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| Sailor7009 | good guys | 06:30 |
| Sailor7009 | good day | 06:30 |
| Sailor7009 | what's a possible issue i can have installing warehouse app | 06:31 |
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| zoldyck | which proccess acts as DNS server on Sailfish? | 06:50 |
| zoldyck | my resolv.conf contains 127.0.0.1 | 06:50 |
| stephg | the clue is also in that file :) connmand | 06:52 |
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| Stskeeps | zoldyck: connmand | 07:08 |
| AL13N_work | zoldyck: one could just do netstat -lnup | grep 53 and see what process takes care of that | 07:11 |
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| zoldyck | I did that | 07:12 |
| zoldyck | somehow sailfish does not show PID | 07:12 |
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| AL13N_work | i don't think that's true, iinm, i had already done this before on my jolla | 07:15 |
| Acce | hmm? netstat -lnup shows PID for me | 07:15 |
| stephg | ditto | 07:15 |
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| zoldyck | see here http://bpaste.net/show/207607/ | 07:15 |
| Acce | of course, the PID is on another line, so that grep 53 will no show it | 07:16 |
| zoldyck | ah, it's not root | 07:16 |
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| zoldyck | sorry )) | 07:16 |
| stephg | hehe | 07:16 |
| Acce | :) np | 07:16 |
| AL13N_work | lol | 07:17 |
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| Nicd- | from the SDK notes: "Oldest Mac OS X supported is now 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion)" | 07:52 |
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| Nicd- | nnooooooo :( | 07:52 |
| Nicd- | goodbye new SDK | 07:52 |
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| cos- | time to upgrade to Linux? | 07:55 |
| Acce | it should be "good bye old Mac" | 07:55 |
| Nicd- | Acce: I don't have money until summer | 07:56 |
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| Nicd- | cos-: arch won't install on this due to the EFI | 07:56 |
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| inffy_ | not even with rEFIND or refit? | 08:01 |
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| TemeV | Nicd-: isn't mavericks free? | 08:09 |
| Nicd- | TemeV: my laptop is too old | 08:10 |
| TemeV | ah, ok | 08:10 |
| Nicd- | inffy_: I tried but didn't manage to do it. I would've had to modify the arch image but decided it was too much work | 08:11 |
| TemeV | virtualboz then | 08:11 |
| Nicd- | TemeV: 10.7 is the latest I can run :/ | 08:11 |
| TemeV | :/ | 08:13 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 08:36 |
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| leszek | hi | 09:33 |
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| SfietKonstantin | hi leszek | 09:46 |
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| Acce | run virtualbox in virtualbox to use SDK = win | 09:53 |
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| Acce | well if the guest system is linux you can liquidate one virtualbox | 09:54 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 10:01 |
| m4g0g | how I can autoset delegate height if one of items in delegate - Label with WrapMode? | 10:01 |
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| Nicd- | m4g0g: use 'contentHeight: labelId.height' | 10:04 |
| Nicd- | so, is it out yet? :) | 10:05 |
| Nicd- | it's 10:00 UTC! | 10:05 |
| jake9xx | it's there all right but ISP has not refreshed cache yet... | 10:07 |
| kaltsi | SDK 1404 is out, start reading ffrom here: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/FileInformation_SDK_1404 | 10:08 |
| TemeV | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DRVRX2em7bE/UFX9ZHWUfPI/AAAAAAAADBU/saMkpDN5S5E/s1600/f5.jpg | 10:08 |
| kaltsi | TemeV: :D | 10:08 |
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| jake9xx | now I see it! | 10:09 |
| jake9xx | yeeah <3 AWS | 10:09 |
| crnd | does that include qt 5.2 now? | 10:10 |
| kaltsi | no | 10:11 |
| kaltsi | the phone doesn't have qt 5.2 yet | 10:11 |
| jake9xx | this is based on jolla release 1.0.5.16 which is 5.1 plus some patches | 10:11 |
| leszek | hmm... what happened to the google site. webcat can't seem to get any links on the result page anymore to open a link in a new window or tab. I hate that | 10:12 |
| Nicd- | ok, I'm going to try the new SDK on 10.6 | 10:12 |
| Nicd- | I'll report my findings | 10:12 |
| kaltsi | Nicd-: it probably won't work.. it's been built in 10.8.5 | 10:13 |
| kaltsi | interested to hear how it fails though | 10:14 |
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| *** kaltsi changes topic to "http://www.sailfishos.org - Alpha Qt5 SDK 1404 out now for linux/mac/win - MD5s: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/FileInformation_SDK_1404 - https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues | For friendly Jolla mobile device community: #jollamobile | SDK together: https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/tags:sdk/page:1/" | 10:15 | |
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| flux | "Debugging with GDB from Qt Creator works with the Emulator and the Device" | 10:18 |
