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| kinkmaster | hello | 06:57 |
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| kinkmaster | I have two questions | 06:57 |
| kinkmaster | how easy is it to port sailfish to android devices? I read the guide and it seems really straight forward, but has anyone here tried it and got it working? | 06:58 |
| kinkmaster | also, is there any place where I can look at the alpha/beta versions of sailfish os 3? | 06:59 |
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| abranson | kinkmaster: porting is quite straightforward, but you need to know your way around mobile devices really. best place to talk about that is #sailfishos-porters, which is really active | 07:38 |
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| abranson | kinkmaster: there's no preview version of sailfishos3 yet. if you have a sailfish device, then you can opt into the Early Access programme, but that's generally gets you updates only a couple of weeks before everyone else. | 07:39 |
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| keithzg[m] | Hah I just realized that I literally have no indigogo "Contributions" other than mobile Linux hardware. Looking good for the Gemini to be the first to actually materialize . . . and then I can finally live the TOHKBD dream :D | 07:55 |
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| present | hi | 09:49 |
| present | Just tried "sb2 -t SailfishOS-2.1.4.13-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R make install" without success | 09:50 |
| present | but working great without the -m sdk-install :D | 09:52 |
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| r0kk3rz | there is also a way to do an interactive shell in the target | 09:59 |
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| abranson | just leave the command off the end | 10:29 |
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| abranson | i.e sb2 -t SailfishOS-2.1.4.13-armv7hl -m sdk-install -R | 10:29 |
| r0kk3rz | what does the -m sdk-install bit actually do | 10:32 |
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| coderus | "The -m sdk-install tells sb2 to use a mapping mode that permit the updating of the target" | 10:46 |
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| present | :/ | 11:09 |
| present | Chromium is not ready for Wayland yet as far as I understand. | 11:10 |
| present | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZeLEyKSuyE | 11:10 |
| present | https://github.com/intel/ozone-wayland | 11:10 |
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| Krikke | oh | 11:11 |
| Krikke | so that's why slack lagS? :D | 11:11 |
| present | QtWebEngine still can run on Wayland... | 11:12 |
| present | I need an SDK that has the X11 environment to at least being able to compile Chromium. | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | no? i wonder what oxide uses then | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | or quicksilver for that matter | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | present: this was the last attempt at chromium on sailfish afaik - https://github.com/tworaz/quicksilver | 11:28 |
| locusf | and what a brilliant thing that was | 11:29 |
| locusf | it was so smooth to use | 11:29 |
| r0kk3rz | locusf: what are you using for matrix these days? | 11:36 |
| locusf | riot web | 11:36 |
| locusf | in chrome | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | on sailfish? | 11:37 |
| locusf | yeah | 11:37 |
| locusf | 1080p screen helps :p | 11:37 |
| r0kk3rz | ah | 11:37 |
| r0kk3rz | im thinking of moving harbour-matrix to glacier components :) | 11:38 |
| locusf | wow | 11:39 |
| locusf | go for it :) | 11:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | its just stupid that theres a ubports matrix app thats practically identical to ours | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | but because nobody can agree on componentry... | 11:40 |
| locusf | is there something in openrepos? | 11:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | not yet, im doing a bunch of backendy stuff thats breaking things | 11:42 |
| r0kk3rz | theres a build on my merobs home | 11:42 |
| locusf | okay | 11:42 |
| r0kk3rz | but if this new library stuff works, then it should be pretty nice | 11:43 |
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| present | r0kk3rz: I think I'm gonna setup my own cross environment | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | present: sb2 not working for you? | 11:52 |
| present | yes but If I need to compile many stuff I can't keep doing it on a laptop | 11:53 |
| present | I'll ask my friend from OpenIndiana if he can do something for me :) | 11:54 |
| present | arm-linux-gnueabi armv7hl | 11:56 |
| r0kk3rz | it should be ok, you might need to careful about anything you're linking against though | 11:56 |
| present | https://together.jolla.com/question/134877/difference-between-armv7hl-armhf/ | 11:57 |
| r0kk3rz | in particular we use an old gcc version | 11:57 |
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| locusf | Wow this is so much nicer now | 11:57 |
| locusf | I mean harbour-matrix | 11:58 |
| r0kk3rz | locusf: theres a couple of major issues, the room syncing seems a bit borked for instance | 11:59 |
