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dcaliste | Hello chriadam_, once again sorry to be late this morning (evening) :/ | 08:23 |
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chriadam_ | hi dcaliste, no problem at all | 08:23 |
chriadam_ | I hope you had a good week? | 08:23 |
dcaliste | It was allright, with festivities for Vietnamese new year ! | 08:24 |
dcaliste | Thanks for merging (and spotting the if mistake) the out-off window deletion prevention. | 08:25 |
chriadam_ | nice one :-) | 08:25 |
chriadam_ | no problem, thanks for fixing that one swiftly | 08:26 |
chriadam_ | also, thanks for reporting the issue with the error signal being ignored in accounts. blam added support to listen for that one and display the error message in the Oops page | 08:26 |
chriadam_ | not sure precisely which accounts that's handled for, but I think it should cover most account types | 08:27 |
chriadam_ | regarding mkcal MR#17 and nqpc MR#49, I've asked pvuorela and flypig whether they have any concerns with that one, now that you've added that nqpc PR to ensure we set all-day events as clocktime | 08:28 |
chriadam_ | I would like to merge and tag those sometime this week, i.e. before I go away on vacation | 08:28 |
chriadam_ | but let's see | 08:28 |
chriadam_ | the kcalcore MR#13 will have to wait until I get back unfortunately (that's the exclusive dtend one, along with the associated plugin update MRs) | 08:29 |
dcaliste | Yeh, I'm waiting for pvuorela and flypig to comment on the solution for MR#17 and associated. | 08:32 |
dcaliste | I agree it's better to wait for time for kcalcore#13 and affiliated. | 08:33 |
chriadam_ | at some point in the near future, we should touch base regarding the Settings/Keys UI and how to make it work properly for GnuPG keys | 08:33 |
dcaliste | For the error reporting, it's mainly for CalDAV from what I've seen. Thanks to Bea for the correction. | 08:34 |
chriadam_ | I recently made a change to remove some visual clutter from that Keys page (i.e. remove the Import and Generate buttons for gnupg/smime plugins), and going forward we need to improve the whole UI there because currently it's ... a bit of a mess | 08:34 |
chriadam_ | but I wasn't sure precisely what was supported for gnupg/smime currently via that UI. for my testing previously, I'd imported keys manually using gpg2 command line | 08:35 |
chriadam_ | (and then selected appropriate key for signing etc from the Settings/Accounts UI when creating an email account) | 08:35 |
dcaliste | The support of GnuPG in UI is really minimal at the moemnt. | 08:40 |
dcaliste | Mainly to display the stored keys. | 08:40 |
dcaliste | Theoretically the import from a file should work also, but flypig told me some time ago that he faced some issues with it. | 08:41 |
chriadam_ | ah, that's good - so I didn't remove any functionality then. display is still supported after my patch. it was just import/generate which I removed (import was anyway limited to .pem files rather than .asc which I think gpg requires, and generate caused a failure for me when I tested - hence why I removed those options) | 08:41 |
dcaliste | I need to investigate, but was side tracked by various other developmentsā¦ | 08:41 |
chriadam_ | in the future, we will be re-vamping the UI for Keys somewhat. when I start on that, we can discuss further I think :-) | 08:42 |
dcaliste | Yes, the generate may not work, because it is missing a email. | 08:42 |
chriadam_ | indeed, we may need some way to allow per-plugin specification of the generate key dialog, to ensure user inputs all required data etc... | 08:42 |
chriadam_ | I've added a note about that, will give it some thought. | 08:45 |
chriadam_ | that was all I had to discuss today - was there anything else you wanted to discuss or which I should follow up on? | 08:45 |
dcaliste | If you can comment this MR : https://bitbucket.org/jolla/ui-jolla-settings-accounts/pull-requests/70 | 08:46 |
chriadam_ | let me check | 08:47 |
dcaliste | Thanks | 08:47 |
chriadam_ | will merge and tag that one tomorrow after I check on device, unless bea or pekka raise some issue | 08:49 |
chriadam_ | thank you very much | 08:50 |
chriadam_ | just one comment there regarding adding a TJC# to commit message for CI | 08:51 |
dcaliste | Ah thanks, ok to add the TJC but the TJC question was a bit different to the issue addressed by this MR. | 08:52 |
chriadam_ | oh, I didn't check the tjc itself, was just reading the PR description | 08:52 |
dcaliste | The issue was raised by a user in the comment and we continue then by email together to find what was wrong. | 08:52 |
chriadam_ | which mentioned that one | 08:52 |
chriadam_ | well, if it's related to that TJC then I don't see a problem with marking it as "Contributes to" personally | 08:53 |
chriadam_ | (and without any tag, CI will prevent integration unfortunately...) | 08:53 |
