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| attah | rinigus: Lookimg to update harbour-thermalcam in chum... if i'm reading the instructions correctly, i should be a maintainer for it in testing? Looks like i'm maybe not - or at least i can't edit there _service file. | 08:30 |
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| attah | Thanks to whoever fixed that :) | 17:17 |
| piggz[m] | attah: youre a telecoms guy ... any way to know what channel numbers are used by the uk alert system ... there was a wildfire alert on friday, and I didnt get it on sfos | 17:56 |
| attah | piggz[m]: I actually did the test tool for that... so a reasonable thought, but i'll have to check | 18:01 |
| attah | (i didn't do the tests) | 18:01 |
| piggz[m] | attah: you got the alert on sfos? | 18:02 |
| attah | i haven't gotten any alerts on SFOS - not sure they are running those quite yet in Swederp | 18:03 |
| attah | I just meant that this is scary close to my day job | 18:04 |
| piggz[m] | ah ok | 18:04 |
| piggz[m] | i have various channels enabled in settings, but no idea what channels are used over here | 18:05 |
| mal | I wonder if those were either channels 4396 or 4397 | 18:06 |
| attah | Right, that's a thing now. But not under cellular settings? | 18:06 |
| mal | https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/123000_123099/123041/17.04.00_60/ts_123041v170400p.pdf | 18:06 |
| piggz[m] | attah: under Settings > Emergency, in 5.2 | 18:07 |
| mal | check chapter 9.4.1.2.2 | 18:07 |
| piggz[m] | mal: if so, those are not enabled in the UI | 18:09 |
| attah | Sounds pretty reasonable. The ones explicitly mentioning fire looks overly specialized. | 18:09 |
| mal | yeah, that is something that would be good to know | 18:09 |
| mal | piggz[m]: any way to ask from some government officials there? | 18:10 |
| piggz[m] | i wonder if attah has any links to UK mobile providers that might know | 18:10 |
| attah | I haven't seen an operator in 10 years... i do test tools :) | 18:11 |
| attah | But indeed, asking seems like the way to go | 18:12 |
| attah | possibly comparing to Android if they even expose settings | 18:12 |
| mal | I wonder if we should add setting for those 4396 and 4397 | 18:12 |
| piggz[m] | I know my daughter has 'extreme' and 'severe' enabled on her iphone and got the alert | 18:13 |
| mal | hmm | 18:13 |
| mal | does iphone list the channels enabled in those? | 18:13 |
| attah | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU-Alert | 18:14 |
| attah | That seems to map extreme and severe to some hex numbers | 18:14 |
| attah | 4396 being 112c, level 4 | 18:14 |
| mal | so probably was not that then based on the description that that is used for | 18:15 |
| mal | piggz[m]: does the device use hidl or aidl binder for telephony? | 18:17 |
| attah | Does a received alert say what id it used in the gui? | 18:24 |
| PeasantWolf | I took a screenshot of it (forgot to disable the alerting gunk on my work phone). says "severe alert", but no number | 18:29 |
| PeasantWolf | work android phone, i should specify | 18:29 |
| attah | Good info - but not what i meant. | 18:30 |
| attah | I meant that if it doesn't already do that on SFOS, please consider it so we can gradually resolve things like this. | 18:31 |
| PeasantWolf | ah, no worires | 18:31 |
| piggz[m] | mal: binder | 18:32 |
| piggz[m] | mal: i checked my wifes Volla .. the message was a 'severe' class, but cant find a channe there | 18:33 |
| mal | piggz[m]: I mean which binder | 18:33 |
| attah | SFOS and wikipedia seems to have the same idea of severe | 18:36 |
| mal | yeah, we probably took from the etsi spec I linked, which matches wikipedia | 18:36 |
| attah | Very sensibly so... i just mean that if there was some bonus ones that did not explicitly state it but should still be considered - wikipedia would often accumulate such info over time | 18:38 |
| mal | needs some consideration if those public safety messages should be possible, are those available as option on android or iphone? | 18:40 |
| mal | near the end of this year we should be getting those messages also in finland, makes testing much easier | 18:43 |
| piggz[m] | mal: binder 1.4 + ofono-binder-plugin-ext-mtk | 18:44 |
| mal | ok | 18:44 |
| mal | ext plugin should not have any effect on this | 18:45 |
| mal | cbs is part of regular telephony api | 18:45 |
| piggz[m] | good to know | 18:45 |
| mal | attah: based on logs the cbs message did arrive but for yet unknown reason parsing it failed | 19:40 |
| attah | Yeah, the encoding of this is a bitch | 19:40 |
| mal | parsing is done in ofono core | 19:41 |
| mal | assuming of course the data got there intact | 19:42 |
| attah | No way some c code would get 7-bit nonsense wrong :D | 19:44 |
| piggz[m] | looks like that code matches upstream ofono too | 19:51 |
| mal | piggz[m]: attah: maybe this is needed https://github.com/sailfishos/ofono/pull/50 | 20:10 |
| piggz[m] | ah, so recent too! | 20:10 |
| attah | Sounds very promising | 20:12 |
| piggz[m] | mal: i wish we could drop glib from sfos ofono and use upstream/ell ... would benefit upstream to have this function too | 20:16 |
| attah | Very sensible point. Less realistically; i'd have preferred C++, Rust or whatever with decent abstractions in the actual language. | 20:23 |
| mal | piggz[m]: yeah, maybe upstreaming can be considered later, not sure how direct compatible functions exist in ell | 20:26 |
| piggz[m] | ell just replaces the event loop stuff i think | 20:27 |
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