Friday, 2021-12-03

riniguspoetaster: will reply here over forking/branching. let's put new APIs and changes in the context - we are asking for improvements, better security, new versions of the libs (qt comes to mind). now when we get some APIs that are expected to improve security, we scramble to support all of it. personally, if there is a change that makes my apps better but is incompatible with the old SFOS versions, I will do it and break support for older SFOS06:24
rinigusthis is to avoid investing development time into older SFOS versions support and focus on what is the best for current and future.06:25
rinigusfor those stuck on older versions, it is up to them either to work on the port and bump to the latest or step up and work on apps for their SFOS version.06:26
poetasterrinigus: I agree that one can only support older versions/hardware for 'so' long. The newer security stuff, is actually vital if we want to leave a mark.10:57
poetasterrinigus, piggz: and thanks again for pushing the luks encryption process.10:57
poetasterrinigus: at the moment I have a number of projects where I'm moving to a harbour and chum branch model. Which requires some practice.11:07
Mister_Magisterrinigus: i did exactly same even though i have 3.4 on one of my phones still14:26
poetasterM_M: I've got two apps already which weren't even possible < 4 ... but my daily driver is still 3.414:41
poetasternobody cares :)14:41
Mister_Magisterpoetaster: why don't you use my nickname, i don't get pinged15:15
Mister_Magisterpoetaster: i would stay on 3.4 myself too because 4.x ui is horrible, i need to patch shit out of it15:16
poetasteroh, sorry, being a lazy bastard.15:20
poetasterMister_Magister: yeah, I'm not so crazy about the UI updates, but the general direction is ok.15:21
Mister_Magisterpoetaster: you can just type M and hit tab to fill15:21
Mister_Magisternoone types in nics by hand xd15:21
poetasterMister_Magister, shit it works.15:21
poetasterMister_Magister, the matrix client I'm using doesn't support tab expansion, so I've become used to just typing. irc rocks.15:22
Mister_Magisterirc is so old do you think they haven't figured that one yet? :D15:23
Mister_Magisterthey figured everything they could15:23
poetasterMister_Magister, yeah, the tragedy of 'progress'. I'm only so vexed by trying to keep up with users.15:26
poetasterMister_Magister, Ideally I'd have one client, but weechat's martrix integration (via python) sucks.15:27
Mister_Magisteri'm using konversation15:27
Mister_Magisterbut i don't use matrix15:28
poetasterMister_Magister, qt client, from kde? and what was the point above you mentioned that 'I shouldn't ignore'. I lost track.15:29
Mister_Magisteridk what you mean with the ignore15:30
poetasterMister_Magister, you wrote poetaster: don't ignore the issue i brought up and carried on :D15:31
Mister_Magisteroh, you mentioned the PR being small, but there was entire issue i helped with to get neofetch work on sfos15:31
poetasterMister_Magister, I didn't want to hightligh small, but elegant. kiss.15:32
poetasterMister_Magister, ah, I probably just didn't understand the PR :)15:32
poetasterMister_Magister, I was doing bug hunting in 3 unrelated projects, so very probably just crossed wires.15:33
poetasterMister_Magister, what ports are you working on?15:34
Mister_Magisterpoetaster: verdanditeam.com15:34
poetasterMister_Magister, cool. motorola. my first cell phone (1995).15:35
poetasteror was it a nortel. hmmm.15:35
Mister_Magistermost of motorola ports on the wiki is me15:35
Mister_Magisterpoetaster: but i also do apps15:37
Mister_Magisterill be honest with you i do too much15:38
poetasterMister_Magister, I've seen. I've got my hands a bit full, too. My QA sucks.15:38
poetasterMister_Magister, I'm doing some screwing around with WebViews to get some ideas for an SDL audio synth I'm building and built:
Mister_Magisterin my telegram client i literally have agile development xd15:40
poetasterMister_Magister, think I should release that thing?15:40
Mister_Magisterbut why webview15:40
poetasterMister_Magister, I was just looking a Scaler for metaphors. What kind of minimal features / UI I wanted to build. My app is in C++ and uses SDL215:41
Mister_Magisterbut why webview15:42
poetasterMister_Magister, scaler was on HN. I was reading. I took a look and I liked that it combined math functions, graphing ... this was different from my goal, do it got me thinking.15:43
Mister_Magisteridk what you talking about xd15:44
poetasterMister_Magister, you asked why, an it's a long story. Short story, it's secondary. WebViews are way to slow for what I want.15:45
Mister_Magisteryeah thats exactly why i asked why webview, its slow as hell xd15:45
poetasterMister_Magister, is the first steps.15:46
poetastertoo many projects.15:48
poetasterhardware: I sort of miss soldering at the moment.15:50
poetasterMister_Magister, did you see:
Mister_Magisterpoetaster: i did not, thanks16:02
poetasterMister_Magister, why isn't Yotta in chum yet?16:12
Mister_Magisterpoetaster: why should it be16:12
Mister_Magisteri don't care about chum16:12
Mister_Magisterand official short name is yotti16:12
poetasterMister_Magister, ok, yotti it is. I'm a chum fan. Just working on pushing from chum to openrepos.16:13
riniguspiggz_ and lbt : I think we would need to work a bit on chum-store kind of app to get better chum traction.17:20
rinigusin this respect, lbt, could you please look at and tell what's possible from OBS side?17:20
poetasterrinigus: I'm wondering if there isn't already data and meta data in obs and all that's needed is to fetch it.17:43
poetasterrinigus: I don't really see a need for more services for hosting ... if stuff like screenshots are specified in a spec, can't all the data simply be fetched from obs?17:44
poetasterrinigus: obviously, user comments, bug reporting and so are out of scope, but I see that as phase 2+17:44
riniguspoetaster: see that issue regarding bug reports and other aspects. as for already data available, not sure. or maybe too slow to refresh for some reason18:16
poetasterI'm looking at the PackageKit stuff, chumabstractpackagemodel & co.18:22
poetasterrinigus: as I understand it, it's just using the rpm supplied info.18:22
riniguslooking at the same :)18:23
poetasterbegin at the beginning ;)18:23
poetasterfirst a bite to eat ...18:23
poetaster(literally, haven't eaten since lunch)18:23
piggzrinigus: i going out tonight (no kids!) but we def should think about common hw repo :)18:30
poetasterpiggz: have fun (kid one coming, righ, now)18:34
riniguspiggz: enjoy!18:35
frojndPure maps was gone21:05
frojndI just noticed, went to official store tried to install it, didn't go through, rebooted tried install with open repos21:05
frojndAnd now I have error21:05

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