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| merlin1991 | Morpog_PC: qt creator uses a different key format than openssh (I think openssh can conver it though), and puttygen only understands openssh and its own format so qtcreator -> openssh -> puttygen -> putty should work | 01:33 |
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| mr0wl | is sailfishos going to be offically called "sailfish" or "sailfish os" | 01:52 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello everybody ! | 06:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Jolla people, did the Linux Sailfish OS SDK got updated in the process or only the Mac and Windows version were released ? | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | no, it's just extra versions | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | made sense | 06:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: thanks :) | 06:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is there an auto update feature like on the QtSDK ? | 06:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or we will need to download the beta once again ? | 06:59 |
| Nicd- | the OS X version was released? :O | 06:59 |
| Nicd- | need to download it today | 07:00 |
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| Yaniel | Sfiet_Konstantin: the sdk maintenance tool is not yet in use | 07:32 |
| Yaniel | and the osx version seems to work nicely | 07:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 07:36 |
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| Yaniel | anyone around who would know about this? | 07:37 |
| Yaniel | < mr0wl> is sailfishos going to be offically called "sailfish" or "sailfish os" | 07:37 |
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| jukkaeklund | Yaniel, check sailfishos.org and you have your answer | 07:40 |
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| auri__ | Although I did subscribe to the mailing list on https://lists.sailfishos.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel , I havent got any confirmation email yet.. List admin, kindly check.. thanks | 08:04 |
| dm8tbr | auri__: (I'm not listmaster) did you receive the initial address verification email? | 08:04 |
| auri__ | nope, not that even.. | 08:05 |
| dm8tbr | checked your spam folders? | 08:05 |
| auri__ | :) I am sure I did.. I just subscribed again, let me check | 08:07 |
| lbt | Sfiet_Konstantin: we're not planning to use the QtCreator update feature to update the first alpha | 08:10 |
| auri__ | nope, no luck .. no confirmation emails yet | 08:10 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: that's a case for you | 08:11 |
| lbt | will look at it | 08:12 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o lbt | 08:21 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: feel free to adjust topic | 08:21 |
| *** lbt changes topic to "http://www.sailfishos.org - alpha SDK out now for linux/mac/win - MD5s: http://jolla.cachefly.net/SailfishOSSDK/alpha/installers/MD5SUMS. See http://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Known_Issues too" | 08:23 | |
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| auri__ | lbt: No confirmation email as yet | 08:44 |
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| k00pa | what language is used to develop for the sailfisher? | 08:49 |
| k00pa | aah c++ | 08:50 |
| k00pa | nicenice | 08:50 |
| Yaniel | C/C++ with Qt, JS + QML, AFAIK python works too | 08:51 |
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| k00pa | c++ with qt is officially supported? | 08:51 |
| Yaniel | yes | 08:51 |
| k00pa | and not like in c++ in android.. | 08:51 |
| k00pa | yeh this looks pretty nice | 08:52 |
| Yaniel | for UI code, QML is kind of recommended | 08:52 |
| k00pa | yah that doesn't look that bad | 08:52 |
| k00pa | I really hope this thing gets of, I am tired of androids and iphones.. :P | 08:52 |
| Yaniel | many are | 08:52 |
| k00pa | any idea when the phones are coming out with this? | 08:53 |
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| Yaniel | they said they aim for the christmas market or so | 08:54 |
| k00pa | sounds good | 08:58 |
| lbt | auri__: looking - I don't see information about subscribe attempts | 09:02 |
| Nicd- | oh hi k00pa | 09:08 |
| k00pa | Nicd-: o/ | 09:08 |
| k00pa | Nicd-: saw a tweet about sdk installers and now I am here :P | 09:09 |
| lbt | :) | 09:09 |
| lbt | k00pa: c++ for logic, QML for UI (QML is ~ data used by C++ code with embedded javascript for more complex UI-specific logic) | 09:11 |
| k00pa | that sounds nice, java or c# :D | 09:11 |
| k00pa | * no java c# | 09:11 |
| k00pa | or obj-c | 09:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, beware | 09:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if you don't like "high level" language, then you might not like QML | 09:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is very high level (but optimized though) | 09:13 |
| k00pa | UI stuff is good on high level, but something like application logic is good to run in c++ | 09:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah, but wrapped around Qt | 09:14 |
| k00pa | hmm yeh | 09:14 |
| k00pa | well I try it out | 09:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and Qt is way easier to use than plain C++ | 09:14 |
| k00pa | then I see if I like it | 09:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you will see it is easy and fun | 09:14 |
| Nicd- | well, it's hard to decide between C++ and Python | 09:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I feel that both are good, but some specific things can only be done with C++ | 09:15 |
| k00pa | not at all for me :D I dont like python at all | 09:15 |
| k00pa | any ideas about supporting other more sane scripting languages? | 09:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like ? | 09:16 |
| k00pa | well I cant think about any sane scripting languages.. | 09:17 |
| lbt | ruby! | 09:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | never tried ruby. Some says it is nice | 09:17 |
| Nicd- | what's wrong with python? I find it ok | 09:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | python is not only ok it is quite good | 09:18 |