| r0kk3rz | but the library does state caching now, so i should be able to reduce the epic login time | 11:59 |
| locusf | Noticed, just scroll back to refresh | 12:00 |
| r0kk3rz | but it installed ok? its using static linked new gcc | 12:01 |
| present | GCC 4.8 | 12:01 |
| locusf | it did | 12:02 |
| * present was for the SDK | 12:02 | |
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| r0kk3rz | locusf: i assume you logged into disroot? | 12:23 |
| locusf | yeah | 12:24 |
| locusf | no problems there | 12:24 |
| r0kk3rz | oh good | 12:24 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: built succesfully dconf with meson and added some more comments to commits. | 12:33 |
| pvuorela | think re2c and ninja could be good already. | 12:34 |
| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: yeah i saw, we can remove those build deps from meson because im not sure they actually did anything | 12:34 |
| r0kk3rz | but if you look at the fedora packaging for it, they list a shedload of stuff that meson supports | 12:34 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: yea, noticed. wonder what's the point there. or if there is a point :) | 12:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah who knows, we can always change it later if a reason becomes apparent | 12:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: ok so now you don't need to BR both meson and ninja to use the meson macros | 12:57 |
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| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: good. | 12:58 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: then the macros, had some comments there too. | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | yes i'll tidy that up | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | i'm not 100% sure what needs to be done about those compiler flags though | 13:00 |
| pvuorela | me neither :) | 13:06 |
| r0kk3rz | ok, it was breaking on the ldflags one for me, so the smallest change is just to remove that export | 13:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: well that works on my test, macros patch is quite minimal now | 13:16 |
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| present | leszek: Do you know which commit from WebKit would make it as annulen stated "5.212 is too old for this" ? | 14:16 |
| leszek | I don't know | 14:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | pvuorela: well that cleaned up the gstreamer spec nicely - https://git.merproject.org/r0kk3rz/gstreamer/commit/caf6c06a03fa513059b72851b70827655926c380 | 15:16 |
| pvuorela | r0kk3rz: nice. abranson ^ | 15:17 |
| abranson | r0kk3rz: cool! should move to that when we update to 1.14 then | 15:18 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: yeah im just updating to their 1.14rc2 tag | 15:19 |
| abranson | is the gtk-doc stuff not built by default then with meson? | 15:19 |
| r0kk3rz | it seems that meson tries to be really clever, and if it cant find an option dep that it disables it | 15:20 |
| pvuorela | i think on couple meson projects i've checked it's been off by default. | 15:20 |
| pvuorela | which is nice. | 15:21 |
| r0kk3rz | at the start of the build it prints out a big list of everything it supports, and if it found the dependency | 15:21 |
| abranson | tracker will need moving too, but there's a lot more work to do to upgrade that next time | 15:22 |
| abranson | it's been broken up into multiple repos, and they've removed the album art stuff :( | 15:23 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson, pvuorela: so they have a flag to disable gtk-doc, but also a graceful fallback if they cant find it, so which to use? - https://github.com/GStreamer/gstreamer/blob/master/meson.build#L481-L491 | 15:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | deliberately disable it just in case it is there? | 15:30 |
| abranson | if it's not built by default, then I'd leave it as is. it's unlikely that sailfish will ever have the proper pieces handy. | 15:30 |
| abranson | packaging will fail if things suddenly crop up that weren't there before, so it's safe to leave it implicitly disabled imo | 15:30 |
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| unreasonable[m] | am I right that sailfish os (I'm running 2.1.3.7 on fairphone2) doesn't handle group texts too well? I found a few posts like https://together.jolla.com/question/75552/messaging-application-does-not-support-group-sms-or-group-mms/ but couldn't find anything in say bugzilla (I'm new to sailfish but technical so might be able to work on the issue) maybe an issue with ofono and bubbles up to the messaging UI? | 21:26 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah that part of the stack is fairly deep so its likely multiple things might need fixing before you get it working end-to-end | 21:32 |
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| unreasonable[m] | here's a nice chart :) a place to start looking into things: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Cellular_Telephony_Architecture | 21:44 |
| unreasonable[m] | thanks for good docs | 21:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah deeeep, good luck! | 21:47 |
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