| flux | should be the highlight ;) | 10:18 |
| kaltsi | highlight is that mac installer shows sailfish picture :) | 10:19 |
| kaltsi | also, check debugging in known issues | 10:19 |
| flux | so debugging is implemented via gdbserver running on the device? | 10:19 |
| kaltsi | yea nothing special | 10:20 |
| flux | just compiled gdb properly this time?-) | 10:20 |
| kaltsi | with the previous SDK we had to choose "applicationg logs to qt creator" or "gdb debugging".. that was because of how logging in qtbase was implemented | 10:21 |
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| kaltsi | at that time I made a decision to break gdb functionality in favor of getting the logs | 10:22 |
| jake9xx | there was issue in qt that prevented that to work out of the box in systemd based setups - but qt is also fixed now | 10:24 |
| leszek | I don't like it that upgrading the sdk throws tons of error messages regarding mersdk. Damn it | 10:24 |
| kaltsi | it should throw zero.. what's the issue? | 10:24 |
| jake9xx | leszek: you should shut it down before updating | 10:25 |
| leszek | yeah but there was now chance to stop the sdk when the setup was running already | 10:25 |
| leszek | it did just not respond on any clicks | 10:26 |
| kaltsi | what's your machine linux/mac/win version? | 10:26 |
| leszek | linux | 10:27 |
| Nicd- | hmm, at least new sdkmaintenancetool runs just fine on OS X 10.6 | 10:28 |
| leszek | time re download and reinstall I guess | 10:28 |
| kaltsi | leszek: did the updater request you to stop the virtual machines but you were unable? | 10:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | anyone know how to change thems | 10:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | anyone know how to change themes | 10:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I had installed terminal ui | 10:30 |
| leszek | kaltsi: nope it did not request anything. I had qtcreator running and after clicking on the software sdk update tool I noticed better close the vm and qtcreator and that was not possible | 10:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but now sailfish is a bit messed up | 10:30 |
| kaltsi | leszek: bah it should notice that you have them running.. which linux version and virtualbox version do you have? | 10:31 |
| leszek | kernel 3.10.12 on debian stable with virtualbox 4.3.10 | 10:32 |
| kaltsi | leszek: yep.. well unfortunately it may be necessary for you to reinstall everything in case the update failed to configure the virtual machines properly :( | 10:33 |
| leszek | yeah thats what I am doing currently downloading the new sdk | 10:34 |
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| kaltsi | I'll retest your scenario now | 10:35 |
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| Nicd- | "Error during uninstallation process: | 10:36 |
| Nicd- | Cannot remove directory /Users/nicd/SailfishOS/vmshare: Directory not empty | 10:37 |
| Nicd- | do I just remove that manually? | 10:37 |
| jake9xx | Nicd-: or just ignore? | 10:37 |
| kaltsi | can you ignore it? | 10:37 |
| Nicd- | sure I can, but it might bite me in the ass later | 10:37 |
| Nicd- | let's see if it does | 10:37 |
| kaltsi | you can remove it manually too | 10:38 |
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| stephg | I don't remember off the top of my head what a jolla does when the power is lower than 10% | 10:42 |
| stephg | is it a beep or a tone | 10:42 |
| w00t | complains, a lot | 10:42 |
| w00t | (/me had one complaining for some hours last night, annoying enough to keep waking me up, not annoying enough for me to go turn it off) | 10:43 |
| stephg | yeah I let this n4 go flat and it's charging now whilst on, but all it does is beep every two minutes or so | 10:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | stephg: a tone | 10:44 |
| stephg | ah the same | 10:44 |
| leszek | so now I reinstalled the sdk and qtcreator does not seem to run:Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40802) with this library (version 0x40805) | 10:45 |
| Nicd- | hmm | 10:46 |
| Nicd- | the new SDK starts just fine on 10.6 | 10:46 |
| Nicd- | I lost all my preferences though | 10:46 |
| jake9xx | Nicd-: that's normal, but can you do rpm package and deploy it to device or emulator? | 10:46 |
| kaltsi | leszek: can you pastebin 'ldd ~/SailfishOS/bin/qtcreator' somewhere | 10:48 |
| leszek | kaltsi: http://paste.kde.org/pzybfgijw | 10:49 |
| leszek | for me it seems to look fine. | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | thanks.. that looks good .. | 10:49 |
| jake9xx | leszek: what's your linux distro btw? | 10:50 |
| leszek | jake9xx: debian stable | 10:50 |
| kaltsi | leszek: could you strace it .. it might tell which qt library it doesn't like | 10:50 |
| dr_gogeta86 | you think edit bulid.prop is evil ? | 10:51 |
| Nicd- | jake9xx: I'm able to build and deploy :) | 10:54 |
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| Nicd- | as RPM | 10:54 |
| leszek | kaltsi: strace http://paste.kde.org/psq7iyzvb | 10:55 |
| kaltsi | leszek: what's qtcurve? | 10:56 |
| Nicd- | do you know where the Qt Creator preference files are on OS XX? | 10:56 |
| Nicd- | -X | 10:56 |
