| nyov | oi, i love your sdk. faaaancy :D | 00:02 |
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| nyov | now if only i had some qt knowhow. or even c++ knowledge under my toolbelt... | 00:03 |
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| nyov | help, what do I put into the "target url" of the sdk to add an armv6 target? | 02:00 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hello sailors ;) | 02:41 |
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| Jonni | nyov: target url should point to target rootfs. | 05:50 |
| Jonni | (or atleast in theory it downloads and extracts the .tar.bz2 from the url) | 05:52 |
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| nyov | Jonni: thanks, yes I saw the malformed curl call without the target url: "curl > /srv/mer/targets/SailfishOS-armv6l-armel.tar.bz2" | 05:58 |
| nyov | but i'm not quite sure what it should download from where? | 05:58 |
| nyov | or, where do I get the rootfs? | 06:01 |
| nyov | do I have to build it myself? | 06:02 |
| Jonni | arm rootfs has not been released yet, so the sdk is currently x86 only. | 06:05 |
| nyov | oh | 06:06 |
| nyov | I don't suppose there is anything inofficial, alpha-stage, no-batteries-included-like from some obscure chinese warez server available for testing? ;D | 06:17 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:57 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | !seen MFaroTusino | 09:19 |
| Merbot` | Sfiet_Konstantin: MFaroTusino was last seen in #sailfishos 4 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <MFaroTusino> off to get coding :) | 09:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 09:19 |
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| Merbot` | Sfiet_Konstantin: I have not seen MFaroTusino_. | 09:20 |
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| chriadam | !seen MFaro-Tusino | 09:26 |
| Merbot` | chriadam: MFaro-Tusino was last seen in #sailfishos 6 hours, 44 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <MFaro-Tusino> hello sailors ;) | 09:26 |
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| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, morning mate | 10:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello GentSir :) | 10:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how are you today ? | 10:44 |
| GentSir | Enjoying my morning coffee | 10:44 |
| GentSir | How's France this fine day? | 10:44 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | will soon enjoying my lunch | 10:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | right now, I'm in Lausanne, rainy day ... | 10:44 |
| GentSir | The south of Florida will be very sunny today :) | 10:45 |
| GentSir | Little chilly, only 23C today | 10:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | LOL | 10:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | take 20 degrees, and you have temp here | 10:45 |
| GentSir | Got a high of 7C in my hometown today | 10:47 |
| GentSir | It's really warm there | 10:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | anyway, it is said to be the worst spring of the last y x 10^2 years | 10:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | y in [1, 9] | 10:52 |
| GentSir | I'm still on my first coffee, no math :) | 10:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm already at comiling llvm so ... | 11:03 |
| GentSir | It's already after noon for you though | 11:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nope just noon | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I'm rather hungry :P | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and sleepy | 11:04 |
| GentSir | Don't the French only work 5 hours a day, 3 of those spent drinking coffee? | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: hahaha | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, I'm a student | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no, french work 8 hours / day | 11:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but half of the year they are on strike | 11:04 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/business/american-executive-lashes-out-at-french-unions-touching-off-uproar.html?_r=0 | 11:05 |
| GentSir | That's funny stuff | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's the vision of france from USA point of view | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I have to ackon that for a stranger, it is chaos in france | 11:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, when you know the country better, it is easy to find order in chaos | 11:06 |
| GentSir | I didn't say that article was true, I just found it funny | 11:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | indeed it is | 11:06 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | but well, that vision is correct for an external point of view | 11:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's what i want to say :) | 11:06 |
| GentSir | Us Americans aren't much better | 11:07 |
| GentSir | I've worked since I was 15, 80% of my coworkers have been useless slackers | 11:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | French people are known as very efficient though | 11:08 |
| GentSir | So they get in their 3 hours and do as much work as an American does in 10 hours? | 11:08 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | dunno | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there was a study saying that they were efficient | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the problem is not the people | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is the institution | 11:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | over protected labour market | 11:10 |
| GentSir | Regulation is good, but sometimes Unionization goes a little too far | 11:11 |
| GentSir | The classic example of it here is teachers unions for public schools | 11:11 |