dcaliste | Ok, no problem, I'll add the TJC id. | 08:53 |
chriadam_ | thanks! | 08:53 |
chriadam_ | was there anything else to discuss? | 08:54 |
chriadam_ | I guess one thing: I'm going away on vacation next months | 08:54 |
dcaliste | No, that's fine. Thank you. I'm waiting for pvuorela to comment on https://bitbucket.org/jolla/ui-jolla-settings-accounts/pull-requests/68 | 08:54 |
chriadam_ | so I guess we will have next meeting on Tuesday 3rd of March, as I'm away all Feb | 08:55 |
chriadam_ | of course pvuorela and flypig are always available on IRC or email if you need to contact them | 08:55 |
Krikke | so is it possible to hack XA2 to get output via USB-C? like samsung dex | 08:55 |
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dcaliste | Sure, I wish you to enjoy your holydays. and we can meet together again on March. | 08:55 |
chriadam_ | indeed :-) thanks again for your time and contributions, very much appreciated | 08:56 |
chriadam_ | will speak to you again in March :-) | 08:56 |
chriadam_ | oh - just got word from Jaymzz that the blog post will be going out shortly. I think he'll get in touch with you to make sure the wording etc is ok. | 08:57 |
chriadam_ | took time but glad it's going to happen :-) | 08:57 |
dcaliste | Ah, nice news ;) | 08:57 |
dcaliste | Ok, so enjoy your holydays chriadam_ and see you after. | 09:00 |
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vilpan | pvuorela: hi, I've been told you and sledges are the people to talk to wrt keyboard layouts, but sledges seems to be gone from IRC. | 10:31 |
vilpan | I've been told by sledges a Lithuanian keyboard layout is in the works back in August of last year to be released in the next release or the one after that. A couple release have been made in the mean time, so what's the status? Shall I hold my breath for 3.3? :) | 10:31 |
pvuorela | vilpan: yea, there's a PR for lithuanian keyboards. haven't been discussed for a little time now, was having impression it needed some changes, but now not entirely sure. need to check with sledges. | 10:53 |
vilpan | pvuorela: is the PR/discussion public? I'd take a look in case additional input could be useful. | 11:27 |
pvuorela | vilpan: unfortunately no. | 11:31 |
vilpan | pvuorela: ok, is there anything me/other users could do to help? | 11:36 |
vilpan | I'm aware it's easy to configure a new layout (https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2019-May/008603.html), but it gets tedious to re-apply after every upgrade. Not to mention everyone has to do the dance over and over, and some people probably don't even bother meaning they can't use their native language on Sailfish. | 11:36 |
pvuorela | vilpan: sorry, maybe not much with this one. translation could be another thing, though. | 11:38 |
vilpan | I've always found localized UIs confusing. Probably too used to English terminology. However, being able to write properly in the native language is important. | 11:43 |
Krikke | is there any way to enable external monitor through usb-c? | 15:25 |
Krikke | xrandr doesn't seem to work | 15:25 |
Krikke | the monitor works ootb with usb keyboard | 15:25 |
Krikke | preferably some command line tool? | 15:25 |
Krikke | it's hard to find information about this | 15:25 |
mkolman | Krikke: I though that needs USB-3, so it works also with USB-C USB 2.0 devices ? | 15:42 |
Nico[m] | xrandr is only for X, isn't it? | 15:45 |
Krikke | Nico[m]: yeah so what do we use in Sailfish? | 16:18 |
Krikke | mkolman: I have no idea it just work | 16:19 |
Krikke | the monitor has a usb hub | 16:19 |
Krikke | and charging usb-c | 16:19 |
mkolman | interesting! | 16:21 |
Nico[m] | Krikke: Sailfish is based on Wayland, I think the compositor needs to support that in that case. I'm not sure if lipstick does | 16:22 |
Krikke | so add support? | 16:24 |
Krikke | there is the specs, why are you not coding? | 16:24 |
Nico[m] | Eh, I'm coding something else, I'm not a sailfish dev, just an application developer | 16:26 |
Nico[m] | And even then, I wouldn't start implementing such a thing, if someone formulates it like that :D | 16:26 |
BenKerry | Hey | 18:46 |
BenKerry | Is someone online ? | 18:46 |
Nico[m] | Should I say no? | 18:46 |
BenKerry | No | 18:47 |
BenKerry | Can you tell me wich Version of YouTube APK is working on my Xperia XA 2 ? | 18:48 |
Nico[m] | No, I never used an Android app for youtube | 18:48 |
adantes | why would someone do that? | 18:51 |
adantes | whats the point of using sfos in that case? please someone explain that if what google apps working great, try use google phone | 18:52 |
Nico[m] | Dunno, YTPlayer is all I ever needed or I just use my browser | 18:52 |
adantes | yep | 18:53 |
tadzik | what browser are you using? | 18:59 |
Nico[m] | The Sailfish Browser. The others don't that well for me somehow | 19:00 |
