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| jpetrell | dcaliste: hi | 07:03 |
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| rainemak | hi there | 07:03 |
| dcaliste | Hello chriadam_, jpetrell | 07:03 |
| dcaliste | Hello rainemak | 07:03 |
| chriadam_ | good morning! | 07:03 |
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| jpetrell | chriadam_ finished and merged big refactoring changes to secrets fw on weekend for 2.2.0 | 07:04 |
| jpetrell | we are busy building document signing feature on top of it | 07:04 |
| dcaliste | I've rebased yesterday, and I'm up-to-date on secrets. | 07:05 |
| jpetrell | cool | 07:05 |
| chriadam_ | that was quick! | 07:05 |
| dcaliste | I've pushed a PR yesterday to show the work. | 07:05 |
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| chriadam_ | I saw the email about the PR but haven't had a chance yet to look at it | 07:05 |
| dcaliste | https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-secrets/pull/70 | 07:06 |
| chriadam_ | email / github notification | 07:06 |
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| dcaliste | I guess you had a lot of work recently! | 07:06 |
| chriadam_ | yes, last week wasn't too much fun | 07:07 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste: quick note: in order for stored keys from the plugin to be handled properly, your plugin needs to also implement the EncryptedStoragePlugin interface, similarly to how the SqlCipher plugin does | 07:07 |
| jpetrell | pinged internally again about contribution agreement, it was discussed last week in management navigation meeting | 07:09 |
| dcaliste | Ok, I'll give a look. But I though that since GnuPG is storing itself, it was not necessary because I don't code a new storage. But maybe it's a wrong understanding, that implementing this API will give access from secret to the stored keys in fact, right ? | 07:09 |
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| dcaliste | jpetrell, ok cool, please keep it touch by email when it's ready. | 07:10 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste: my brain is still recovering so I might not be correct (e.g. maybe it will work for retrieval, but not deletion, of keys?) but I think that you do have to implement both Crypto and EncryptedStorage interfaces. | 07:10 |
| chriadam_ | jpetrell: what was discussed about it? what is still holding up? | 07:11 |
| jpetrell | chriadam_: they are reviewing the contract template, making small fixes | 07:11 |
| dcaliste | chriadam_, yes, deletion is not part of crypto, but storedKey() and generateKeyAndStore() are part of crypto already. | 07:11 |
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| jpetrell | I have been working on secrets and signing design, Venemo built working prototype of documents signing | 07:12 |
| chriadam_ | jpetrell: is it working now with the refactor? great! | 07:12 |
| Venemo | chriadam_: not yet | 07:13 |
| Venemo | chriadam_: but working on it | 07:13 |
| chriadam_ | ah ok | 07:13 |
| chriadam_ | cool | 07:13 |
| jpetrell | chriadam_: working on old framework version ;) | 07:13 |
| jpetrell | denexter created import keys api | 07:13 |
| chriadam_ | that one might need some minor tweaks | 07:14 |
| dcaliste | chriadam_, when you have time, you look at plugins/gnupgplugin/gpgmebase.cpp#172, it is where a GnuPG key is transformed into a Crypto::Key. | 07:14 |
| jpetrell | most APIs still need tweaks | 07:14 |
| chriadam_ | e.g. maybe QByteArray data + Type (public+private keypair, publicOnly, secretOnly) makes sense there. | 07:14 |
| chriadam_ | jpetrell: yes | 07:15 |
| dcaliste | Currently, I'm still using hardcoded collection name, but I think I will change it to the master key fingerprint. | 07:16 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste: what is GPGME_PK_ELG ? is that some key type which we shoudl add to the Algorithm enum in CryptoManager? | 07:16 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste: hardcoded collection name is fine anyway tbh | 07:16 |
| dcaliste | In GnuPG keys can have subkeys. | 07:16 |
| chriadam_ | ah, ok. that's something we haven't looked into how to support in the api yet | 07:17 |
| dcaliste | So like that keys and subkeys will be in the same collection. And the plugin name will highlight the fact that it's a GnuPG key. | 07:17 |
| chriadam_ | right, I see. so having the master key name be the collection name might make sense in that case :-) | 07:17 |
| dcaliste | I'm not completely sure of this design though. Still investigating. | 07:17 |
| chriadam_ | sure | 07:17 |
| dcaliste | For the ELG algorithm, I need to give a look, maybe it's just a different naming: https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gpgme/Public-Key-Algorithms.html#Public-Key-Algorithms | 07:19 |
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| dcaliste | It's a ElGamal algorithm for what it means... | 07:19 |
| chriadam_ | interesting thanks, might need to add that one | 07:21 |
| chriadam_ | to our enum list | 07:21 |
| dcaliste | The sign method implementation is at line 489. In GnuPG, we can use different digest functions, like in secrets, but it's discourage since the digest function is part of the PGP RFC. | 07:21 |
| dcaliste | I didn't find the corresponding logic to padding though. | 07:21 |
| dcaliste | I guess it's hidden and not part of public API in gpgme. | 07:22 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste: the plugin is perfectly welcome to ignore the user input, and just document that it only supports one digest function and padding mode, and ignores those parameters | 07:22 |
| chriadam_ | IMO client applications need to know which plugin their keys come from, and the behaviour that the plugin supports / provides. | 07:22 |
| dcaliste | Yes, indeed that is my primary thought also. Just to provide as much info as possible. By the way, how do you want the documentation of the pugin to be ? | 07:23 |
| chriadam_ | I haven't thought that far ahead ;-) | 07:23 |
| chriadam_ | in general, qdoc | 07:24 |
| dcaliste | Ok, anyway, it's not complete yet neither. | 07:24 |
| chriadam_ | but I haven't documented the existing plugins yet, nor "generic documentation for plugin implementors" page etc | 07:24 |
