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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've checked the http://sailfishos.org docs and you can even put a Switch{} in a Pulley menu, so I think dynamic text should work ;) | 09:33 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've tried it! | 09:39 |
| Superpelican | it works | 09:39 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:http://paste.kde.org/p8da674f9/ | 09:41 |
| Superpelican | :D | 09:41 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: what's the problem wth thtat ? | 10:00 |
| Superpelican | it works! :P | 10:01 |
| Superpelican | Dynamic text in Pulley menus works! | 10:01 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I wanted to show you that dynamic text works in pulley menus, because you wasn't sure ;) | 10:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: well, I wasn't sure about a variable number of elements in the pulley menu | 10:10 |
| Superpelican | ah | 10:10 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I think you misunderstood me | 10:13 |
| Superpelican | :D | 10:14 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I didn't mean a variable amount of menu tiems | 10:14 |
| Superpelican | s/tiems/items | 10:14 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:But just change the score in a Menu Item on a C++ signal | 10:14 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:And how's the development of Weatherfish going? | 10:32 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: it is not going :P | 10:39 |
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| piee | hi | 12:25 |
| yunta | hi | 12:26 |
| piee | chinese？ | 12:35 |
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| khertan | Hello ! | 12:59 |
| khertan | i frequently use InfoBanner on Harmattan to signal to user some errors : (like connection timeout on background sync ...) which silica item could i use to signal user errors ? | 13:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | khertan: well | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe you will need notifications | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but they are not here yet IIRC | 13:01 |
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| yunta | piee: no, not much | 13:20 |
| yunta | well, maybe sometimes | 13:20 |
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| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:The guy without a SailfishOS app template replied on the ML | 16:00 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:He followed your advice | 16:00 |
| Superpelican | but | 16:00 |
| Superpelican | it's not there | 16:00 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:I've had that problem too | 16:01 |
| faenil | any fingerterm user in here? | 16:01 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:with the 1st alpha | 16:01 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:Turned out I didn't have a working kit | 16:01 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:So maybe he should check if the MerSDK kit is OK | 16:01 |
| Superpelican | maybe Qt Creator can't find the compiler or Qt etc. | 16:02 |
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| Superpelican | sledgeSim:Could you help me with QML<->C++? | 16:37 |
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| Superpelican | or aren't you a QML/C++ expert either? | 16:38 |
| Superpelican | well | 16:38 |
| Superpelican | it's actually not a very advanced thing | 16:38 |
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| sledgeSim | Superpelican, I always wanted to learn it :) | 16:39 |
| Superpelican | sledgeSim:but do you know the basics? | 16:40 |
| sledgeSim | QML is easy, but C++ bindings is the next thing I want to look into | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | ok | 16:40 |
| sledgeSim | don't ask to ask | 16:40 |
| sledgeSim | just ask :) | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | well | 16:40 |
| sledgeSim | I'll be happy to help if I can, or anyone else on this channel | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | I have a C++/Qt signal | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | and I would like to connect it to a QML/JS function | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | to update a QML object property | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | but to what object should I connect it? | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | the function is defined in a Page{} | 16:41 |
| sledgeSim | Signals and slots created using Qt in C++ are inheritely valid in QML. | 16:41 |
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| sledgeSim | from http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qmlevents.html | 16:41 |
| sledgeSim | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qmlevents.html#c-additions | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | yes | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | but | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | sledgeSim:Would I need to expose my Qt/C++ object to QML with setContextProperty() then? | 16:42 |
| sledgeSim | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/declarative-cppextensions-referenceexamples-signal.html | 16:43 |
| sledgeSim | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/declarative-cppextensions-referenceexamples-signal-birthdayparty-cpp.html | 16:44 |
| sledgeSim | emit partyStarted(time); | 16:44 |
| sledgeSim | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/declarative-cppextensions-referenceexamples-signal-example-qml.html | 16:44 |
| sledgeSim | onPartyStarted: console.log("This party started rockin' at " + time); | 16:44 |
| Superpelican | sledgeSim:But | 16:44 |
| Superpelican | that example instantiates C++ classes in QML | 16:44 |
| Superpelican | I instantiate my class in C++/Qt | 16:45 |
| sledgeSim | 17:44 < Superpelican> that example instantiates C++ classes in QML | 16:45 |
| sledgeSim | ^ could you back it up in code? | 16:45 |
| Superpelican | sledgeSim:of course :) | 16:46 |
| Superpelican | http://paste.kde.org/p3bf2a5e0/ | 16:46 |