| leszek | kaltsi: a theme engine | 10:56 |
| Nicd- | so I could restore my prefs from backup | 10:56 |
| kaltsi | leszek: do you have Qt4 libs installed on your host.. which version? | 10:56 |
| jake9xx | Nicd-: that's good news! | 10:56 |
| Nicd- | jake9xx: indeed it is :) | 10:57 |
| leszek | kaltsi: yes qt 4.8.2 | 10:57 |
| kaltsi | leszek: ok.. well it clearly wants to load one of your host libs there but which one.. grr | 10:57 |
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| kaltsi | leszek: open("/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtDBus.so.4", O_RDONLY) = 7 | 10:59 |
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| kaltsi | yep problem.. we don't ship libQtDbus | 11:00 |
| kaltsi | need to make new installers.. /fffuu | 11:00 |
| leszek | ok | 11:00 |
| locusf | lol really? | 11:00 |
| leszek | bbl then | 11:01 |
| kaltsi | it works if you don't have KDE :P | 11:01 |
| leszek | xD | 11:02 |
| kaltsi | it also wants to open lots of libkde* stuff | 11:03 |
| leszek | yeah I guess for the kde open and save dialog and the theming stuff | 11:04 |
| leszek | this worked in the last sdk version without a problem | 11:04 |
| jake9xx | true, we have reworked _a lot_ but our testing did reveal this.. need to work on that part too | 11:05 |
| simbrown | leszek: I have the same error on Ubuntu 12.04 | 11:09 |
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| kaltsi | simbrown: is it ubuntu or kubuntu? | 11:10 |
| simbrown | kaltsi: kubuntu | 11:10 |
| kaltsi | yep it's related to KDE | 11:10 |
| kaltsi | I'll need to set up a KDE host and rebuild qt creator for linux to test it | 11:10 |
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| kaltsi | I think I just need to rebuild Qt without dbus support | 11:28 |
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| kaltsi | hmm no -with- dbus | 11:38 |
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| leszek | kaltsi: the old sdk shipped a libqtdbus version why can't the new sdk do the same ? | 12:09 |
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| kaltsi | leszek: it will.. it was a mistake, no libdus-devel in build environment :p | 12:11 |
| leszek | ah ok :) | 12:11 |
| kaltsi | I'm installing kubuntu now to test if that works now | 12:12 |
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| sarkh | Is there some reason why the linux versions are in "trash" http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/installers/1404/trash/ and therefore the links in: https://sailfishos.org/index.html and https://sailfishos.org/wiki/FileInformation_SDK_1404 are broken? And https://sailfishos.org/develop.html has oldish links... | 12:40 |
| ln- | read the mailing list | 12:41 |
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| jake9xx | sarkh: there is - you should not poke around at trash. I'll move them out from there. | 12:43 |
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| sarkh | ok | 12:44 |
| kaltsi | leszek: ok I verified that it works now for me.. will bake new installer for linux | 12:44 |
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| leszek | kaltsi: nice ;) | 12:46 |
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| coderus | i'm on kde and can test it too :) | 12:49 |
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| kaltsi | it takes about 1 - 1.5 hrs to get it all built starting from qt4 | 12:53 |
| kaltsi | but it's building now | 12:53 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: check mailling lists about file permissions problem | 12:56 |
| coderus | btw, why not qt5? | 12:56 |
| coderus | my system working on top qt5.2 already, just some applications are still qt4 :D | 12:57 |
| jake9xx | coderus: we took the linux installers and their update repos off the shelf - new files will be uploaded as soon as possible today. | 12:57 |
| jake9xx | coderus: we ran into a showstopper with KDE | 12:57 |
| coderus | jake9xx: i see | 12:57 |
| coderus | its why i'm asking :) | 12:57 |
| coderus | jake9xx: btw, whlie it compiling, can you check irc pm? :) | 12:58 |
| kaltsi | hmm permission prob | 12:58 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | SfietKonstantin: u created a monster | 13:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbwb9B3aPUQ | 13:12 |
| jake9xx | sarkh: good catch on the url thingy, we'll refresh aws | 13:13 |
| jake9xx | sarkh: can you try to refresh? | 13:14 |
| gabriel9|work | The inferior stopped because it received a signal from the Operating System. | 13:14 |
| gabriel9|work | when using debug | 13:15 |
| gabriel9|work | wth | 13:15 |
| Turski | jake9xx: 404 on linux downloads | 13:15 |
| jake9xx | Turski: tiedän, kts mailing list | 13:15 |
| jake9xx | KDE iski puukkoa korvan taakse | 13:15 |
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| Turski | ai O_o | 13:15 |
| jake9xx | Turski: oops, wrong ch -> so, check mailing list | 13:15 |
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| Turski | hm, good idea to join the list... | 13:18 |
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| sarkh | jake9xx: yep, urls are correct now | 13:26 |
| jake9xx | sarkh: it takes some time for AWS to update caches | 13:27 |
