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| short_sam | How do I become an alpha tester on nexus 4? I am a developer and I'm willing to give detailed reports... Even if I can't do that how much progress has been made? Thanks for your time | 02:59 |
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| Eztran | Just a note, not that many users active at this time of day, so you might not get a response for a while. | 03:02 |
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| gabmus | hello everybody | 15:36 |
| Mossepo | hi | 15:37 |
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| gabmus | little question: does any of you know when the nexus 4 rom will be available to public? | 15:39 |
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| tbr | gabmus: that's going to still take quite long. A early adopter beta phase will start soon, for people who want to help contribute fixes. | 15:40 |
| gabmus | are they using the cyanogenmod kernel or what? | 15:40 |
| gabmus | will they open source the rom? | 15:41 |
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| gabmus | i mean, all of it, including device drivers | 15:41 |
| tbr | gabmus: CM10.1 is the basis, the kernel has probably a changed .config with additional options enabled | 15:41 |
| tbr | gabmus: you can't open source what you don't have the sources for | 15:41 |
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| tbr | gabmus: one of the reasons for using CM10.1 is that they already take care of arranging all binary "drivers" | 15:42 |
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| gabmus | not exacltly what i meant, but you answered my question | 15:43 |
| gabmus | thanks | 15:43 |
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| tbr | and if you are looking for raw sources, they are probably already on github | 15:44 |
| gabmus | i know | 15:45 |
| gabmus | thank you again | 15:45 |
| gabmus | bye | 15:45 |
| gabmus | &leave | 15:45 |
| gabmus | ops | 15:45 |
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| squidd | one just doesnt &leave | 15:46 |
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| satmd | it's dangerous to go alone, take this /quit with you | 15:51 |
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| ps1dj | Hiii :D | 16:09 |
| ps1dj | Can I be a tester? | 16:10 |
| squidd | everyone can be a tester! | 16:10 |
| Yaniel | pm sledges for more info | 16:10 |
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| Danielmn97 | Hello, I want to become an early adopter | 16:41 |
| cos- | buy a Jolla then | 16:41 |
| Morpog | lol | 16:42 |
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| Danielmn97 | But I want to use it in my Nexus 4 | 16:42 |
| polishchocolate | Not only you ;) | 16:43 |
| Danielmn97 | Do you know how to get it? | 16:44 |
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| ps1dj | pm sledges! :) | 16:44 |
| ps1dj | I am waiting for he reply I also have the nexus 4 :D | 16:45 |
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| YoYoZ | HI everyone! | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | hewwo | 17:47 |
| YoYoZ | HOw it's doing guys? | 17:48 |
| YoYoZ | I have a stupid question to ask. Do you have ZIP for hammerhead? | 17:48 |
| YoYoZ | or mako. | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | so we're right now signing up people to be early adopters for mako - no hammerhead images et | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | yet | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | and for i9305 | 17:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | How would one go about signing up for one of these? | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | it's hidden in the youtube video showing nexus 4 | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | ie come here and ask :P | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | which -> /msg sledges | 17:58 |
| polishchocolate | i'm still waiting for reply from him :p | 18:00 |
| * artemma got back from the weekend trip to Tallinn. Always have so much stress when people ask what is that phone and things don't works especially then. Somehow my #jolla malfunctions most exactly on traveling | 18:01 | |
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| YoYoZ | do you need help forhammerhead? | 18:13 |
| YoYoZ | If it's not as different as CM, I can help it hink | 18:13 |
| YoYoZ | If its as difficult as CM* | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | hammerhead is CM11 only? | 18:14 |
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| polishchocolate | so many people here - empty chat :D | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | sunday evening | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:17 |
| artemma | no questions, no answers :) | 18:17 |
| * artemma is proceeding with trying and tuning log4qt for sailfish os | 18:17 | |
| Stskeeps | artemma: we certainly got some good travel tests done with MWC trips for us, too | 18:17 |
| artemma | @Stskeeps: I hope the results were positive :) | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: well, yes, but you also find problems in those circumstances | 18:19 |
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| Stskeeps | we don't try to pretend that we are 100% perfect | 18:19 |
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| artemma | oh well, for now I'd be happy enough if my jolla wouldn't get freaking frozen on every reconenction attempt. And wouldn't slow down over time anymore | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | that one was @$@ irritating yes | 18:20 |
| * artemma is looking at his device progressively slowing down as a quick aging man | 18:20 | |
