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| tortoisedoc | howdyhow | 14:06 |
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| tortoisedoc | so as its been visible in the mailing list | 14:06 |
| tortoisedoc | about the buteo-syncml | 14:07 |
| tortoisedoc | i compiled the buteo-sync-plugins-qt5 | 14:07 |
| tortoisedoc | but when installing it on the xperia i get: | 14:07 |
| tortoisedoc | error: Failed dependencies:buteo-sync-plugins-qt5 is obsoleted by (installed) patterns-sailfish-mw-1.0.18-1.11.1.jolla.noarch | 14:07 |
| tortoisedoc | monich any idea why patters-* replaces buteo plugin? | 14:08 |
| mal | tortoisedoc: what are you trying to do? the syncml provided by that is not supported anymore | 14:14 |
| tortoisedoc | @mal : there's an attempt to resuscitate syncml plugins | 14:15 |
| tortoisedoc | mal : since there seems to be no syncml atm, the previous (now apparently obsoleted) plugin was the best starting point | 14:16 |
| ghosalmartin | mal: really weird, am still getting wayland compositor and the display service dying on me, BUTTT when I run it through strace, the camera app, it works perfectly and crashes when I try to multitask, like wtf | 14:16 |
| ghosalmartin | andd wrong channel :P | 14:18 |
| tortoisedoc | ghosalmartin : _b | 14:18 |
| ghosalmartin | am on train so connections all over the place atm :P | 14:19 |
| tortoisedoc | mal: if there's a SUPPORTED syncml plugin somewhere, it'd be great to know :) | 14:19 |
| monich | tortoisedoc: the comment for that patterns-sailfish change is "SyncML sync over Bluetooth is deprecated", it was done about 2 years ago | 14:22 |
| mal | tortoisedoc: well if only sfos basically support syncml is there really that much need for sync plugin, android and ios don't have such support afaik | 14:22 |
| tortoisedoc | monich : eeh quite misleading message | 14:23 |
| tortoisedoc | but thanks, got the point :) | 14:23 |
| tortoisedoc | mal : so there's no conflict in the package per se? | 14:24 |
| tortoisedoc | mal : also syncevolution afaik is used by some linux distros? | 14:25 |
| mal | tortoisedoc: no conflict afaik, just obsoleted because no real use for it | 14:26 |
| mal | and maintenance burden | 14:27 |
| monich | tortoisedoc: quote from related bug in the internal bugzilla - "There is no other OS that supports it currently than Sailfish OS really... so currently the thinking is to not include that support for future versions as there isn't good usecase for it." | 14:27 |
| tortoisedoc | monich : i guess the only alternative is google sync w/google account then? | 14:28 |
| tortoisedoc | it is quite interesting, considering the "private" nature of SFOS (though given the maintenance burden of the component this is understandable perhaps) | 14:29 |
| tortoisedoc | monich : one use case is contacts / sms / notes transfer between sfos devices for example | 14:29 |
| tortoisedoc | as jolla keeps on supporting newer phones, it starts to make sense :P | 14:29 |
| monich | tortoisedoc: syncing is not quite my area :/ can't tell much off the top of my head | 14:30 |
| tortoisedoc | monich : _b | 14:30 |
| mal | I remember using that when it was still available, it has all kinds of issues, worked randomly at least in community ports | 14:31 |
| tortoisedoc | mal : back in n9 days? :P | 14:31 |
| mal | back when I was doing 2011 xperia porting | 14:31 |
| mal | I always tested sync with jolla 1 and that | 14:31 |
| tortoisedoc | huh 2011 xperia O_o | 14:31 |
| tortoisedoc | was that the erikson platform? | 14:32 |
| tortoisedoc | (which then got nuked) | 14:32 |
| mal | no, 2011 xperias are qcom | 14:34 |
| tortoisedoc | ok | 14:35 |
| bionade24 | tortoisedoc: Can I use SyncML to sync contacts to my car? | 14:39 |
| tortoisedoc | bionade24 : i have no idea :| | 14:41 |
| tortoisedoc | I can only say that syncing from one jolla device to the next is already a PITA, so it would be more than welcomed imo | 14:42 |
| tortoisedoc | bionade24 : I wonder what android auto uses? | 14:42 |
| tortoisedoc | google sync? | 14:43 |
| bionade24 | tortoisedoc: Nothing, as it mirror's the whole smartphone somehow. But older cars with a own multimedia interface which have a phone functionality sync contacts over BT | 14:56 |
| tortoisedoc | bionade24 : yea so there might be a use case | 14:59 |
| tortoisedoc | even tho old cars are becoming increasingly unwanted (at least in EU) | 14:59 |
| mal | do cars really use syncml? I would assume something else | 15:00 |
| mal | also car syncs are a mess enyway | 15:00 |
| mal | *anyway | 15:00 |
| bionade24 | tortoisedoc: But they'll still run for 5-10 years | 15:00 |
| bionade24 | mal: That's what I want to know | 15:00 |
| tortoisedoc | mal : sfos is a mess enyways :P | 15:01 |
| * tortoisedoc ducks | 15:01 | |
| tortoisedoc | okay | 15:01 |
| mal | tortoisedoc: you really don't want to know about the amount of hack needed in the other side to support android and ios phones | 15:01 |
| tortoisedoc | seems like the server is now replying but the dbus interface is not correct | 15:02 |
| * bionade24 helps gives tortoisedoc cover | 15:02 | |
| tortoisedoc | mal : I dont think I want to ;_M | 15:02 |
| mal | I have seen such work first hand in another company and it was not nice | 15:02 |