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| m4g0g | hm. I set height: contentItem.childrenRect.height in my delegate but it calculate height wrong | 13:42 |
| m4g0g | may be problem in label with rich text and word wrap? | 13:43 |
| meegobit | nice patches | 13:43 |
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| meegobit | are they like plugins anyone can contribute? Because that would be such an improvement to the current status quo | 13:44 |
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| Nicd- | m4g0g: did you try 'contentHeight: labelId.height'? | 13:47 |
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| m4g0g | Nicd-: I have label ana image in delegate | 13:49 |
| m4g0g | the problem borns when I add topMargin to label | 13:50 |
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| Nicd- | m4g0g: what kind of problem? did you add topMargin to contentHeight too? | 13:51 |
| Acce | if you want margin between delegates, why not use the spacing property? | 13:53 |
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| stephg_j | off the topof anyones heads doyou know how to do multiple windows with the silica fingerterm? | 14:09 |
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| m4g0g | for getting c+ +model row count in qml I should create Q_PROPERTY for count ? | 14:09 |
| TheBootroo_work | m4g0g: that would be nice | 14:10 |
| TheBootroo_work | m4g0g: and update that property on each append/remove/clear operation | 14:10 |
| m4g0g | fuck | 14:10 |
| TheBootroo_work | so that it changes internal counter and triggers QML notifier | 14:10 |
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| TheBootroo_work | to update property | 14:11 |
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| m4g0g | is there more easy way? | 14:11 |
| TheBootroo_work | doing QML property is pointless if not properly updated | 14:11 |
| TheBootroo_work | that REALLY easy | 14:11 |
| TheBootroo_work | just add a private int m_counter; | 14:11 |
| TheBootroo_work | then a protected method called : | 14:11 |
| TheBootroo_work | void updateCounter () { if (m_counter != m_itemsList.size ()) { m_counter = m_itemsList.size (); emit countChanged (m_counter); }} | 14:12 |
| TheBootroo_work | obviously you need to declare signal void countChanged (int arg) | 14:12 |
| m4g0g | TheBootroo_work: i should create 2 connections for rowsInserted and rowsRemoved because I use QStandardItemModel | 14:12 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/blob/master/persecute2/src/contactsmodel.h | 14:13 |
| TheBootroo_work | and also a getter : int getCount () const { return m_counter; } | 14:13 |
| coderus | i'm using own c++ models everywhere | 14:13 |
| TheBootroo_work | m4g0g: well i never use that class, i created my own C++ subclasses of QAbstractListmodel, much more pratical for use with QML : | 14:13 |
| TheBootroo_work | https://gitorious.org/qt-tricks/qt-tricks/source/dfa5ed442c2ace565a002ae949872f71cdefef89:src | 14:14 |
| TheBootroo_work | look at QQmlObjectListModel and QQmlVariantListModel classes | 14:14 |
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| TheBootroo_work | well, the second one doesn't have property for count | 14:14 |
| TheBootroo_work | so look simply at QQmlObjectListModel | 14:15 |
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| TheBootroo_work | i used these models in all my Sailfish apps | 14:15 |
| TheBootroo_work | work fine so far | 14:16 |
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| somejollaguy | Hi@all! As according to together.jolla.com on carddav, BT PBAP is being worked on, I would like to ask whether there is anything done towards SAP (Sim Access Protocol)? If no, I would like to look into it, but I need some pointers where to start from. (Have a Jolla since January, which is currently useless due to those functions missing). | 14:19 |
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| Aard | somejollaguy: it's not being worked on, and it's very low priority for us currently (not that many users of that feature). we'll do it at some point _after_ we moved to bluez5 | 14:24 |
| Aard | somejollaguy: if you want to help, get involved in ofono and bluez5, and check what's missing in those two projects to support it + talk to me what you're doing so we can coordinate | 14:25 |
| Nicd- | hey TheBootroo_work, sorry for not looking at the TS file yet. I'll try to do it this week | 14:25 |
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| somejollaguy | Aard: would be very nice to get some progress there - as I don't want to fiddle out the SIM card everytime I enter my car ;) | 14:28 |
| Aard | somejollaguy: it'll take a few months for the bluez5 switch to be release-ready, plus then later work on rsap, so it'll be some time. it doesn't make any sense for us to spend time to get it working with bluez4 | 14:30 |
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| somejollaguy | Aard: on wiki Maemo is listed as supporting SAP - I never tried my N900 with that back then - but if that is correct, maybe there would be some code we could take over from Maemo/MeeGo? | 14:32 |
| Aard | somejollaguy: might be possible for bluez-side, though still leaves ofono open -- n900 used a different cellular stack | 14:33 |
