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| Mister_Magister | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/release-notes-kvarken-4-1-0/5942#3rd-party-api-and-apps | 11:23 |
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| Mister_Magister | its theeeeereeee | 11:23 |
| Mister_Magister | my patch | 11:23 |
| Mister_Magister | so happy | 11:23 |
| Mister_Magister | i want to see it in action | 11:33 |
| Mister_Magister | won't get 4.1 any time soon | 12:00 |
| Nico[m] | Weeee | 14:08 |
| Nico[m] | "Tens of packages were upgraded" lol | 14:16 |
| Nico[m] | So the gecko 68 update didn't happen? | 14:39 |
| attah | Nico[m]: 68? 78 seems to be in the pipe for next update | 14:49 |
| Nico[m] | I thought I saw 68 as a git branch once, so I thought it would be in this release | 14:54 |
| Nico[m] | But I don't mind getting 78 next release instead :D | 14:54 |
| attah | Someone spotted 78 pretty early on... so maybe it was that | 14:54 |
| attah | My thoughts exactly | 14:55 |
| attah | Seems Sony is not providing updates to unlocked phones :( | 14:57 |
| Nico[m] | Yeah, you don't get updates, if you unlock your phone, you need to lock it, then update, then unlock it again | 14:58 |
| Nico[m] | Or manually check for updates, it has been a while since I played around with it | 14:59 |
| attah | hmm... i manually checked, nothing | 15:00 |
| attah | right... locking is a thing | 15:01 |
| attah | but can i do it without sketchy tools and windows? | 15:03 |
| Nico[m] | Couldn't you just do that in the settings? | 15:03 |
| attah | not that i can find... but my Android experience is quite limited | 15:04 |
| Nico[m] | Either you could do it in the developer menu in the settings or via fastboot or so | 15:05 |
| attah | any pointers would be greatly appreciated... google is full of crap | 15:05 |
| Nico[m] | You just do the inverse of how you unlocked it | 15:06 |
| Nico[m] | Alternatively, I think Sony has an emma tool, that only runs on windows and can be used for manual flashing of newer android versions | 15:06 |
| attah | i had forgotten how many myths, hacks and woodoo pollute the Android enthusiast space | 15:17 |
| Nico[m] | :D | 15:17 |
| Nico[m] | It is almost as bad as the iOS ecosystem :3 | 15:18 |
| Nico[m] | Actually, maybe it is actually worse | 15:18 |
| attah | Since they can do more, with less... i'd bet yes | 15:18 |
| Nico[m] | Well, if you develop for iOS, a lot of times you need to call support to figure stuff out, while in your google account settings is just a button to do it on android. Their developer UX is a nightmare :D | 15:20 |
| attah | I don't even want to think about it | 15:20 |
| Nico[m] | I had a lot of fun last week... | 15:21 |
| attah | hmm? | 15:21 |
| Nico[m] | You need a whole lot of special identifiers, so that you can share files to your application for example. One of those identifiers was stuck on an expired apple account, because we didn't see, where you can remove it, before it expired, since you need to click a blue dropdown, that doesn't look clickable. | 15:22 |
| Nico[m] | So had to call support, they enabled the account of my boss, then I had to explain over the phone how to delete the id, so that I could add it to the unexpired account | 15:22 |
| attah | well fudge me... the update text on the notification reacts like a button, but does nothing... only clicking the blank part actually opens the menu | 15:23 |
| Nico[m] | On Android? :D | 15:23 |
| attah | yeah | 15:23 |
| Nico[m] | Android has a lot of issues like that :D | 15:23 |
| Nico[m] | I couldn't figure out the notification settings, because I thought the label wasn't clickable, when it was | 15:24 |
| Nico[m] | took me 10 minutes to figure out | 15:24 |
| attah | if Sailfish stops existing, i'm getting a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John%27s_Phone | 15:26 |
| Nico[m] | I'd probably get an eReader with call support or so :D | 15:27 |
| Nico[m] | I'm not patient enough to deal with Android or iOS | 15:27 |
| attah | Next version of this perhaps https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor | 15:27 |
| Nico[m] | Mhm, looks good | 15:28 |
| attah | Nico[m]: flaunting my ignorance here, but are you not on the forum? | 15:34 |
| Nico[m] | I am | 15:34 |
| Nico[m] | Probably a different username | 15:34 |
| attah | probably, anything you want to share? | 15:34 |
| Nico[m] | Seems like it is still KuroNeko | 15:34 |
| attah | was going to credit you for the lock thing | 15:34 |
| attah | so i'm just bad at looking... got it :) | 15:35 |
| Nico[m] | No, I have no idea, how you would connect those names :D | 15:35 |
| vilpan | attah: why not https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ ? :) | 16:52 |
| attah | The phone looks nice... but i don't think the OS is there yet | 16:53 |
| vilpan | I'm not sure it's ready to be a daily driver yet, but I'm pretty sure Purism will get there given their history | 16:54 |
| eagle98 | i paid 2 yearas ago | 16:55 |
| eagle98 | and still didn't get my phone | 16:55 |
| x2s | when should it have been delivered? | 17:00 |
| vilpan | I didn't follow the progress closely, but IMO much of the frustration in cases like that (Jolla, Purism, etc.) comes from the wrong expectations. For example, backing a crowdfunding campaign is not the same as buying. Delays are to be expected. | 17:01 |
| x2s | I've worked in a hardware manufacturing company for a few years. Doing prototypes and small amounts is easy. Scaling up is hard. | 17:02 |
| x2s | Also embedded linux. I'd like to burn it all down. | 17:03 |
| x2s | (not the Linux part, but the vendors making the bsp) | 17:03 |
| vilpan | I'd say burning down is the easy part, coming up with something better is the hard part. :) | 17:04 |
