18:06
tortoisedocmal : this is the error I get when launching msynd with log info [W] unknown:0 - This device does not have a BT adapter18:06
tortoisedocmal :  from libbuteosyncfw/common/TransportTracker.cpp18:07
maltortoisedoc: it seems the bluez5 branch I was looking is not merged to master18:08
tortoisedocmal : booia18:08
r0kk3rzinteresting, those commits are fairly old too18:09
r0kk3rzi guess you need to talk to chris18:09
malwondering why, did they have some issues or just forgot18:09
malthat could be some wip code18:09
tortoisedocits quite a big thing18:09
tortoisedocthis breaks msyncd over bt18:09
tortoisedocwould be surprising if it "just got lost"18:10
malor maybe priorities18:10
tortoisedocI guess I could try to merge in locally and deploy18:11
tortoisedocon xperia18:11
tortoisedocbut if its one year old code :O18:11
tortoisedocthere will be bugs18:11
tortoisedocyes this is definitely some sort of wip code18:15
tortoisedocTransportTracker has on bluez5 branch an #if without a closing #endif18:15
tortoisedocperhaps some backup by someone who then "left"18:16
tortoisedocmal : question is, if msyncd is moved to bluez5, how do we support bluez4?18:26
tortoisedocperhaps the approach taken in this branch was not correct?18:26
tortoisedoc(as in to implement support directly @ msyncd level)18:26
tortoisedocmsyncd should work with both versions?18:27
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tortoisedocwhere's chriadam when you need him :P18:31
r0kk3rzwhere he normally is, in australia18:32
r0kk3rzso you need to catch him in appropriate hours for his timezone :P18:33
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* tortoisedoc goes and opens a foster in the meantime18:34
tortoisedochmm the rebase does not seemt to have big issues18:35
tortoisedoca few conflicts on TransportTracker and the .pro18:35
tortoisedocbut nothing too alarming18:35
tortoisedoclets see if it compiles.18:35
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tortoisedocok while this is compiling18:55
tortoisedocthe difference in the font object of pointSize vs pixelSize is the bezels, right?18:55
r0kk3rzbezels? you mean dpi?18:57
tortoisedocr0kk3rz :  yeah or whatever the screen-size-independent measure is18:57
tortoisedocjust noticed quickbars text on xperiax is amazingly  tiny18:58
r0kk3rzyeah there are a whole bunch of apps not really written to scale properly18:58
tortoisedocyeah I believe there's a system style font18:59
tortoisedocin silica18:59
r0kk3rztheme.fontsizelarge and such19:00
locusfhows it going tortoisedoc19:04
tortoisedoclocusf thanks great hows things over ther19:04
locusfgreat here too :)19:05
locusfhows the pure port going19:05
tortoisedoclocusf : got wifi working :) havent had time to get things rolling19:05
tortoisedocbut considering the youyota delays might make sense to actually start looking into it again :)19:06
locusfok cool :)19:06
tortoisedocthe wifi was tricky19:06
tortoisedocit was crashing due to some missingg kernel def's which were causing the driver to include structs from header files in incomplete forms (due to the define's)19:07
tortoisedocand to solve that, I had to dig out some really old define19:07
tortoisedocbut now its working, 4.7 booting and wifi ok19:08
tortoisedoconly thing remanining is lipstick / mesa19:08
tortoisedoclocusf : I was thinking to flash the kernel + driver over to the tablet19:08
tortoisedocso I can get rid of the crappy usb nfs mount19:08
tortoisedocany good guide on flashing?19:09
tortoisedocmaybe I should go over to sailfish-porters :P19:10
locusfheheh okay19:11
locusfdepends, whats the device19:12
locusfand bootloader19:12
maltortoisedoc: which pure port?19:13
tortoisedocmal : teclast kindow-x8919:14
tortoisedocbootloader hmm i have no idea19:14
tortoisedoclocusf : it dualboots into android19:15
tortoisedocor windwos19:15
locusferm wtf19:15
tortoisedoclocusf : can I find out which bootloader it's using?19:15
tortoisedocfor the record, bluez5-rebased buteo-syncfw  built fine19:16
locusfits bios then19:17
locusfdo you know if you could somehow live-cd that?19:17
tortoisedocamerican megatrends19:17
tortoisedocthe bios?19:17
tortoisedocwell it should be possible; if the kernel is atom-compatible19:18
locusfthats your flashing then19:18
locusfjust dd19:18
locusffrom a live-cd19:18
locusfto a unmounted partition19:19
locusfno idea if mesa would work19:20
locusfits bay trail19:20
tortoisedocoh cmon did they move ip behind devel-su??19:22
tortoisedoclocusf : hrm i thought mesa is *the* way for baytrail?19:22
tortoisedocmaybe i got it wrong?19:22
locusfwell as said, no idea19:25
locusfonly one way to find out :)19:27
locusftry it19:27
tortoisedocthere is no try :P19:27
tortoisedocdo or dont :P19:27