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| somejollaguy | Aard: my problem is: I have more or less no idea how all that interacts and where to start looking. Is SAP 'just' a software protocol, or does it also involve some kind of driver-side? That's why I hoped to get some starting info here. | 14:35 |
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| Aard | somejollaguy: the two components I mentioned above, ofono doing the interaction with the sim, and bluez for the bluetooth part | 14:39 |
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| somejollaguy | Aard: Ok - thanks alot so far! Then I will have a closer look at those. | 14:41 |
| Aard | somejollaguy: additionally, we take donations for cars capable of rsap. I didn't spot one amongst my colleagues yet :p | 14:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | donate me a wag | 14:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and i debug it | 14:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-D | 14:44 |
| somejollaguy | Aard: :D e.g. Audi A6 4G needs it (otherwise no traffic data) | 14:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | also 3g / hdspa | 14:46 |
| somejollaguy | so currently I'm still stucked with my Samsung Note 1.. :( But without contacts (carddav) and car-support (PBAP / SAP) a phone for me is not of much use :( | 14:46 |
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| Aard | somejollaguy: I just found this one, but no idea if anything happened there. http://elinux.org/Implement_the_Bluetooth_Sim_Access_Profile%28SAP%29_Client_Role | 14:47 |
| m4g0g | why when I set for one item in delegate anchors.verticalCenterIn: parent.verticalCenter I get Binding loop detected for property "height" ? | 14:47 |
| m4g0g | for delegate height I use contentItem.childrenRect.height | 14:47 |
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| Aard | somejollaguy: pbap will come soon, carddav is another thing we didn't start yet (but has higher priority than rsap). that'd be something community could easily help, though | 14:50 |
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| somejollaguy | Aard: I had expected that carddav is not that big of a deal when caldav is working? | 14:52 |
| Aard | it shouldn't be too hard | 14:53 |
| Aard | but still needs to be worked on | 14:53 |
| m4g0g | http://codepad.org/FoebpDjU | 14:53 |
| somejollaguy | so it's also not being worked on, yet? | 14:53 |
| m4g0g | sorry | 14:53 |
| Aard | somejollaguy: no, not started. you'll see things happening on github when work there starts, just like caldav that'll be in the open from the beginning | 14:54 |
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| Titan_Arum | will there be APN settings in the next nexus4 release? | 14:55 |
| somejollaguy | Aard: mmh.. as carddav is even more important, maybe I should have a look at that first (anyway - whom to call, if I don't have any contacts in my phone? ;)) | 14:55 |
| stephg | Titan_Arum, there were in the last? how do you mean? mobile data works iirc? | 14:57 |
| somejollaguy | Aard: so this here is the "official" repo for caldav? https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugin-caldav | 14:57 |
| Aard | yes | 14:58 |
| Aard | and we have the #sync channel for that | 14:58 |
| kaltsi | coderus et all.. Linux installers for SDK 1404 updated now, should work in KDE too | 14:58 |
| kaltsi | if you happened to install linux SDK already, please reinstall :O | 14:59 |
| somejollaguy | ah ok - then I will peek at that code (as I think a carddav impl should be quite analog to it) | 14:59 |
| somejollaguy | but I have to do something, as my wife already tries to force me to sell my Jolla, as it sits unused on my table since my birthday in Jan. ;) | 14:59 |
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| Aard | does she need rsap as well? ;) | 15:00 |
| somejollaguy | no - she's using her Note 1 - which does the job ;) | 15:01 |
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| tanghus | Aard: #sailfishos-sync or just #sync? I assumed you meant irc? :) | 15:04 |
| Aard | just #sync, in freenode | 15:04 |
| tanghus | k, thx | 15:05 |
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| somejollaguy | Aard: ok thanks for all that info. I'll rename myself to | 15:12 |
| sender23 | <- this and keep lurking... | 15:12 |
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| TheBootroo_work | Nicd-: np | 15:16 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: no i didnt, thank you :) | 15:19 |
| coderus | is there are way to reset camera state after application destruction without setting camera state to unloaded? | 15:20 |
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| coderus | SDK asked me to remove sdk before installing...again... | 15:21 |
| coderus | why there are no update way? | 15:22 |
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| coderus | i'll stay with 1312 for now then | 15:22 |
| coderus | cant remove sdk and setup everything again | 15:23 |
| kaltsi | coderus: well that's the deal unfortunately until we get out of alpha.. the update method will anyways update all components | 15:24 |