| bionade24 | mal: tortoisedoc If you read about Swift, then Qt + silicia is brilliant code | 15:02 |
| mal | bluetooth is a mess in everything, nobody really follows standard exactly so all kinds of quirks are needed everywhere | 15:03 |
| tortoisedoc | bionade24: swift is like pineapple on pizza, you dont really want to eat it | 15:04 |
| tortoisedoc | mal : that's de facto standard for us :| | 15:04 |
| bionade24 | tortoisedoc: I like pineapple on pizza a lot, so this comparison doesn't fit for me | 15:05 |
| mal | pineapple and something like pepperoni or salami is perfect in pizza | 15:05 |
| tortoisedoc | bionade24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGhyyR031ZA | 15:06 |
| bionade24 | tortoisedoc: :( No you have to hide | 15:07 |
| * bionade24 shoots at tortoisedoc | 15:07 | |
| * tortoisedoc is invisible | 15:07 | |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 15:07 |
| mal | I really can't understand the hate some people have towards pineapple in pizza | 15:08 |
| mal | if they don't like it then they should not eat it and just be quiet | 15:09 |
| tortoisedoc | mal : its not hate, it's probably more like an allergy | 15:11 |
| mal | tortoisedoc: still no point in complaining about it all the time | 15:11 |
| tortoisedoc | so it is :| | 15:12 |
| tortoisedoc | speaking of more serous stuff, with the screen in timeout, I get alot of | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Freezing of tasks aborted after 0.003 secondsJul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Restarting tasks ... done.Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Abort: Pending Wakeup Sources: wlan_wd_wake Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: PM: suspend exit 2019-07-16 15:13:37.395938045 UTCJul 16 17:13:37 Sail | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | fish kernel: PM: suspend entry 2019-07-16 15:13:37.462187820 UTCJul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Freezing user space processes ... Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: active wakeup source: wlan_wd_wakeJul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Freezing of tasks ab | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | orted after 0.003 secondsJul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Restarting tasks ... done.Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: Abort: Pending Wakeup Sources: wlan_wd_wake Jul 16 17:13:37 Sailfish kernel: PM: suspend exit 2019-07-16 15:13:37.490421196 UTCJul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: PM: suspend entry 2019-07-16 15:13:38.151419125 UTCJul 16 17:13:38 Sailfi | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | sh kernel: PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.Jul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: Freezing user space processes ... Jul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: active wakeup source: wlan_wd_wakeJul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: Jul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: Freezing of tasks aborted after 0.003 secondsJul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: Restarting tasks ... done.Ju | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | l 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: Abort: Pending Wakeup Sources: wlan_wd_wake Jul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: PM: suspend exit 2019-07-16 15:13:38.192601493 UTCJul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: PM: suspend entry 2019-07-16 15:13:38.262044098 UTCJul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: PM: Syncing filesystems ... done.Jul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: Freezing | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | user space processes ... Jul 16 17:13:38 Sailfish kernel: active wakeup source: wlan_wd_wake | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | argh | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | sorry mibbit webchat forsake me :| | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | -> https://pastebin.com/9iBkrAc1 | 15:14 |
| vknecht | tortoisedoc, could be expected if you read logs live through wifi... happens when using usb too ? | 15:24 |
| attah | coderus: Any chance screenrecorder (or similar) could serve/"cast" the video over DLNA? | 18:50 |
| coderus | attah: if you give me api/lib to do so :) | 18:51 |
| attah | I guess the serving is the somewhat tricky part | 18:51 |
| attah | https://github.com/mkiol/Jupii already has a dbus api and can do the controlling part | 18:52 |
| attah | I see you are throwing QImages at the output thingy... so if i can get something with a similar api, the rest should be fin, correct? | 18:57 |
| attah | Or maybe that was QPixmaps, but close enough | 18:59 |
| attah | coderus: Hmmmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_JPEG#M-JPEG_over_HTTP Wonder if DLNA players will like that | 19:36 |
| coderus | attah: tell me :) | 20:18 |
| coderus | attah: pr or forks are always welcome. but. still. vnc is not enough? | 20:19 |
| coderus | it is there for... ages. | 20:19 |
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