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tortoisedocany particular reason for the mesa vs baytrail thought?19:28
tortoisedocdang msyncd crashes19:29
tortoisedocmalloc fails ;_;19:29
marmistrzDoes anyone know how to import my Stardict dictionary collection into SailyDict?19:30
locusfI remember some comments about it from tbr19:30
locusfmaybe it was more cherry trail19:30
marmistrzI tried copying the triplets (.ifo, .dict.dz, .idx) to ~/.local/share/Dictionaries19:30
tortoisedocping tbr19:30
marmistrzbut they are not picked up19:30
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tbrtortoisedoc: eh?19:31
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tortoisedoctbr : discussing mesa's baytrail vs cherrytrail support with locusf ^ and your nick popped in the discussion19:32
tortoisedoclocusf mentioned there might be issues with mesa on baytrail19:32
tortoisedocthought he might have gotten it from you19:32
locusfalso atom19:32
tbrbaytrail should be still OSS (I might be wrong), but cherry trail needs a blob for sure19:33
locusfand weird tablet19:33
locusfI'm not expecting as easy of a ride as with minnowmax19:33
tbrwhich is it BT or CHT?19:33
tortoisedoclocusf : you mean kindow? so far its been a breeze :P19:33
tbrha, yes, that was easy19:33
tortoisedoc(the tablet, the kernel has been the pain)19:34
tbrBT shouldn't be toooo hard19:34
tortoisedoccherrytrail is not oss you say?19:34
tortoisedocthats weird19:34
tbrcht was more of a windows chip for some reason19:34
tbralso they dragged their feet on that blob for accelerated graphics afaiu19:35
tbrwell, now intel ships AMD cores for graphics :D19:35
locusfyou have i915 and i930 drm enabled in kernel?19:35
tortoisedoctbr : w0t? amd cores??19:36
tortoisedoci915 yes, i930 not19:36
tortoisedoclocusf ^19:36
tortoisedoclocusf: should I have ? :)19:36
tortoisedoctbr : no more intel APU ?19:37
locusf930 probably not needed even19:37
tortoisedocha! msyncd does NOT seem to crash! :)19:37
tbrtortoisedoc: random search engine result: https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/261297-intel-leaks-details-new-desktop-core-i7-8809g-radeon-graphics19:37
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tortoisedoc(at least in gdb)19:37
locusfjust get mesa going19:38
tortoisedocaah right I heard something about that19:38
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tortoisedocmal : hmm [D] unknown:0 - connection-manager.cpp 106 setupSocketConnection p2p error: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound", "Failed to connect to socket /run/user/100000/signond/socket: No such file or directory") 119:40
tortoisedocstill soem errors19:40
tortoisedocbut at least no more bt errors :)19:41
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tortoisedocnow if i just could remember how to sync contacts...19:41
tortoisedocit seems theres supposed to be a bt sync ui in settings19:48
tortoisedocbut its not there19:48
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tortoisedocwell ill be damned19:51
tortoisedocthe ui does not allow me to import but from lumia / android / iphone19:51
tortoisedoc(the contacts wizards)19:51
tortoisedoci mean w0t19:53
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tortoisedoccould this be related to a profile issue19:54
r0kk3rzjust dump the database :P19:55
r0kk3rzyou dont need bt nonsense when you have ssh :)19:55
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : hell no I want to use my phone as a phone,  not as a pc :P19:55
tortoisedocbut I love to use sfos ui ;_;19:55
r0kk3rzthen you bought the wrong phone19:55
tortoisedocI mean wtf19:55
tortoisedocnow i know19:56
tortoisedocan ssh-only phone would be best :P19:56
tortoisedoclike command line only19:56
r0kk3rzno need to go to extremes19:56
tortoisedocwe are there already19:57
r0kk3rzive heard someone ask about a CLI only distro for the purism phone...19:57
r0kk3rzbut yeah, sailfish is great because you can get into the guts of it, the problem is you *have* to19:57
locusfcli only20:02
locusfjust linux from scratch it20:02
locusfgood luck with the onscreen keyboard20:02
locusfdouble tap to be greeted by a tty020:02
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r0kk3rzyeah, or ncurses :)20:06
tortoisedocosk? thats no cli :P20:07
tortoisedoci mean NO osk, terminal + hw kb :P20:07
tortoisedocn950 + debian :D20:07
tortoisedocstart a call? echo the SERIAL commands to tty :D20:08
tortoisedocsed + awk rulez!20:08
tortoisedocdear god20:08
tortoisedochmm I dont get this20:10
tortoisedocthe contacts app qml just opens up the bt pairing pages20:10
tortoisedocdoesnt seem to be doing anything special20:10
tortoisedocbut its not letting me select my jolla (which is already paired btw20:11