| coderus | it should at least restore all installed packages automatically | 15:26 |
| kaltsi | that it will never do | 15:26 |
| coderus | well, i mean reinstall all packages available | 15:26 |
| coderus | not using old packages :) | 15:26 |
| coderus | get list of packages | 15:26 |
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| coderus | and reinstall it after removing everything and putting all new :D | 15:27 |
| kaltsi | you can now install multiple packages to targets too.. if that helps | 15:27 |
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| kaltsi | from the web view but you have probably not used it anyways | 15:27 |
| coderus | :D | 15:27 |
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| coderus | well, i just had A LOT of debug packages installed | 15:28 |
| kaltsi | ok.. well you could keep a list of them yourself in a file and then just copy paste them back :) | 15:28 |
| coderus | but to be honest i recently switched to device debugging, so my A LOT of debug packages now installed to phone | 15:29 |
| coderus | its not easy enough, its like "24954378543858347578236423747239648723789423" | 15:30 |
| coderus | :D | 15:30 |
| coderus | x 200 times | 15:30 |
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| kaltsi | it's a memory excersise :) | 15:30 |
| coderus | i didnt saved it, i just parsed gdb output and grabbed all debug packages id it suggested to install | 15:31 |
| coderus | well, i dont need it at the moment | 15:31 |
| coderus | the only i need is ability to not install emulator vm and disable build vm checkings before building, i moved build environment to local chroot | 15:32 |
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| Skorpy | hey, does ApplicationWindow have a method for closing it? I know ther is deactivate() but I want to close it completely. | 15:53 |
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| Acce | Skorpy: try Qt.quit()? | 15:56 |
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| Acce | haven't tested but that's how it goes in a desktop app | 15:56 |
| Skorpy | hmmm... closed the whole lipstick. :P | 15:57 |
| Skorpy | (I'm tweaking events view) | 15:58 |
| Skorpy | trying* | 15:58 |
| faenil | lol | 15:58 |
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| Skorpy | well, atleast now I have a quick way to restart lipstick. | 15:58 |
| Skorpy | quicker* | 15:58 |
| Acce | :P | 16:00 |
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| coderus | Skorpy: you have ApplicationWindow inside lipstick? wrong way. | 16:00 |
| Skorpy | coderus: the EventsView is a ApplicationWindow | 16:00 |
| coderus | really? wow :D | 16:01 |
| coderus | well, you should check how lipstick opening it and closing and do the same | 16:02 |
| coderus | with 1404 SDK i need 8 attempts to add device. | 16:02 |
| Skorpy | ah, thanks. didn't think of that | 16:02 |
| coderus | its failing while testing device password twice | 16:02 |
| coderus | then failed while deploying ssh keys | 16:03 |
| coderus | then failed while checking ports | 16:03 |
| kaltsi | what timeout value do you use? | 16:03 |
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| coderus | i didnt checked it | 16:04 |
| coderus | i think it was default 2s | 16:04 |
| kaltsi | it's default 2s yep, if you try to increase that it might be more reliable, but nothing should have changed in that functionality | 16:04 |
| coderus | well, i just succeded after 8th attempts :D | 16:04 |
| cobu | i | 16:06 |
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| kaltsi | coderus: hehe :P | 16:08 |
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| Skorpy | quick noobie question. I have a patch for patchmanager and I want to package it to a RPM. do I do it with the sdk or something? :P | 17:34 |
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| Skorpy | ah, found a guide how to do it on the phone. neat. enough for me. | 17:37 |
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| Ken-Young | Is it possible to put SailfishOS on a Nokia N950? If so, does anyone know of a web page that describes how to do that? | 17:40 |
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| coderus | how can i get current locale clock settings 12h or 24h? | 18:04 |
| tbr | shouldn't that just be an environment variable? | 18:04 |
| faenil | coderus, QDateTime::currentDateTime() ? | 18:05 |
| faenil | or you only need 12/24 setting? I didn't understand | 18:05 |
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| coderus | Ken-Young: its discussed here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761 | 18:05 |
| coderus | faenil: yes i need to know if current locale 12h or 24h | 18:05 |
| Ken-Young | coderus, Thanks! | 18:05 |
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| faenil | mm | 18:06 |
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| faenil | coderus, https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtbase/source/efa7a5a659696901fddc8a93f870d1b83473dc64:src/corelib/tools/qlocale_unix.cpp#L77-82 | 18:14 |
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| coderus | faenil: ? | 18:25 |
| faenil | coderus, that's the implementation for unix | 18:26 |
