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tadzik | hmm, I tried making a Python QML app, but my .py files don't seem to get shipped to the device even though they're listed as DISTFILES in my .pro file. Is there a bit I'm missing? | 14:13 |
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tadzik | something in the spec file, so that the rpm builder picks them up? | 14:14 |
Thibit | Hello! I'm interested in checking out the OS but lack the hardware to do so. Is there a VM available? | 14:39 |
r0kk3rz | sort of, theres an emulator VM in the application sdk, but its not really a Sailfish OS Demo VM as such | 14:40 |
Thibit | Dang. :/ | 14:40 |
Thibit | Guess a better question would be, is there a good cheap phone option to check it out with? :P | 14:40 |
r0kk3rz | there are images available for a variety of android devices | 14:40 |
r0kk3rz | and also raspberry pi if you put a touch screen on it | 14:41 |
Thibit | I don't own any Android device outside of a edge case (Samsung tablet that barely has alt-image support, let alone alt-OS due to the Marvell chip used) and I only own a RPi 1 B | 14:41 |
Thibit | So... Yeah | 14:42 |
Thibit | Trying to figure things out as Windows 10 Phone dies off before it follows BB10 too far. :( | 14:42 |
r0kk3rz | yeah its unfortunate about both of those systems | 14:43 |
Thibit | People keep egging me on to just run Android, but the UX and I just don't jive post-Gingerbread | 14:44 |
Thibit | Anyhoo... Guess I'll poke about the options. 1GB RAM+ recommended for reasonable experience? | 14:44 |
r0kk3rz | 1gb should be fine | 14:45 |
r0kk3rz | original jolla phone has 1gb ram and is still supported | 14:46 |
r0kk3rz | the main ram hungry thing is the android runtime anyway | 14:46 |
Thibit | Ok | 14:46 |
Thibit | So basically akin to BB10 then | 14:46 |
r0kk3rz | in many ways bbos and sailfishos are quite similar | 14:47 |
Thibit | The notification area is what caught my eye on that in regards to the UX. | 14:47 |
r0kk3rz | yeah i think the bb hub thing was a lot more advanced than what we have | 14:48 |
Thibit | Outside of QNX vs Linux, it's indeed looking to be similar with how they both run Android wrappers from what the basic rundown diagram explained | 14:48 |
Thibit | I can make due with even a stripped version of the hub; it's better than naught | 14:49 |
r0kk3rz | both are qt based, both with gesture navigation | 14:50 |
r0kk3rz | unfortunately our android runtime is proprietary so you only get that on officially supported devices | 14:50 |
Thibit | Hrm... Does it support official Google auth such as the Colbalt packages for BB10? | 14:51 |
r0kk3rz | by default it comes with no google stuff at all | 14:53 |
r0kk3rz | but you can install play services and such | 14:53 |
Thibit | Ok, so it's better off than BB10 in that regards :) | 14:54 |
r0kk3rz | the other big issue with it is that its a bit old and lots of apps are starting to require android 5.1 support | 14:56 |
Thibit | I only need some basic mapping utilities, so it's not critical for Android-latest to be a thing | 14:57 |
r0kk3rz | we have a bunch of native mapping things depending on your needs | 14:58 |
hulkhogan | hi | 15:01 |
hulkhogan | i accidentally deleted a note of OwnNotes | 15:01 |
hulkhogan | is there any way i can recover | 15:01 |
hulkhogan | can anyone help | 15:14 |
fledermaus | hulkhogan: I don't know anything aboyut ownnotes specifically, but check the filesystem and see if you can find where ownnotes stores its stuff. | 15:16 |
fledermaus | then see if it actually deletes things or just moves them out of the way, or something. | 15:16 |
Thibit | As a US resident, are there any issues with paid apps outside of Sailfish OS X itself? | 15:30 |
r0kk3rz | there arent any, so no | 15:31 |
Thibit | Sweet | 15:31 |
Thibit | Thank you for your time! It's looking like it's a good possibility that I might just jump on the Sony Xperia X and call it a day due to the relatively low cost of entry vs specs | 15:32 |
tadzik | welcome to our world :) | 15:33 |
Thibit | Thanks! Hoping that I can call this port home, as the downfall of BB10 has left me adrift for too long... (/puns) | 15:34 |
tadzik | :) I had a short romance with android after the n900, but it was quite disgusting | 15:36 |
Thibit | My thoughts exactly. I'd rather run Gnome than to use Android (no offense for Gnome users, but I'm a KDE or WM user when it comes to X-Org) | 15:38 |
hulkhogan | fledermaus if it turns out that they actually delete things, is there nothing i can do? | 16:09 |
hulkhogan | fledermaus: | 16:10 |
Thibit | @r0kk3rz, FWIW the SDK does come with a rather neutered VM instance as well as the build environment | 17:39 |
Thibit | Ah, I see why you phrased it as such now | 17:40 |
r0kk3rz | indeed | 17:40 |
Thibit | Wishing that I looked at this more closely before going from BB10 to W10... While it's initially reminding me a lot of how OpenSUSE handles when I last looked at it, time will tell in that regards | 18:39 |
r0kk3rz | we do use some open suse bits here and there | 18:42 |
Thibit | Got her up and running via pkcon and determination. I'm really liking this! | 19:47 |
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