Saturday, 2018-07-14

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tadzikhmm, I tried making a Python QML app, but my .py files don't seem to get shipped to the device even though they're listed as DISTFILES in my .pro file. Is there a bit I'm missing?14:13
tadziksomething in the spec file, so that the rpm builder picks them up?14:14
ThibitHello! I'm interested in checking out the OS but lack the hardware to do so. Is there a VM available?14:39
r0kk3rzsort of, theres an emulator VM in the application sdk, but its not really a Sailfish OS Demo VM as such14:40
ThibitDang. :/14:40
ThibitGuess a better question would be, is there a good cheap phone option to check it out with? :P14:40
r0kk3rzthere are images available for a variety of android devices14:40
r0kk3rzand also raspberry pi if you put a touch screen on it14:41
ThibitI don't own any Android device outside of a edge case (Samsung tablet that barely has alt-image support, let alone alt-OS due to the Marvell chip used) and I only own a RPi 1 B14:41
ThibitSo... Yeah14:42
ThibitTrying to figure things out as Windows 10 Phone dies off before it follows BB10 too far. :(14:42
r0kk3rzyeah its unfortunate about both of those systems14:43
ThibitPeople keep egging me on to just run Android, but the UX and I just don't jive post-Gingerbread14:44
ThibitAnyhoo... Guess I'll poke about the options. 1GB RAM+ recommended for reasonable experience?14:44
r0kk3rz1gb should be fine14:45
r0kk3rzoriginal jolla phone has 1gb ram and is still supported14:46
r0kk3rzthe main ram hungry thing is the android runtime anyway14:46
ThibitSo basically akin to BB10 then14:46
r0kk3rzin many ways bbos and sailfishos are quite similar14:47
ThibitThe notification area is what caught my eye on that in regards to the UX.14:47
r0kk3rzyeah i think the bb hub thing was a lot more advanced than what we have14:48
ThibitOutside of QNX vs Linux, it's indeed looking to be similar with how they both run Android wrappers from what the basic rundown diagram explained14:48
ThibitI can make due with even a stripped version of the hub; it's better than naught14:49
r0kk3rzboth are qt based, both with gesture navigation14:50
r0kk3rzunfortunately our android runtime is proprietary so you only get that on officially supported devices14:50
ThibitHrm... Does it support official Google auth such as the Colbalt packages for BB10?14:51
r0kk3rzby default it comes with no google stuff at all14:53
r0kk3rzbut you can install play services and such14:53
ThibitOk, so it's better off than BB10 in that regards :)14:54
r0kk3rzthe other big issue with it is that its a bit old and lots of apps are starting to require android 5.1 support14:56
ThibitI only need some basic mapping utilities, so it's not critical for Android-latest to be a thing14:57
r0kk3rzwe have a bunch of native mapping things depending on your needs14:58
hulkhogani accidentally deleted a note of OwnNotes15:01
hulkhoganis there any way i can recover15:01
hulkhogancan anyone help15:14
fledermaushulkhogan: I don't know anything aboyut ownnotes specifically, but check the filesystem and see if you can find where ownnotes stores its stuff.15:16
fledermausthen see if it actually deletes things or just moves them out of the way, or something.15:16
ThibitAs a US resident, are there any issues with paid apps outside of Sailfish OS X itself?15:30
r0kk3rzthere arent any, so no15:31
ThibitThank you for your time! It's looking like it's a good possibility that I might just jump on the Sony Xperia X and call it a day due to the relatively low cost of entry vs specs15:32
tadzikwelcome to our world :)15:33
ThibitThanks! Hoping that I can call this port home, as the downfall of BB10 has left me adrift for too long... (/puns)15:34
tadzik:) I had a short romance with android after the n900, but it was quite disgusting15:36
ThibitMy thoughts exactly. I'd rather run Gnome than to use Android (no offense for Gnome users, but I'm a KDE or WM user when it comes to X-Org)15:38
hulkhoganfledermaus if it turns out that they actually delete things, is there nothing i can do?16:09
Thibit@r0kk3rz, FWIW the SDK does come with a rather neutered VM instance as well as the build environment17:39
ThibitAh, I see why you phrased it as such now17:40
ThibitWishing that I looked at this more closely before going from BB10 to W10... While it's initially reminding me a lot of how OpenSUSE handles when I last looked at it, time will tell in that regards18:39
r0kk3rzwe do use some open suse bits here and there18:42
ThibitGot her up and running via pkcon and determination. I'm really liking this!19:47
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