| chriadam_ | but if you look in the source tree for .qdoc files, you will see some examples of other documentation | 07:24 |
| dcaliste | I think, the main part is to document the choice of conventions to map GnuPG keys and secret ones. | 07:24 |
| chriadam_ | yes, I agree | 07:24 |
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| dcaliste | Oh, one last point about Key: GnuPG doesn't export the key content, so public and private data are empty. I think I will put them to "GnuPG" or anything else to avoid the .isEmpty() tests failing. | 07:26 |
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| chriadam_ | dcaliste: it's fine to leave them as empty | 07:26 |
| chriadam_ | e.g. the KeyComponents tells what data is available to be read | 07:26 |
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| chriadam_ | (if our unit tests fail, we should fix those to check only the data which is exposed in the KeyComponents, etc) | 07:27 |
| dcaliste | Ok, I see I will keep this in mind. | 07:27 |
| chriadam_ | in general we need to do lots of work to fix the unit tests and make them more data-driven and applicable to other plugins | 07:27 |
| dcaliste | Yes I know, currently I've copied the cryptorequest test for my purposes... | 07:27 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste: check the importKey test for a good example of how a test should probably be written. andrew did that one properly ;-) | 07:28 |
| dcaliste | Ok, I'll look at, thanks for the pointer. | 07:28 |
| chriadam_ | e.g. data driven with a lot of per-test-row inputs to determine what the test compares/checks, and with a proper cleanup routine to ensure that subsequent tests don't fail if that one fails, etc. | 07:29 |
| dcaliste | Ah, about cleanup, the generation of not-stored key like generateKey(), for GnuPG, key must be stored in a file. So the documentation says to setup an ephemeral home and delete it later. | 07:30 |
| dcaliste | I've done this in a QTemporaryDir during the generation, but I need to keep the temporary directory alive for the test life time when the key is used. | 07:31 |
| chriadam_ | dcaliste: definitely a possibility. other is to just return Failed from that method and say "we don't support ephemeral key generation, use GenerateStoredKeyRequest instead" etc | 07:32 |
| dcaliste | Then, there is no automatic way to delete the temporary dir... | 07:32 |
| dcaliste | Ah, I see, why not. | 07:32 |
| chriadam_ | up to you what semantics you want to implement, of course | 07:32 |
| dcaliste | Yes, one additional thing to document indeed ;) | 07:34 |
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| dcaliste | One last thing: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-secrets/issues/61 | 07:36 |
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| dcaliste | About how to notify that the plugin keys as changed. Indeed maybe it's in the encryptedStorage API... | 07:36 |
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| chriadam_ | currently, it doesn't exist :-( | 07:38 |
| chriadam_ | we do query the keys at startup time | 07:38 |
| chriadam_ | but that is all... | 07:38 |
| chriadam_ | I think we do need such API (along with perhaps some metadata hints for each key/secret) | 07:38 |
| chriadam_ | but I haven't thought it through carefully enough to propose an API yet | 07:39 |
| dcaliste | I'll have to quit in 5 to 10 minutes. Thank you chriadam_ for the answers. | 07:39 |
| chriadam_ | no problem, thank you for the discussion and effort | 07:39 |
| dcaliste | Ok, if you want to discuss it I'll be happy to participate. It's relevant for listModels later for UI I guess. | 07:39 |
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| chriadam_ | hrm, well interesting point whether we want to expose it all the way up to the UI | 07:40 |
| dcaliste | I've got some code already to monitor the GnuPG files storing the keyring and notify when something changed. | 07:40 |
| chriadam_ | but the more immediate problem is that it isn't even exposed to the metadata database yet :-/ | 07:40 |
| dcaliste | Good bye, see you next week. | 07:43 |
| chriadam_ | ok, I have nothing else - I will look into that when I get a chance (but probably next week I guess) | 07:43 |
| chriadam_ | anyone else have something more to discuss? | 07:44 |
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| chriadam_ | thanks! | 07:49 |
| chriadam_ | and see you next week too :-) | 07:49 |
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| atolstoy | About this one: https://together.jolla.com/question/180109/announcement-community-sony-xperia-x-compact-release | 08:06 |
| atolstoy | does it include Android support (alien dalvik)? | 08:06 |
| Bysmyyr | most probably not | 08:07 |
| r0kk3rz | no its a community build | 08:07 |
| r0kk3rz | no community builds come with proprietary stuff like alien-dalivk | 08:08 |
| atolstoy | but you can have Alien Dalvik if you follow HADk and build your own image, right? | 08:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | no | 08:13 |
| r0kk3rz | thats what a community build is | 08:13 |
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| atolstoy | then I don't get it. HADK has chapters about enabling Android support. Is it Dalvik? | 08:16 |
| r0kk3rz | what? no it doesnt | 08:17 |
| atolstoy | What is Android HAL is for then? It's chapter 5 from the PDF | 08:18 |
| r0kk3rz | drivers | 08:18 |
| r0kk3rz | so the device actually functions properly | 08:18 |
| atolstoy | okay | 08:18 |
| r0kk3rz | because these devices only come with android, we use the android drivers for sailfish | 08:19 |
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| atolstoy | I've got aliendalvik on Jolla C. What if I do 'rpm -ql aliendalvik | xargs tar -xcvf dalvik.tgz', then copy it on another Sailfish device and untar it there. | 08:21 |
| atolstoy | Will it get the Android apps support? | 08:22 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah that wont work | 08:22 |
| atolstoy | Tried it yesterday, but once in a while when I checked the phone it showed no runnng apps at all, like if the tar command crashed the terminal and other UI apps. I still got the dalvik.tgz file, although I'm not sure if it is not truncated | 08:24 |
| atolstoy | it's regular 2.1.4 | 08:25 |
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