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tortoisedocthis is even more problematic than it seems20:19
tortoisedoc // TODO: remove mentions of Bluetooth - JB#3805520:19
tortoisedocin jolla-contacts import qml ;_;20:20
tortoisedoci mean wtf20:20
tortoisedocwhat's wrong with bluetooth pairing / sync :(20:20
tortoisedocsure there's the security issue,20:21
tortoisedocbut also a file can be copies20:21
tortoisedocnow I have to make a backup20:21
tortoisedoctransfer the contacts file over bluetooth20:21
tortoisedocand import them20:21
tortoisedocits a step back20:21
r0kk3rzyeah wow20:22
r0kk3rzclearly its a bit screwed20:22
tortoisedoci sense some sarcasm ?20:23
r0kk3rzimagining not being able to import your contacts from android over bt20:23
tortoisedocyea exactly20:23
tortoisedoci mean20:23
tortoisedocfor android you need google play20:23
r0kk3rzyou dont need it20:23
tortoisedocis there an option for bt from android?20:23
r0kk3rzthere used to be one, idk i havent really used android in years20:24
tortoisedocbut yea it seems the bt sync is not started20:27
tortoisedoclets hope it comes back)20:28
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tortoisedocmal : how do I find out if my jolla has the PSE role?20:37
tortoisedoc(BT role that is)20:38
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maltortoisedoc: PSE?20:46
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maltortoisedoc: not sure if such feature is very useful on phones20:53
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r0kk3rzmal: it seems to be designed for phones :P21:03
r0kk3rzbut yes in general bt contacts profiles are a bit fragmented...21:04
malr0kk3rz: ah, misread, I checked what PCE does which is the other direction21:06
malr0kk3rz: afaik it should have that but those implementations of that are a mess21:08
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maltortoisedoc: with what device on the other end are you trying that?21:09
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r0kk3rzjphone to sailfish x iirc21:14
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malr0kk3rz: probably sailfish doesn't have the client stuff of that, only the server since client is not really that useful in phones21:16
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r0kk3rzyeah its probably a pita to implement for something you might only use once21:17
malafaik people have been able to get the phone book to some cars from jolla devices21:18
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malr0kk3rz: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37346210/phone-book-access-pbap-client-for-linux-raspberry-pi ?21:20
malr0kk3rz: that links to a python thingy that has a pbap client example so maybe try that21:21
malthe answer that is21:21
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: ^^21:23
malheh, I already had forgotten who asked the original question :D21:23
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tortoisedocmal, r0kk3rz  thanks but im not buying that21:40
tortoisedocif there's no client side, it means there's no way to sync *to* the phone21:40
tortoisedocI rememeber syncing from n9 to toh21:40
tortoisedocso there must be a client profile somewhere21:41
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maltortoisedoc: what exactly do you want to do?21:42
tortoisedocmal : bt sync of contacts21:43
tortoisedocbetween xperia from toh21:43
tortoisedocit could be sfos *only* has the client part21:43
r0kk3rzmaybe bluez5 ended up with reduced functionality21:44
malfrom toh? what do you mean?21:44
tortoisedocjolla 121:44
tortoisedocmal  ^21:45
tortoisedocr0kk3rz : thats also possile21:45
malwhat does that have to do with bluetooth?21:45
r0kk3rztortoisedoc: see, its not just me :P21:45
tortoisedocmal : client role of the bt profile I mean21:45
tortoisedoc now if only i could get a list of supported roles available from bluez..21:46
malbut I still don't understand what toh has to do with that21:46
tortoisedocfrom the bt sync agent you can get the profiles21:46
tortoisedocmal : as in?21:46
r0kk3rzmal: tortoisedoc was meaning toh == jolla 1, because reasons21:46
malyou said toh and I don't understand how that fits to this discussion21:46
tortoisedocyeah realized it now :) sorry meant the phone not the accessiorie21:47
malwhy would anyone use that term21:47
* tortoisedoc waves21:47
r0kk3rzi have no idea, it started out as OTH21:47
Teguthe model with toh21:47
r0kk3rzwhich is just bizarre21:47
tortoisedocdont derail the discussion kthx :)21:48
malnot sure how to see the supported roles, supported protocols are easy to see21:50
r0kk3rzyou can probe it with cli discovery tools21:51