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| faenil | i.e. try QLocal::timeFormat | 18:26 |
| faenil | maybe it holds some info about 12/24 | 18:26 |
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| coderus | what locales have 12h format? | 18:27 |
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| faenil | I don't know | 18:28 |
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| coderus | anyone? :) | 18:30 |
| coderus | oh, it should be at least England :) | 18:31 |
| faenil | ehehe yeah | 18:31 |
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| rubdos | So, as my N9 is failing, I'll have to order a Jolla... What do you think, is it worth it? | 18:43 |
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| Stskeeps | understand you might get a biased opinion here ;) | 18:43 |
| cos- | users have been very satisfied after the first non-beta version was released | 18:44 |
| cos- | at least a lot of ppl i know have started using it as their primary phone | 18:44 |
| Nicd- | rubdos: jolla isn't perfect and there's a long way to go, but until the android images are released and easy to install, a jolla would be my only choice | 18:45 |
| Morpog_PC__ | rubdos, if you love your N9, you will like your Jolla. And with every update Jolla puts out you will start to like it a bit more till hopefully you fall in love again :D | 18:45 |
| rubdos | Stskeeps, i do | 18:45 |
| Nicd- | that's my honest opinion | 18:45 |
| rubdos | Nicd-, okay | 18:45 |
| Yaniel | I agree with Nicd- | 18:45 |
| jake9xx | Nicd-: +1 | 18:46 |
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| rubdos | Morpog_PC__, I do love my N9 and I will have to switch with a lot of pain in the heart ;), but it's buggy and today, I lost all my contacts and mesages | 18:46 |
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| Yaniel | rubdos: I never had a N9 but I've been using my Jolla as my main phone since I got it | 18:47 |
| rubdos | so, what are the main drawbacks you guys notice and; is it the software's or hardware's fault? | 18:48 |
| rubdos | Yaniel, and is it a little stable? | 18:48 |
| Yaniel | I boot about once a week these days I think | 18:48 |
| Nicd- | I don't boot unless for updates anymore | 18:48 |
| Yaniel | it shuts down more because I forget to connect the charger | 18:49 |
| Yaniel | than beccause of problems | 18:49 |
| coderus | faenil: checked, no difference :D | 18:50 |
| coderus | seend Sailfish not supporting AM/PM locale detection/change | 18:50 |
| rubdos | Yaniel, oof, because I shut down more because of problems than because of getting uncharged :P | 18:50 |
| faenil | coderus, no diff of what | 18:50 |
| coderus | time format | 18:50 |
| coderus | and also locale-aware time format method doesnt return am/pm in text string | 18:50 |
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| faenil | okay | 18:51 |
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| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/39826/question-about-ampm-time-formal/ | 18:54 |
| matrixx | is there any platform color (in Theme perhaps) which should be used when we want to highlight some text which is wrong? E.g. I have a TimePickerDialog and label which shows the selected time, but if user selects time which is in the future I want to highlight the time text with some kind of "this is wrong" color | 18:54 |
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| coderus | matrixx: there is no such color. you can use Label acceptableInput property and it should be highlighted automatically | 18:55 |
| ejjoman | good evening :) | 18:56 |
| matrixx | coderus: hmm, it's actually ValueButton where I'm printing the value, does it have the same property? | 18:57 |
| coderus | ejjoman: evening good enough | 18:58 |
| coderus | i cant say same aboutmorning and middle, but evening is good enough for me | 18:58 |
| coderus | matrixx: ah sorry, acceptable input is path of text input fields, not labels | 18:59 |
| ejjoman | coderus: okay, let it just be an 'evening' :) | 19:00 |
| matrixx | coderus: ok, maybe I could pick the color/shade used in textfields when non-acceptable input is present and use that as valueColor in ValueButton | 19:00 |
| matrixx | though I dislike hardcoded things like this, but haven't figured out anything more wise yet | 19:01 |
| matrixx | I think the acceptableInput would make a great property for ValueButton since often it also shows user inserted value | 19:02 |
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| matrixx | though not similarly than in textedit fields, but proxied like in my case where I open the TimePickerDialog from that ValueButton | 19:03 |
| coderus | matrixx: system using "#ff4d4d" for error highlight | 19:04 |
| coderus | use it :) | 19:04 |
| matrixx | coderus: thanks, I'll use that | 19:05 |
| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/39830/add-error-highlight-color-to-theme/ | 19:09 |
| matrixx | coderus: cool, thanks! | 19:10 |
| matrixx | voted ;) | 19:11 |
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| matrixx | coderus: what I noticed that the error color does not stand out from my ambience | 19:43 |
| kengu | ok. the sdk seems to work. myfirstapp did run on simulator and also it did run on device. now I just need to create some real functionality (: | 19:44 |