| x2s | Well, I have something better: Releasing the drivers and modifications in a way that it can go straight into mainline. That would be nice. | 17:05 |
| eagle98 | vilpan pinephone | 17:05 |
| eagle98 | isn't facing any of purism problems and cheaper with 500USD | 17:05 |
| eagle98 | and for Purism no deliveries before next year they say october but i know it will be 2022 | 17:05 |
| eagle98 | so it will be my 3 years annivasary to lose my money | 17:06 |
| eagle98 | get a pinephone if you want this kind of phone | 17:06 |
| x2s | .oO( 2021 and 2022 should be erased from history anyways. From 2019 straight to 2022 ) | 17:06 |
| vilpan | I've looked at pinephone in the past, I vaguely recall Librem 5 seemed superior to me in some way back then. I'll take another look. | 17:08 |
| vilpan | Anyway, when you back a crowd funding campaign losing your money is always an option. :) | 17:08 |
| attah | That OTA session was painful... finally booting SFOS on Xperia 10 II | 17:10 |
| eagle64 | x2s if pinephone didn't do good even during this times i would have a greed with you | 17:12 |
| eagle64 | don't get me wrong i wish purism to succeed i'm just angry with their ways | 17:13 |
| attah | Now i see why there are no installs of my sharing plugin in aarch64 today | 17:33 |
| attah | warehouse isn't available in aarch64 it seems | 17:33 |
| Nico[m] | Oh :D | 17:34 |
| Nico[m] | I need to buy an X10 II now, I guess | 17:34 |
| attah | wait, derp... Storeman is the thing | 17:34 |
| Nico[m] | For development... not because I want something new to play with ;p | 17:34 |
| attah | and obviously it is available | 17:34 |
| attah | my bad | 17:35 |
| attah | so the aarch64 app situation is "not great"... SeaPrint is back on the first page again, albeit last | 17:46 |
| abranson | attah: considering the first official 64bit sailfish os was launched as a preview today, it's a bit of a shock how great it is already ;) | 17:48 |
| attah | right.. from that point of view it is pretty awesome indeed | 17:49 |
| attah | i was "being a user" | 17:49 |
| Nico[m] | Why is blue always more expensive? | 17:50 |
| attah | now let's see if my apps actually work | 17:50 |
| Nico[m] | attah: Are you happy with the 10 II hardware so far? | 17:51 |
| attah | Yeah, it's excellent | 17:51 |
| attah | no revolution perhaps, but everything is just better | 17:52 |
| Nico[m] | Hm, I'll buy one then and blame you ;p | 17:52 |
| attah | go for it | 17:52 |
| eagle18 | abranson can i ask for like for the official release | 17:53 |
| eagle18 | link* | 17:53 |
| attah | Release notes and such are on the forum, downloadable images are on https://shop.jolla.com/ | 17:54 |
| attah | (and it is still Early Acces, and Free flashable image respectively) | 17:55 |
| attah | Nice, all my apps work | 18:00 |
| attah | well, S''Play video grabbing is borked again, but close enough | 18:01 |
| abranson | lots of the missing apps have source still up on github etc. we need some app adoption going on. | 18:03 |
| attah | And here i was looking forward to getting my life back :) | 18:03 |
| abranson | the really funny thing is a lot of devs just built their apps for aarch64 just because there was a target in the sdk. nowhere to run it. just because :DD | 18:05 |
| attah | yup | 18:05 |
| attah | i even made a point of being first | 18:06 |
| attah | (to publish in Store) | 18:06 |
| attah | BTW Cargo (Google Docs) needs adopting, and it's even cross platform... wonder if poetaster is hiding here under some other name | 18:09 |
| attah | *Google Drive | 18:09 |
| attah | So what beast do i poke for fixing: Installation of boost-atomic-1.66.0+git2-1.2.4.jolla.aarch64 failed | 18:15 |
| attah | in the docker build engine | 18:15 |
| attah | Ah, and the actual error is: Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: db4 error(-30971) from dbenv->open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version mismatch | 18:16 |
| attah | aaaw, even reinstalling the entire SDK didn't help | 18:29 |
| attah | oh well, ill build with the old toolchain | 18:41 |
| elros1 | attah: try sb2 -t target -m sdk-install -R rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db.00*. I have to use it on platform sdk after upgrade | 19:06 |
| attah | weirdly the old targets still work | 19:07 |
| attah | from where btw? trying from sfdk engine exec /bin/bash | 19:08 |
| attah | and getting: Invalid target specified | 19:08 |
| elros1 | yeah I don't remember exact target name so replace 'target' with your target name | 19:09 |
| attah | oh, i'm a bit tired :) | 19:11 |
| attah | that seems to have done the trick | 19:11 |
| Nico[m] | Let's see what arrives first, 4.1 stable or my phone .-. | 19:15 |
| attah | Mine took several weeks to arrive... thankfully i ordered in November or something | 19:16 |
| Nico[m] | Well, it says 3 days :D | 19:16 |
| attah | But that's the weekend? | 19:17 |
| Nico[m] | Saturday | 19:18 |
| Nico[m] | But yeah, probably on Monday :D | 19:18 |
| Nico[m] | Ah, there is a holiday, probably the 17th :D | 19:18 |
| attah | My manager was quite amused how many had missed that this week was only 3 days | 19:19 |
| Nico[m] | Mhm, I only knew, because my professor told me last week :D | 19:20 |
| attah | Anoyne else on 4.1 on the 10 II? Does sailfish office open odt/docx for you? | 19:42 |
| attah | I did the mistake of not testing before messing with calligra, but after reinstalling, it still doesn't | 19:43 |
| Malinux | When I run a backup I come to the calendar and it takes hours to finish it. I am on 4.0.1.48, though I've got this for multiple versions now. | 23:47 |
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