r0kk3rzlike hci-tool21:51
malprotocols you can see even in the UI21:51
r0kk3rzarent the protocols usually the same as roles?21:52
tortoisedocwell bummer21:53
tortoisedocJan 02 23:51:46 Sailfish kernel: BUG: scheduling while atomic: kworker/0:2/10523/0x0000000221:53
tortoisedoctheres some bug in the xperia kernel :D21:53
malr0kk3rz: afaik roles are more detailed, like PBAP which contains PCE and PSE21:53
tortoisedoc(not related to bt i believe)21:53
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r0kk3rzah ok21:53
tortoisedocyes it seems hcitool can switch a device from master to slave21:54
tortoisedocbut it doesnt work on sfos :D21:54
tortoisedocit gives -> Switch role request failed: Input/output error21:54
tortoisedoc(as root)21:54
tortoisedocit seems the hcitool configures the device to be master by default21:57
tortoisedocwhen setting up a connection21:57
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tortoisedocit'd be almost easy22:17
tortoisedocpython test client22:17
tortoisedocbut no python on device :[22:18
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tortoisedocthere's  a nice can of worms for you22:35
tortoisedocthis happens when I run hcitool info dev_addr22:35
tortoisedoc(the  bug)22:35
r0kk3rzyeah the bt support is a bit flaky22:37
tortoisedocaaa bit :) right22:38
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r0kk3rzremember that its currently unsupported on sailfish x22:39
tortoisedocjust banging my head against the wall here :)22:39
tortoisedocshould probably go to sleep instead22:40
tortoisedocand use scp22:40
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tortoisedocthis can be everywhere then22:40
tortoisedocin hybris22:40
tortoisedocin the kernel22:40
tortoisedocor in the android driver22:40
tortoisedocr0kk3rz the cause for the bug I mean22:42
r0kk3rzkernel id say22:42
r0kk3rzbt stack doesnt use hybris, or android drivers22:42
r0kk3rzwhich is partially the reason why it sucks so much22:42
tortoisedocwell at least its open source?22:43
tortoisedocbut its aosp no?22:44
tortoisedoci mean it comes from xperia22:44
r0kk3rzyeah but thats not really that helpful at all22:44
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r0kk3rzbecause bt works completely differently on android22:45
tortoisedocyes but i mean22:45
tortoisedocif its a kernel driver issue; how comes its non-android22:45
tortoisedocon xperia?22:45
tortoisedocis it supported?22:45
r0kk3rzbecause android doesnt use kernel bt drivers22:45
tortoisedocso the kernel bt driver on sfos is which one?22:46
tortoisedoc(xperia I man)22:46
r0kk3rzthey essentially have a userspace bt driver service thing22:46
r0kk3rzpresumably so they dont have to abide by the gpl22:46
tortoisedocclever google :)22:47
maltortoisedoc: some broadcom driver22:47
tortoisedocmal : opensource?22:47
mallook at the kernel sources22:47
tortoisedoc:[[ link?22:47
maltortoisedoc: start from this https://github.com/mer-hybris/android_kernel_sony_msm/commit/3c1bbedc12aa43525964db5801ac5a6967596b0522:48
r0kk3rzso what sailfish x uses, is whatever happened to be in the kernel it came with, but its completely unused by android so it never needed to actually work22:48
tortoisedocmal : aaah I see22:49
tortoisedocthe device's sleep cycle conflicts with the bt radio22:49
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tortoisedocmal : i guess this commit is not in the xperia build yet?22:51
tortoisedocor is it?22:51
r0kk3rzit is22:53
r0kk3rzotherwise bt wouldnt work at all22:53
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maltortoisedoc: it is, that's how the bluetooth was fixed22:53
tortoisedocmal : from the previous issue?22:54
tortoisedocmal : meaning there was an even bigger issue than mines?22:54
tortoisedocas  the fix there does not seem to affect my problem22:55
r0kk3rzit didnt work at all22:55
tortoisedocoh :)22:55
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tortoisedocI wonder22:56
tortoisedoccan I disable the power saving cycle22:56
tortoisedoccompletely  i mean and only temporarily for testing purpouses22:56
r0kk3rzkeep the screen on22:57
tortoisedocok lets see22:58
tortoisedocstill happening even with screen on22:59
tortoisedocbut also with screen on22:59
tortoisedoci still get Jan 03 00:59:55 Sailfish kernel: PM: suspend exit 2018-01-02 22:59:55.482124506 UTC23:00
tortoisedocJan 03 00:59:55 Sailfish kernel: PM: suspend entry 2018-01-02 22:59:55.988146571 UTC Jan 03 00:59:56 Sailfish kernel: PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.23:00
tortoisedocso power cycle is still active even with screen on?23:00
tortoisedoci think it's better to move this to sailfishos-porters :)23:01
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