| matrixx | so it should be changing according to ambience indeed. My ambience is lime green and I can barely see what are the numbers written on that red error color, and I'm not even red-green color blind | 19:45 |
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| coderus | matrixx: its why i started tjc :) | 19:55 |
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| coderus | jolla-contacts: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/qt5/qml/harbour/mitakuuluu2/sharecontacts/libsharecontacts.so: undefined symbol: _ZN15QDBusConnection10sessionBusEv | 20:05 |
| coderus | WTF!? | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | shared objects are fun | 20:06 |
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| smyows | is sailfishos wip for nokia n9? | 20:07 |
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| Skorpy | yay! first upload to openrepos! :3 probably the first package ever I have created myself and shared :P | 20:22 |
| Skorpy | https://openrepos.net/content/sevanteri/patchmanager-eventview-controls | 20:22 |
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| TemeV | looks nice | 20:32 |
| Acce | Skorpy: great :) | 20:33 |
| TemeV | I'm still a bit afraid of installing patch manager, thoug... | 20:33 |
| Acce | I'm currently working on an app to create, sort and run/stop shell scripts and commands | 20:33 |
| Acce | hopefully at some point I'll make a patch so you can have a "command line" in events view | 20:33 |
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| TemeV | that would be quite neat :) | 20:34 |
| Acce | maybe Skropys work will be nice for reference when I'll get there :) | 20:34 |
| Acce | Skorpy* sorry | 20:35 |
| Acce | TemeV: if you want to check the current state of the app, it's at https://github.com/Acce0ss/shellex | 20:35 |
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| TemeV | Acce, ok, maybe I'll take a look when I found a suitable time slot :) | 20:39 |
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| TemeV | I just started to learn about qt and programming to sailfish, so reading other peoples' sources is quite useful | 20:41 |
| TemeV | :) | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | just reported a bug in Twitter image sharing :) | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | https://together.jolla.com/question/39842/bug-sharing-an-image-to-twitter-does-not-validate-message-length/ | 20:41 |
| M4rtinK | votes welcome! :) | 20:41 |
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| vgrade | Aard: hi | 20:56 |
| vgrade | Aard: you mentioned some work around auto dependency graphs out of OBS in SFOS meeting | 20:57 |
| vgrade | I would be interested in findong outa bit more about that | 20:58 |
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| artemma | Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: testlib | 21:46 |
| artemma | hmm.. what do I PkgConfigBR in .yaml/.spec to fetch testlib? | 21:47 |
| artemma | Qt5QuickTest isn't good enough. I guess it depends on some core testlib package | 21:47 |
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| artemma | tried qt5-qttest-devel | 21:49 |
| artemma | No provider of 'pkgconfig(qt5-qttest-devel)' found. | 21:50 |
| * artemma needs to find and bookmark some mer packages catalog with explanations.. | 21:50 | |
| special | qt5-qttest-devel is the name of the package, not the pkgconfig file | 21:50 |
| special | the pkgconfig name follows the same pattern as the other qt5 packages: Qt5Test | 21:50 |
| artemma | interestingly Qt5Test helped and.. started installign qt-qtest-devel | 21:51 |
| artemma | ah, ok, thanks :) | 21:51 |
| artemma | did you guys see that c++ and qml debugging actually do work in the new SDK! In emulator at least | 21:52 |
| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/39849/sharing-contact-with-non-ascii-name-losing-its-name/ | 21:53 |
| coderus | vote pleaes | 21:54 |
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| artemma | done | 21:58 |
| coderus | thanks :) | 21:59 |
| artemma | np | 21:59 |
| artemma | useful for me too :) | 21:59 |
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| artemma | QQmlImportDatabase::resolvePlugin: Could not resolve plugin "danemothumbnailer" in "/usr/share/harbour-dailyambience/lib/harbour/dailyambience/org/nemomobile/thumbnailer" | 22:03 |
| artemma | I declare plugin somehow wrongly.. I wonder how I start debugging it.. | 22:03 |
| artemma | breakpoints in plugin don't get hit | 22:04 |
| * artemma went to google for plugin creation howtos | 22:06 | |
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| gabriel9 | is there some component in sailfish for rating | 22:23 |
| gabriel9 | like starts | 22:23 |
| gabriel9 | or anthing | 22:23 |
| gabriel9 | on N9 we had those | 22:23 |
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| artemma | stupid me. Was trying to hard to understand why the heck nemothumbnailer plugin clone isn't registered and.. I myself added explicit early return statemements a couple of days ago when tracing something else | 23:13 |
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