| Superpelican | it registers the types to QML | 16:46 |
| Superpelican | so the C++ can be instantiated in QML | 16:46 |
| Superpelican | ;) | 16:46 |
| Superpelican | sledgeSim: + http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/declarative-cppextensions-referenceexamples-signal-example-qml.html | 16:48 |
| sledgeSim | and you cannot instantiate your class the same way? | 16:50 |
| Superpelican | well | 16:50 |
| Superpelican | I'd prefer not to | 16:50 |
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| Superpelican | I want to implement my app logic in C++ | 16:50 |
| Superpelican | and use as less JS as possible | 16:50 |
| Superpelican | only for updating properties | 16:50 |
| sledgeSim | Superpelican, http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/12482/#67468 ? | 16:51 |
| sledgeSim | note links are broken due to nokia/necrosoft ;) | 16:52 |
| sledgeSim | and more links: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=qt+qml+c%2B%2B+class+event&oq=qt+qml+c%2B%2B+class+event | 16:54 |
| sledgeSim | sorry, all i can help is this | 16:55 |
| sledgeSim | setContextProperty looks to be most prevalent | 16:55 |
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| sledgeSim | you want to decouple ui and logic completely.. | 17:05 |
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| Superpelican | sledgeSim:well | 17:08 |
| Superpelican | that's not exactly the reason | 17:08 |
| Superpelican | just want to use C++ instead of JS | 17:09 |
| Superpelican | Sfiet_Konstantin:ping | 17:10 |
| sledgeSim | so a bit of setContextProperty in C++ can't hurt then? ;) | 17:10 |
| Superpelican | well | 17:11 |
| Superpelican | I haven't got setContextProperty to work | 17:11 |
| Superpelican | it broke my QObject::connects | 17:11 |
| sledgeSim | e :) | 17:11 |
| Superpelican | well I got it to work a while ago | 17:11 |
| Superpelican | but that was still alpha 1 | 17:11 |
| sledgeSim | %) | 17:11 |
| Superpelican | and without QObject::connect | 17:11 |
| sledgeSim | o dear | 17:12 |
| Superpelican | ? | 17:13 |
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| sledgeSim | that's weird when you add ::connect things start to break.. | 17:16 |
| sledgeSim | on the first place | 17:16 |
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| Superpelican | Nicd-:Could you help with some QML<->C++ stuff? | 17:21 |
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| Nicd- | probably not, I don't really know QML | 17:22 |
| Superpelican | :( | 17:22 |
| Nicd- | and C++ more at a high level | 17:22 |
| Superpelican | Nicd-:You mean has in high level programming? | 17:22 |
| Superpelican | opposite of low-level (for example kernel programming) | 17:23 |
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| Superpelican | or as in skill level? | 17:23 |
| Nicd- | high level as in higher level of abstraction | 17:23 |
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| Superpelican | ok | 17:24 |
| Superpelican | Nicd-:So your more a Python/Ruby/Perl guy? | 17:24 |
| Superpelican | s/your/you're | 17:24 |
| Nicd- | I write Python at my day job and Elixir at home | 17:24 |
| Superpelican | Nicd-:What's Elixir? | 17:24 |
| Nicd- | a language based on Erlang which runs on the Erlang VM | 17:25 |
| Superpelican | Nicd-:Is it a specific purpose language? | 17:25 |
| spider-mario | it’s mainly used for server things, but not only | 17:25 |
| spider-mario | Wings 3D is written in Erlang as well | 17:25 |
| Superpelican | ok | 17:26 |
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| spider-mario | its main feature is fault tolerance | 17:26 |
| Superpelican | will look it up on <my_search_engine> | 17:26 |
| Nicd- | Superpelican: Erlang/Elixir is good for robust, fault tolerant distributed systems | 17:26 |
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| spider-mario | erlang programs are written as trees of workers and supervisors | 17:26 |
| spider-mario | which don’t have to run on the same machine | 17:27 |
| spider-mario | they communicate via message passing | 17:27 |
| Nicd- | I'm using Elixir to learn functional programming concepts, writing an IRC bot as my first task (naturally) | 17:27 |
| spider-mario | (network-transparently) | 17:27 |
| Superpelican | Nicd-:Are functional programming often used for AI then? | 17:27 |
| Nicd- | I don't know, why? | 17:28 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 17:28 |
| Superpelican | Erlang doesn't look like an average programming language | 17:28 |
| Nicd- | Elixir's syntax is quite a bit more friendly | 17:29 |
| Superpelican | ok | 17:29 |
| Superpelican | I'll look up Elixir | 17:29 |
| Nicd- | and you can pretty much convert any Erlang code 1:1 to Elixir | 17:29 |
| Nicd- | and call any Erlang code from Elixir with no overhead | 17:29 |
| Superpelican | ah I see | 17:30 |
| Superpelican | Elixir is very Python like | 17:30 |
| Nicd- | yeah, kind of Python + Ruby + Erlang | 17:30 |
| Superpelican | I learned a bit of Python | 17:30 |
| Superpelican | before starting learning C++ | 17:31 |
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| Superpelican | A Python book introduced me to the basic concepts of OOP | 17:31 |
| Superpelican | so I'm very happy I read that book | 17:31 |
| Superpelican | and started with Python | 17:31 |
| Superpelican | learning OOP and C++ at the same time | 17:31 |
| Superpelican | would be much more difficult | 17:32 |
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| Nicd- | yeah, our university teaches C++ on basic programming courses. I'd prefer they started with something like Python | 17:37 |
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| Nicd- | so people can write programs that do more than just ask for your age and repeat it :P | 17:38 |
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| spider-mario | you think it’s bad? they teach us Fortran. | 17:43 |
| spider-mario | :D | 17:43 |
| spider-mario | (and C) | 17:43 |
| Nicd- | at least not COBOL | 17:43 |
| spider-mario | PROCEDURE DIVISION | 17:44 |
| Nicd- | STOP RUN. | 17:45 |
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