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| artemma | well, that would possibly make jolla already reliable enough for managing to demonstrate some of its positive things to friends :) | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | it's real magic though, like stuff suddenly turning into synchronous dbus calls | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | which is the last thing you want something to do in a ui | 18:22 |
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| Stskeeps | https://github.com/nemomobile/connectionagent fwiw might be interesting for some people to contribute to | 18:23 |
| * artemma is an app side person. Max I can do is report tickets for e.g. lipstick | 18:23 | |
| Stskeeps | sure | 18:23 |
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| artemma | BTW I was actually using my Flashlight at a night trip to lake lately and it would really make it easier to use if I could start app on a long volume key press | 18:24 |
| artemma | does anybody know abt Jolla/harbour opinion on messing with hardware keys? | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | not happy typically | 18:25 |
| artemma | Likely to be disallowed? To be centrally implemented somehow? | 18:25 |
| raa70 | in n9 you could have a program to make your own 2-4 finger drag gestures to launch programs | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | it's centrally implemented and event routing is a bit of a mess | 18:25 |
| raa70 | worked even in low power screen | 18:26 |
| * artemma could imagine some centrally configurable actions on long-button press. E.g. it could start an easy launcher a'la Symbian's assignment to top 9 contats | 18:26 | |
| artemma | contacts* | 18:26 |
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| * artemma must confess that lately got to opinion that Pulley menu slows him down. Especially when quick action is needed. Saves screen real estate, yes. But at a cost of speed | 18:27 | |
| artemma | BTW, did you guys notice that *sometimes* (often, but not always), if pulley menu has exactly one item, you can launch it quickly by single pulling without precisely positioning cursor exactly on the menu item | 18:28 |
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| artemma | is it a bug or a feature? | 18:28 |
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| YoYoZ | yup it is | 18:31 |
| cos- | artemma: very good idea, i'd use that and it could be distributed from warehouse | 18:31 |
| YoYoZ | sorry for late answer | 18:32 |
| YoYoZ | hammerhead is 4.4 - API level 19 - CM11 | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 18:32 |
| YoYoZ | So, is it possible? | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | right now we're at cm10.1 but it's possible to forward port our patches | 18:32 |
| YoYoZ | So< will you let me try? | 18:32 |
| YoYoZ | I think it should at least boot. | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | well, we'll be doing two things | 18:32 |
| YoYoZ | You use specific kernel? | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | first off, provide images for mako and i9305 | 18:32 |
| YoYoZ | hm | 18:33 |
| YoYoZ | Second? | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | second, teach how to put sailfishos on other devices running cyanogenmod already | 18:33 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, related to hardware key usage: https://together.jolla.com/question/9318/using-the-volume-rocker-from-native-sailfish-applications/ | 18:33 |
| M4rtinK | votes & feedback welcome :) | 18:33 |
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| YoYoZ | So, what can I do for hammerhead? | 18:35 |
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| Stskeeps | YoYoZ: well, two things - help and test to put the patches we've done to cyanogenmod 10.1 on top of cyanogenmod 11 and that the glue still holds | 18:35 |
| YoYoZ | But how can I do iut? | 18:35 |
| YoYoZ | There's no links or anything | 18:36 |
| YoYoZ | I can't even find a zip for mako | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | because we're doing this in phases :) | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | we're right now waiting for the 4th update of sailfishos which all this is based on | 18:36 |
| YoYoZ | do I need to sign NDA? | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | then we roll out to early adopters | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | i dearly hope not | 18:36 |
| YoYoZ | ohoh | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | an nda is the best way to alienate a porting community :) | 18:37 |
| YoYoZ | So, I need to wait? | 18:37 |
| tbr | given that most of it is on github anyway | 18:37 |
| YoYoZ | IYup, it is | 18:37 |
| YoYoZ | There are just no links | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i'm waiting myself as well for the update to really put this to work | 18:37 |
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| YoYoZ | BTW, right now I have 3 nexus devices on hand | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 18:37 |
| YoYoZ | galaxy nexus, (maguro), nexus 4 (mako), nexus 5 (hammerhead) | 18:37 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:38 |
| YoYoZ | So, just saying I can help debugging | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes, /msg sledges with name and e-mail, why you'd like to participate and what devices you have :) | 18:38 |
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| YoYoZ | just type like that? | 18:40 |
| YoYoZ | Maybe on his mail? | 18:40 |
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| Stskeeps | well, /msg means send sledges a message ;) | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | so open a message window to him and put those details in ;) | 18:40 |
| YoYoZ | I'm not used to IRC :) | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:41 |