johansmitsnl | I use Fennec from F-Droid | 19:01 |
johansmitsnl | Bu only because my Home Assistant website does not open in the default browser. | 19:01 |
x2s | the sf browser doesn't work very well with duckduckgo :/ | 19:02 |
johansmitsnl | x2s: and also because of this to | 19:02 |
mal | what is the problem with duckduckgo? | 19:02 |
johansmitsnl | you can't set it to be the default search engine | 19:03 |
mal | there is the search engine app in openrepos | 19:04 |
x2s | when I go to duckduckgo.com I can't focus on the search field | 19:04 |
x2s | I have to scroll down and up and do some voodoo to get the focus into the search field | 19:04 |
mal | x2s: so it seems, need to check that | 19:04 |
johansmitsnl | For me not able to use HA + duckduck was the reason to switch for Fennec (Firefox). | 19:05 |
x2s | Also JS reendering is pretty slow. I guess the engine could use some optimization (or noscript and an adblocker...) | 19:05 |
Nico[m] | You could use duckduckgo.com/lite | 19:06 |
x2s | Never tried that. | 19:09 |
x2s | duckduckgo is not heavily relying on JavaScript, just the focus problem is a bit annoying | 19:10 |
mal | focus seems to work randomly | 19:17 |
mal | usually after scrolling a bit | 19:18 |
x2s | exactly | 19:19 |
johansmitsnl | Is there news on the render engine update for the default browser? | 19:19 |
adantes | johansmitsnl: never got a problem with it | 19:22 |
adantes | johansmitsnl: yes you can. just install storeman | 19:22 |
adantes | youve a lot of utils that allow you o set ddg as default | 19:23 |
johansmitsnl | Can you open this site: https://demo.home-assistant.io/ | 19:23 |
adantes | yes I can | 19:25 |
adantes | gemini pda | 19:25 |
adantes | sailfish x | 19:25 |
Nico[m] | Yes, I can open it | 19:25 |
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adantes | its not great to use, but works | 19:26 |
Nico[m] | Xperia X Compact with Sailfish X here | 19:27 |
johansmitsnl | hmm sorry, the issue is with the login page and this demo environment does not have a login page on it | 19:27 |
johansmitsnl | The issue is that you cannot enter your credentials, it only shows the login button | 19:28 |
adantes | well, have you consider it may be the programming of the website that may have some kind of flaw? | 19:28 |
johansmitsnl | yes I did consider it | 19:29 |
Nico[m] | Could also be that the website requires a newer feature | 19:29 |
johansmitsnl | Probable that is the case, did not investigate it because a colleague of mine told it was due to the old render engine and he already spend time on it. | 19:31 |
johansmitsnl | Is there some documentation on how to debug or get the console of the default browser? | 19:31 |
johansmitsnl | Might be interesting in what the error is | 19:32 |
Nico[m] | You can start the browser from the command line and it will output errors to the console | 19:32 |
johansmitsnl | what is the command of the browser? | 19:33 |
Nico[m] | sailfish-browser? Don't really remember | 19:33 |
johansmitsnl | yes that is it | 19:33 |
attah | is there some way to hook a qml function to when the user navigates away from a page? (and still have stuff on the page readable for said function) | 19:34 |
johansmitsnl | Nothing special: JavaScript warning: https://ha.domain.com/static/polyfills/webcomponents-bundle.js, line 134: mutating the [[Prototype]] of an object will cause your code to run very slowly; instead create the object with the correct initial [[Prototype]] value using Object.create | 19:34 |
attah | i seem to recall there would be, but can't find it | 19:34 |
Nico[m] | St | 19:35 |
Nico[m] | The state change? | 19:35 |
attah | hmm? | 19:35 |
Nico[m] | You should be able to add an onStatusChange listener to the page and check if the status is PageStatus.Deactivating | 19:38 |
attah | aha, thanks | 19:39 |
attah | That worked great :) | 19:43 |
pingutux[m] | does anybody know the latest SFOS Version for the Nexus 5 and when was the last update? | 20:39 |
adantes | pingutux[m]: nope | 20:46 |
pingutux[m] | is it still suported by e.g. sailfishmods? | 20:50 |
pingutux[m] | how about oneplus one? | 20:53 |
Nico[m] | I think the #sailfishos-porters guys would be the better people to ask | 20:54 |
pingutux[m] | thanks | 20:54 |
Nico[m] | Also most of the status is listed here, I think: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris | 20:55 |
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pingutux[m] | sorry I still do not know IRC and Matrix to much - how do I get to #sailfishos-porters? I am using riot...something like /join # sailfish...I forgott?!? | 21:03 |
Nico[m] | join #freenode_#sailfishos-porters:matrix.org | 21:04 |
pingutux[m] | that easy? worked! Iam to old for this! But thanks. | 21:06 |
Nico[m] | No worries | 21:07 |
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