| GentSir | It's practically impossible to fire a tenured public school teacher | 11:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I don't know what is the best system | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did not tried them all yet | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I hope that one day I will :) | 11:13 |
| GentSir | Well, there are much worse systems | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I would have to say, there is a system that suits you | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I want something more dynamic right now, since I'm young | 11:14 |
| * lbt checks backlog and despairs for productivity for both nations | 11:14 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so I considered going to the states | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: :D | 11:14 |
| GentSir | The states aren't bad. Not perfect, but not bad | 11:14 |
| GentSir | lbt, amen | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | true | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or to Finland :D | 11:14 |
| GentSir | What's so great about Finland? | 11:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Jolla :D | 11:14 |
| GentSir | ah, good point | 11:15 |
| lbt | best education system in the world | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nordic countries are said to be nice as well | 11:15 |
| * lbt is English btw | 11:15 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for many reasons | 11:15 |
| GentSir | Yes, I've always wanted to live in Iceland | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | too cold | 11:15 |
| GentSir | But doubt I ever will | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | look, it is called Ice land | 11:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 11:15 |
| GentSir | I'm from Michigan, cold doesn't bother me | 11:15 |
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| GentSir | lbt, English as in British? | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | btw, lbt, right now I'm : http://xkcd.com/303/ | 11:16 |
| GentSir | I feel awful for those guys that use all interpreted languages, no coffee breaks | 11:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: there is computing time break :D | 11:18 |
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| lbt | GentSir: yes | 11:23 |
| lbt | Sfiet_Konstantin: ah, so you're clearly not using our SDK as it's so blazingly fast even Zorro wouldn't get an en-guarde in... | 11:23 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Well, I launched my optimization python script, see ya tomorrow | 11:24 |
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| GentSir | Guess I DC'd | 11:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: compiling LLVM right now :S | 11:24 |
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| lbt | ah | 11:25 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | the SDK is fast, but it eats ram | 11:27 |
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| GentSir | I only have a 2gb system, I'm doing another desktop build with 16gb or possibly 32gb soon so I can really do some work. | 11:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe i should try to deploy on the iconia instead | 11:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe not ... | 11:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm gonna cook | 11:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | see ya | 11:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | since LLVM takes ages to compile | 11:31 |
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| lbt | Sfiet_Konstantin: yeah - I would like some time to look at optimising that - it could be far better under linux | 11:32 |
| lbt | o/ | 11:32 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: that would be nice | 11:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't know if it is the emu that takes all that ram | 11:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or the mer VM | 11:34 |
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| sardini | hello | 20:31 |
| sardini | I try to install sailfish sdk, but : QGtkStyle was unable to detect the current GTK+ theme. | 20:32 |
| sardini | No marker found, stopped after 1.00 MiB. | 20:32 |
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| sardini | gtk-theme is ok, now what is 'No marker found, stopped after 1.00MiB' ? | 20:58 |
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| sardini | bad download? | 21:01 |
| sardini | is there life here? | 21:02 |
| sardini | md5 for sailfish-linux-64-offline.run ? | 21:06 |
| fk_lx | sardini: there is a life here | 21:13 |
| fk_lx | sardini: although it's not a hotline, sometimes you need to wait for answer | 21:13 |
| fk_lx | sardini: as far as I know there is md5 for sdk somewhere online, lbt for sure has posted it somewhere | 21:14 |
| nyov | sardini: md5 is in the topic | 21:15 |
| sardini | oh funny, :) | 21:16 |
| fk_lx | :-D | 21:16 |
| lbt | :) | 21:17 |
| fk_lx | lbt: it wouldn't hurt to put the md5 here https://sailfishos.org/develop.html | 21:17 |
| fk_lx | lbt: if you would be so kind :-D | 21:17 |
| fk_lx | that would give +1 to usability to sailfishos.org :-P | 21:18 |
| lbt | :) | 21:18 |
| lbt | how to phrase this... +1 usability to a certain subset of users... ? | 21:19 |
| lbt | sardini: was it a bad download? | 21:19 |
| lbt | or https://sailfishos.org//wiki/SDK_Alpha_Known_Issues mentions please run "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" before running installer | 21:20 |
| lbt | for some gtk theme issues | 21:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: there are websites (eg ubuntu ?) that displays md5 in an advanced section etc. That's rather nice for newcomers and for experts | 21:20 |
| fk_lx | lbt: Download the 32 bit or 64 bit Linux installer. -> Download the 32 bit (md5) or 64 bit (md5) Linux installer. | 21:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | btw, hello sardini o/ | 21:21 |
| sardini | probably a wrong download, now it seems ok | 21:21 |
| sardini | just a little vbowdrv setup | 21:22 |
