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| Mister_Magister | mal: so is jolla planning on fixing HBM or is it still something that needs to be done? I might look into it (again) if its the latter | 09:38 |
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| *** Ischwitch is now known as Ingvix | 09:48 | |
| Mister_Magister | abr: ^ do you know perhaps? | 10:13 |
| abr | No I don't know anything about hbm. mal would be the one to ask. | 10:27 |
| abr | I think you should have a look | 10:27 |
| abr | because I don't think anyone will do it at Jolla without a supported device that needs it | 10:27 |
| abr | but mal would know for sure | 10:27 |
| piggz[m] | Simple option would be, if als > × turn on hbm, and leave the rest of the adaptive brightness code? | 11:07 |
| abr | i think mal mentioned that at least one xperia already turns it on automatically in certain circumstances | 11:52 |
| mal | piggz[m]: abr: xperia 10 iii has automatic hbm which gets enabled if brightness is set to maximum, it also has a sysfs file to force hbm on at any brightness | 13:08 |
| abr | I think it makes sense for it to only activate on max brightness | 13:08 |
| abr | but any auto setting would have to make sure it hasn't already been enabled by something else | 13:10 |
| mal | afaik it's not possible to disable the automatic mode | 13:10 |
| abr | yeah I meant the other way around | 13:18 |
| henk | does anyone know how to set nameservers in connman? I’m assuming this is the problem, but I don’t know … the wifi in my gs290 is too weak and my desk is too far away from the hotspots. so I want sailfish to just use the USB connection and route its traffic through my laptop. IP works fine, but names are not getting resolved. /etc/resolv.conf has ::1 and 127.0.0.1. connman is | 18:31 |
| henk | listening on those IPs on port 53. but I’m not sure what it does. I’m assuming it’s just a forwarder to an actual recursing resolver, so I guess I need to set one in connman, I just have no idea how … any tips? | 18:31 |
| Mister_Magister | abr: you are playing with browser rn can you tell me if I can ship additional preinstalled shortcut in the browser with my port? For some lil branding? | 18:49 |
| Mister_Magister | like tye facebook/yt/twitter (should be x at this point btw) | 18:49 |
| x2s | henk: systemd-resolved is running on the JP2026 | 19:04 |
| henk | x2s: hm, not on my gs290 … JP2026 is the current jolla phone, I’m guessing? | 19:20 |
| x2s | yes | 19:23 |
| x2s | Could you check the unit how conman is started? | 19:23 |
| x2s | if -nodnsproxy is not set, then it itself acts as dns proxy | 19:24 |
| x2s | also does a /var/run/connman/resolv.conf exist? | 19:25 |
| henk | mhm … now I’m wondering whether there have been architectural changes which just have not been applied to my installation, yet. this system was likely created around 2021 … | 19:26 |
| henk | ExecStart=/usr/sbin/connmand -n -W nl80211 --nobacktrace --noplugin=wifi $SYSCONF_ARGS $CONNMAN_ARGS | 19:26 |
| x2s | hm | 19:26 |
| x2s | does this help? https://together.jolla.com/question/228724/bug-connman-main-settings/ | 19:26 |
| henk | hm, I mean, it points into some directions and following those pointers I find some directions I could go. but they seem like they might interfere with other things later … | 19:30 |
| henk | do you have connman running? | 19:30 |
| abr | Mister_Magister: /usr/share/sailfish-browser/default-content/bookmarks.json | 19:31 |
| Mister_Magister | thank you :) | 19:31 |
| Mister_Magister | more branding! | 19:31 |
| henk | x2s: and yes, that file exists. /var/run points to /run and /etc/resolv.conf points to /run/connman/resolv.conf | 19:31 |
| abr | Mister_Magister: if you are including the sailfish-content-browser-default package, drop it and replace it with your own. | 19:33 |
| Mister_Magister | yooooo thanks that's goated tip | 19:33 |
| Mister_Magister | more branding! | 19:33 |