| YoYoZ | ./msg [name] [message]? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | yes, or maybe just doubleclick the user name | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | i can recommend you get familiar with it | 18:41 |
| YoYoZ | Oh, ok | 18:41 |
| YoYoZ | I little timae ago I spent a lot of time with elementary-os devs | 18:41 |
| YoYoZ | if you know hat it is | 18:41 |
| YoYoZ | So i know the basic things:) | 18:42 |
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| avivbyo | any news? | 19:19 |
| CuriousAnon | there's so many members, but it's so quiet... | 19:21 |
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| Acce | we're a busy lot ;) | 19:22 |
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| cos- | i'm afraid the update won't be out until tomorrow | 19:29 |
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| artemma | can I not specify just one file per entry in qmake's INSTALLS? | 19:41 |
| artemma | this works fine:qml.files = qml | 19:41 |
| artemma | qml.path = /usr/share/$${TARGET} | 19:41 |
| artemma | this works fine:qml.files = qml | 19:41 |
| artemma | qml.path = /usr/share/$${TARGET} | 19:41 |
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| artemma | this doesn't: | 19:42 |
| artemma | lo4qt_demo_config.files = log4qt.conf | 19:42 |
| artemma | log4qt_demo_config.path = /usr/share/$${TARGET} | 19:42 |
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| artemma | no error message | 19:42 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 19:59 |
| tortoisedoc | Cannot require shared library: 'libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)' | 19:59 |
| tortoisedoc | w0t? | 19:59 |
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| tortoisedoc | how do i unlink from libc? | 20:00 |
| tortoisedoc | ;_; | 20:01 |
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| tortoisedoc | oh fixed | 20:11 |
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| tortoisedoc | grr | 20:13 |
| tortoisedoc | libcontentaction not allowed in harbour?? | 20:13 |
| tortoisedoc | w00t | 20:13 |
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| coderus | what is libcontentaction for? | 20:35 |
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| coderus | pm me for Mitakuuluu beta test | 21:48 |
| squidd | coderus: hello | 21:48 |
| squidd | oh pm | 21:48 |
| squidd | lol | 21:48 |
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| cvp | pm on irc or tmo? :) | 21:55 |
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| coderus | doesnt matter | 21:55 |
| coderus | just cant test network issue myself | 21:56 |
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| vgrade | coderus: what version is your lipstick for | 22:00 |
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| Nightmare__ | which function should be testet? | 22:01 |
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| coderus | vgrade: ah, its for 2.5 | 22:05 |
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| coderus | Nightmare__: wifi - 3g switching | 22:05 |
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| Nightmare__ | great :) | 22:06 |
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| cvp | coderus: looks good by me | 22:09 |
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| Nightmare__ | testing... | 22:10 |
| Nightmare__ | are you changing system settings? becouse now my mobile data is getting deactivated when wlan is active | 22:12 |
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| coderus | sure | 22:13 |
| coderus | and boiling your cup of tea | 22:13 |
| coderus | and please take your dinned in fridge | 22:13 |
| coderus | its done | 22:13 |
| coderus | dinner* | 22:13 |
| Nightmare__ | thx :Df | 22:13 |
| coderus | and here is your newspaper, please take it | 22:13 |
| coderus | ;) | 22:13 |
| Nightmare__ | no thx, i don't read it :D | 22:14 |
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| Nightmare__ | when mitä is connected via mobile data and wifi switched off, it goes offline when wifi is switched on, reconnects after 1 min or so | 22:15 |
| Nightmare__ | switching from wifi to 3g is fine, almost instant | 22:16 |
| cvp | tomorow i will see if i leave my home (without turn off of wlan), if there connect self witht 3G and if i am at work if there connect them too :) | 22:16 |
| Nightmare__ | now i doesn't reconnect at all after switching wifi on, had to do it manually | 22:18 |
| cvp | oh me too.... i try 5 minits with 3G, than i turn on Wlan and the app doesnt reconnect anymore | 22:20 |
| AL13N | i got a weird thing, wifi turns on/off, no channels visible, "iw dev wlan0 scan" fails with 'device busy'... which appears to be wpa_supplicant | 22:20 |
| AL13N | now, i can't remember if wpa_supplicant was installed as default, or if i installed it later | 22:20 |
| AL13N | does anyone know? | 22:20 |
| AL13N | turning off wpa_supplicant removes the warning, but then it seems to hang (possibly due to wpa_supplicant starting up again) | 22:21 |
| Nightmare__ | funny, after that turning wifi off again und mitä still disconnected, mitä reconnects automatically | 22:21 |
| AL13N | "anyone can tell me if wpa_supplicant is installed by default?" | 22:22 |
| squidd | meh, my phone is having problems connecting to 3g again :S | 22:22 |
| Nightmare__ | i don't know how you implemented the reconnect feature, but for me it seems like something like "if connection changed to 3g: reconnect" und somehow it's missing "on connection changed to wifi: reconnect" | 22:26 |
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| Trapped | Hi everyone | 23:39 |
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| Trapped | I wanted to ask a fast and easy question about SailfishOS apps stratum: can they access hardware information such as the mobile network adapter (to benchmark cells, for example)? | 23:40 |
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