| lbt | it's good - and nowadays you can barely see the frothing around the mouth as the beard hides it so well and the mad stare from the eyes distract you | 09:18 |
| lbt | Mer has python and ruby | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | anyway, since this is linux adding support for other scripting languages shouldn't be difficult | 09:18 |
| k00pa | Nicd-: I highly dislike the syntax, also some overhead on it.. | 09:18 |
| k00pa | but yeah its fine | 09:18 |
| k00pa | personal issues mostly | 09:18 |
| Nicd- | PHP 4 Sailfish anyone? ;) | 09:18 |
| * Stskeeps twitches | 09:18 | |
| k00pa | eww :D | 09:18 |
| lbt | I built rails in the SDK for fun the other day - all I needed was nodejs | 09:19 |
| lbt | Nicd-: just "no" | 09:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nicd-: what about no ? | 09:19 |
| Nicd- | I won't accept no for an answer | 09:20 |
| lbt | Mer and Sailfish welcome anyone, even those with .... problems :D | 09:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 09:21 |
| lbt | we can help | 09:21 |
| Nicd- | I won't sleep until I can run my multiprocessing PHP IRC bot on Sailfish | 09:22 |
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| sledges | FRY-DAY! | 09:53 |
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| k00pa | yep | 09:55 |
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| jake9xx | auri__: ping | 10:06 |
| auri__ | jake9xx: pong | 10:06 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: :) | 10:31 |
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| boggins | Can I use QtMobility/Sensors with the Sailfish SDK at the moment? In which case how do I set up the .pro file to include this? | 11:38 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | boggins: I think you can | 11:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but you have to install qt mobility dev from the control center | 11:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (the sailfish icon in the SDK) | 11:42 |
| jake9xx | boggins: sure, qtm is supported to some extent currently, but like Sfiet_Konstantin says, you need qtm headers installed | 11:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | even if qtm do not really make sense in a simu | 11:44 |
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| boggins | aha.. ok thanks, I have only recently installed the SDK and did not yet explore the control centre. Thanks for the tips! I will investigate. | 11:47 |
| jake9xx | boggins: start sdk vm -> click the sailfishos icon on qtc's toolbar -> manage targets: select your sysroot + click 'manage' -> select packages to install | 11:48 |
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| boggins | jake9xx: thanks, I'm doing this right now. | 11:49 |
| jake9xx | boggins: if you need additional stuff you need to manually zypper them in but then it gets complicated (need to do some magic to emulator as wll) | 11:49 |
| boggins | thanks jake9xx. It's doing what I need now anyway - I can build with Sensor support. :) | 11:51 |
| jake9xx | good :) | 11:54 |
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| Xruxa | hi guys. Any other fix available for "Could not connect to host: Timeout waiting for reply from server." other than setting the nameserver to 8.8.8.8? | 13:17 |
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| kaltsi | Xruxa: hi sorry I don't know a fix for that, but could you tell more about your environment.. linux/win/mac, firewall, corporate network? | 13:27 |
| Xruxa | kaltsi: Ubuntu Quantal, 32-bit SDK package, home network, no firewall | 13:28 |
| kaltsi | how about virtualbox version? | 13:29 |
| Xruxa | kaltsi: BTW, I changed the resolv.conf on the merSDK as root, could not change it on the SailfishOS under nemo user | 13:29 |
| kaltsi | Xruxa: I haven't seen this problem my self but I've heard of it.. is it a problem connecting to the merSDK or the emulator? | 13:30 |
| kaltsi | they are two separate virtual machines | 13:31 |
| Xruxa | kaltsi: solved :) | 13:31 |
| kaltsi | :) | 13:31 |
| Xruxa | kaltsi: I changed it on MerSDK, not on the SailfishOS. Someone could note the different root/rootme/nemo users/password combinations on those two :) | 13:32 |
| kaltsi | yeah surely.. but you should not be able to give a password when using ssh, it uses the key authentication | 13:33 |
| Xruxa | kaltsi: I logged from the console on the VM, not ssh. Thanks. | 13:35 |
| kaltsi | oh right | 13:35 |
| kaltsi | (I wasn't aware that I can do a console login with the emulator) :) | 13:36 |
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| sledges | Xruxa, wb ;) | 13:50 |
| Xruxa | sledges: hi again. Been loong time | 13:50 |
| sledges | too true :) good to see you around | 13:56 |
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| marcello_NA | hallo | 18:02 |
| marcello_NA | i've installed the sdk on a linux pc | 18:03 |
| marcello_NA | i get an error running hallo word example | 18:03 |
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| lbt_away | marcello_NA: hey - I'm just on my way out - but explain what your problem is | 18:05 |
| marcello_NA | 20:10:17: Running steps for project untitled... 20:10:17: Starting: "/home/marbru/SailfishOS/share/qtcreator/MerProject/mer-sdk-tools/MerSDK/SailfishOS-i486-x86/qmake" /home/marbru/untitled/untitled.pro -r -spec linux-g++ -after OBJECTS_DIR=obj MOC_DIR=moc UI_DIR=ui RCC_DIR=rcc Connection Error. 'Timeout waiting for reply from server.' 20:10:27: The process "/home/marbru/SailfishOS/share/qtcreator | 18:05 |
| marcello_NA | i've already installed virtualbox | 18:06 |
| marcello_NA | the virtual machine start | 18:08 |
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| marcello_NA | .... | 18:13 |
| lbt_away | back - just making food :) | 18:13 |
| lbt_away | right check the known issues page in the topic | 18:14 |
| lbt_away | http://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Known_Issues | 18:14 |
| lbt_away | its a silly issue with DNS resolving | 18:15 |
| lbt_away | you could try this first: | 18:15 |
| lbt_away | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Ubuntu_12.10_DNS | 18:15 |
| lbt_away | but you'd need to stop and restart the emulator | 18:15 |
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