| Mister_Magister | tho my branding is really non-intrusive | 19:33 |
| x2s | henk: connman is still used for the newer phones | 19:34 |
| henk | does anyone know what a standard setup on sailfish 5 should look like? should connman even still be in the mix? is systemd-resolved standard? what other stuff should be running? | 19:34 |
| henk | ah | 19:34 |
| Mister_Magister | sfos 5.1 uses systemd-resolved but connman has to be there | 19:34 |
| Mister_Magister | hmm I can't find oneshot for the kernel update | 19:36 |
| x2s | henk: it might be possible to set a dns server with connmanctl | 19:38 |
| henk | hm, should I be able to update a community port (by piggz) of sailfish to the latest and greatest version? or can I only use the versions listed on e.g. https://build.sailfishos.org/project/subprojects/nemo:testing:hw:volla:yggdrasil in this case? | 19:39 |
| Mister_Magister | henk: are you having issues with dns? | 19:39 |
| Mister_Magister | piggz[m]: go update your port | 19:39 |
| henk | Mister_Magister: well, self-made issues (; phone’s wifi is too weak and it’s too far from the AP. so I want it to use the USB network connection to get to the internet. and I was wondering what the proper way to set the nameserver is in that case. | 19:41 |
| Mister_Magister | abr: now i just need some wallpapers branding xd | 19:41 |
| henk | huh, `zypper se resolved` doesn’t even find a package for resolved | 19:45 |
| Mister_Magister | henk: are you on 5.1? | 19:54 |
| Mister_Magister | oh ye it doesn't | 19:54 |
| henk | Mister_Magister: no, 5.0.0.62 | 19:54 |
| Mister_Magister | 5.0 does'nt use resolved iirc | 19:55 |
| henk | ah ok | 19:55 |
| Mister_Magister | mal: android guy said to just write 1 to it and like, that's it | 20:31 |
| Mister_Magister | you don't need time limit, you don't need anything | 20:32 |
| henk | any advice on how to get VoLTE going? I inserted a new sim card and it registers fine for mobile data but not for voice. phone app says "no network coverage" and the dot next to "4G calling (VoLTE)" keeps blinking. status underneath is "Not registered". Correct network is selected and internet works. what else could I check? | 20:34 |
| mal | try forcing 2g and then back to 4g or 5g | 20:36 |
| henk | I found something about ofono-binder-plugin vs ofono-ril-binder-plugin, rebooting now to see whether this helps | 20:40 |
| mal | afaik only ofono-binder-plugin will allow volte | 20:41 |
| mal | I don't see why any device from recent years would use anything else than ofono-binder-plugin | 20:42 |
| henk | mal: in https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/no-outgoing-calls-possible-solved/13632/18 piggz says »Erm, how have you ended up with ofono-binder-plugin, and not ofono-ril-binder-plugin? The latter is explicity required in the device pattern!« | 20:47 |
| henk | (I’m still reading that thread, though) | 20:48 |
| henk | hm, either I don’t get it or there is nothing useful in that thread … | 20:50 |
| henk | but with the 'ril' version I can’t even enable the VoLTE setting … | 20:50 |
| mal | henk: which device is that? | 20:51 |
| henk | mal: gs290 | 20:51 |
| henk | yggdrasil | 20:51 |
| mal | needs info from piggz[m] to know why that is used | 20:51 |
| henk | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/no-outgoing-calls-possible-on-vollaphone-gs290/15637/4 also on that topic … | 20:52 |
| mal | henk: can you show output "binder-list -d /dev/hwbinder | grep -i radio" | 20:52 |
| mal | install libgbinder-tools package is binder-list command is not found | 20:53 |
| henk | mal: https://bpa.st/LSPQ | 20:53 |
| mal | so it has binder interface up to 1.4 | 20:54 |
| mal | henk: was that missing voice registration when using the ril plugin? | 20:55 |
| henk | mal: with the non-ril plugin the button/dot kept flashing. with the ril plugin it just stays off and tapping it doesn’t seem to change anything. | 20:55 |