| lbt | I'll certainly propose it | 21:22 |
| lbt | I think a better solution would be for QtCreator installer to provide a self-check mechanism | 21:22 |
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| lbt | I think the payload is sufficiently isolated that it could do that | 21:23 |
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| lbt | source available if anyone wants to take a look ? | 21:23 |
| sardini | hello Sfiet_Konstantin | 21:23 |
| fk_lx | lbt: I can look (but that doesn't mean I will add that md5 check to it) :-) | 21:26 |
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| sardini | lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur, hello world, sailfishsdk is ok :) | 21:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: congrats | 21:58 |
| sardini | well, if download is ok, there is no pb... boring... ^^ | 21:59 |
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| SfietKonstantin | lbt: ping ?? | 22:44 |
| SfietKonstantin | lbt: do you know how to enable SSH access to tablet with sailfish SDK image on it ? | 22:45 |
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| lbt | well | 22:45 |
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| lbt | it should have it by default | 22:46 |
| lbt | your problem will be that authorized_keys is setup specially | 22:46 |
| lbt | so you'll need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 22:46 |
| lbt | it's a special image for virtualbox so it expects a mountpoint to share them | 22:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: I cannot ping nor ssh into my device | 22:47 |
| lbt | once you've done that (and maybe restored StrictMode | 22:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nmap says that it is all filtered | 22:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe iptables related ? | 22:47 |
| lbt | no | 22:47 |
| lbt | console? | 22:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | console what ? | 22:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 22:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: I'm using a physical device with Sailfish SDK image on it :D it is a physical device | 22:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: want to get rid of the need of the emu in my dev work | 22:48 |
| lbt | yep, I got that | 22:49 |
| lbt | so does it have a keyboard? | 22:49 |
| lbt | plug in a USB one and ctrl-alt-F2 | 22:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm in it :) | 22:49 |
| lbt | like that ^^ ? | 22:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I mean I'm in the term | 22:50 |
| lbt | to be clear - are you ssh'ed in or console | 22:50 |
| GentSir | Sfiet_Konstantin, I thought the tab had a keyboard build in? | 22:50 |
| GentSir | *built in | 22:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: nope | 22:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: console | 22:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: ssh do not work so ... | 22:51 |
| lbt | Sfiet_Konstantin: so you can check networking now | 22:51 |
| sardini | Sfiet_Konstantin, have you an ip ? lol | 22:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | GentSir: it is sold as a spearated kbd | 22:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: yeah I have one, I can ping the laptop from the tab | 22:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not the reverse | 22:51 |
| lbt | standard ethernet ? | 22:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: wifi | 22:52 |
| lbt | one way ping sounds like something on your LAN is messed up a bit | 22:54 |
| lbt | the SDK image has no iptables afair | 22:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: well, iptables -L shows that there is one :D | 22:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | seems to be a dependancy for connman | 22:57 |
| sardini | Sfiet_Konstantin, and sshd is running ?? | 22:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah it is | 22:59 |
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| lbt | you have an iptables entry on the emulator image? | 22:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nope | 23:00 |
| lbt | oh, you mean iptables command is present, yes, sure | 23:00 |
| sardini | Sfiet_Konstantin, port 2222 | 23:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: iptables -L returns nothing | 23:01 |
| lbt | sardini: no, that's a NAT trick on the virtualbox | 23:01 |
| sardini | ok sorry | 23:02 |
| lbt | localhost:2222 is mapped to emulator 22 | 23:02 |
| lbt | np | 23:02 |
| sardini | Sfiet_Konstantin, just start sshd, no? | 23:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum problem | 23:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tab cannot ping comp | 23:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :S | 23:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok I think that there is something wrong | 23:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the two devices cannot communicate | 23:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will see that another day | 23:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks for your time lbt, sardini | 23:09 |
| sardini | Sfiet_Konstantin, bad subclass network ? | 23:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: don't know | 23:11 |
| sardini | ifconfig tell you the netmask | 23:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | nope | 23:17 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | and i hate network stuff | 23:17 |
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| sardini | if you got your ip by dhcp, the network should be ok | 23:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but it is not | 23:21 |
| sardini | some Gremlins ... | 23:23 |
| sardini | people never trust me when I say gremlins destroy computer, mainly windows computer... | 23:24 |
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| SfietKonstantin | I'm thinking that there is some filtering inside the wifi area | 23:30 |
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