| mal | anyway you could install ofono-binder-plugin ? and then add a file like this https://github.com/mlehtima/droid-config-fp5/blob/master/sparse/etc/ofono/binder.d/fp5.conf but with 1.5 replaced with 1.4 | 20:56 |
| henk | with ril, the phone does think it’s connected though and tries dialling but nothing happens, really. with non-ril it just said "no network coverage" and didn’t even try dialling. | 20:56 |
| mal | so that config file goes to /etc/ofono/binder.d/ folder | 20:57 |
| henk | installing it will require me to uninstall patterns-sailfish-device-adaptation-yggdrasil-0.0.4+hybris.17.20240701203736.4.gd945c72-1.1.2.bso.aarch64 and patterns-sailfish-device-configuration-yggdrasil-0.0.4+hybris.17.20240701203736.4.gd945c72-1.1.2.bso.aarch64 again. which I installed as the threads said they would have made it so the correct (at that point in time apparently the | 20:58 |
| henk | 'ril' variant) plugin would be installed. | 20:58 |
| henk | I didn’t really dig into it but these patterns sound like they are a kind of metapackage, i.e. they just pull in packages, so they aren’t needed per se, are they? | 20:59 |
| henk | ah, whatever, I’ll just do that. something needs fixing anyway, so why not this … | 21:00 |
| Mister_Magister | i wonder if my WP PR would do | 21:02 |
| Mister_Magister | it would it was turning on HBM when brightness was max | 21:03 |
| henk | mal: hm, now it doesn’t detect any simcards … | 21:05 |
| henk | oh, no, wait | 21:06 |
| henk | forgot to adjust the file m( | 21:06 |
| henk | adjusted, rebooted, still doesn’t find simcards | 21:09 |
| mal | hmm, strange | 21:10 |
| henk | removed the file again: sim cards are found, internet connection works, "4G calling (VoLTE)" keeps flashing | 21:14 |
| mal | henk: try without the last line | 21:28 |
| henk | mal: oh, it finds sim cards. and internet works. | 21:33 |
| henk | and "4G calling (VoLTE)" is flashing. so that’s good so far, I guess | 21:34 |
| mal | are voice calls works even in 2g? | 21:37 |
| henk | I don’t think that’s even still supported on the network … | 21:37 |
| henk | yeah, no, that was disabled on the network in 2023 | 21:39 |
| henk | and 3G was shutdown in june of 2025 | 21:39 |
| henk | or starting in june | 21:39 |
| henk | so the only option seems to be 4G which doesn’t really do calls IIUC but relies on VoLTE, right? | 21:40 |
| x2s | yes | 21:41 |
| x2s | 2G as fallback if no VoLTE is available. | 21:41 |
| henk | oh … I have been going through this in june 2025 but didn’t have a lot of time. they were basically telling me "hey, you have 5 days to switch to volte!" and I had too much other stuff going on to be able to care properly … back then it seems some part of the resolution was: 2025-06-07 16:41:53 piggz[m] so .. notkit implemented the ofono plugin, and just told me that the | 21:46 |
| henk | older gs290 uses a different interface which isnt implemented | 21:46 |
| henk | damn. I forgot about that … | 21:46 |
| henk | mal, x2s, Mister_Magister: thank you very much for your inputs! I’ll wait for piggz to see if they know whether anything about this has changed in the meantime, but I’m not holding my breath /-: | 21:47 |
| x2s | henk: :( | 21:54 |
| mal | oh | 21:57 |
| henk | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ too bad. and I have only just a year ago bought the android phone, so I can’t really justify spending ~700CHF on the jolla phone, given my financial situation and outlook /-: | 22:15 |
| henk | hopefully the next one :D | 22:16 |
| mal | well implementing the volte plugin is not that difficult | 23:13 |
| Mister_Magister | "not that difficult" says the guy whose skills surpass everyone in this channel | 23:19 |
| Mister_Magister | not difficult for YOU | 23:19 |
| Mister_Magister | incredibly complicated for us mortal folk | 23:19 |
| mal | well I can give hints what to do, and since there is existing plugin to use as base it's just about changing the binder calls to correct format | 23:29 |
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