| sledges | looks like latest warehouse version performs a stricter check on repos, many of our #sailfishos-porters are using warehouse on non-jolla devices (due to jolla store not avail), and started experiencing problems | 00:00 |
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| sledges | could you help looking into that? | 00:00 |
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| sledges | night good! | 00:31 |
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| BasilSemuonov__ | sledges, thats not latest warehouse version, but u9 and packagekit update. i'm aware about interface freezes, but havent looked into it yet. | 08:05 |
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| sledges | BasilSemuonov__: hi, those devices are running u8 though | 08:41 |
| BasilSemuonov__ | sledges, problems are 'not responding' message for application? version used is 0.3-28+ ? | 08:43 |
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| sledges | BasilSemuonov__: "Problem with installing" on the notifications. warehouse updated yesterday (don't know version number). when it's launched as root - everything works | 08:44 |
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| sledges | (as it's also possible to do e.g. pkcon install harbour-friends , from 'devel-su -p' shell or root shell) | 08:45 |
| sledges | but that's secondary problem | 08:45 |
| sledges | primary problem is that we have repos which don't exist (adaptation0 and store). we have to ssu rr them for warehouse to update. i quite believe this worked previously, but i guess this ball won't be in your court:) | 08:46 |
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| BasilSemuonov__ | sledges, latest warehouse change was to perform per-repository update instead of full update of all repositories, and application installation is equal to 'pkcon install packagename' runned as nemouser | 08:47 |
| sledges | well 'pkcon install packagename' works only from a privileged shell | 08:48 |
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| sledges | since recently (iirc since u8) | 08:50 |
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| BasilSemuonov__ | to make it work, warehouse installs policy, that allows execution from nemo shell (no auth error) | 08:51 |
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| BasilSemuonov__ | if pkcon install from nemo user does not work, something changed within policies, or that policy did not applied | 08:51 |
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| sledges | quite probably | 08:52 |
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| sledges | how is the policy acquired? | 08:52 |
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| BasilSemuonov__ | installed by warehouse, {_sharedstatedir}/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/50-net.openrepos.warehouse-packagekit.pkla | 08:52 |
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| sledges | BasilSemuonov__: but that policy is only per-app (for warehouse), so pkcon install will continue not to work from a simple user shell? | 09:00 |
| BasilSemuonov__ | it allows everybody to use package kit dbus, since there were no way to diff applications (js scriplets are not supported) | 09:00 |
| sledges | ok, i'll install warehouse on jolla, and then on nexus4, to compare | 09:01 |
| sledges | thanks for now! | 09:02 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 09:05 |
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| coderus | jusa_: ping? | 09:17 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: pong | 09:24 |
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| coderus | jusa_: you responsive for pulseaudio call recording, right? | 09:51 |
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| coderus | jusa_: i added my comment here: https://github.com/mer-hybris/pulseaudio-modules-droid/pull/14#issuecomment-61063337 | 09:52 |
| coderus | jusa_: now with uitukka we can finally test this feature, and headphones voice not recorded D: | 09:52 |
| jusa_ | coderus: is something recorded anyway? or is it total silence? | 09:53 |
| coderus | jusa_: incoming voice is total silence, only microphone is recorded when headphones connected. | 09:54 |
| coderus | with earphone everything recorded correctly | 09:54 |
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| jusa_ | hm.. strange.. I just tested myself, and recording both uplink and downlink with headphones worked | 09:54 |
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| jusa_ | but second time I tried there was strange issue where call audio was lost from headphones when starting the recording (didn't check what was recorded this time though) | 09:55 |
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| jusa_ | coderus: could you do "pactl list" during the voice call record with headphones, and put to pastebin? | 09:55 |
| coderus | sure, just second | 09:56 |
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| jusa_ | I'll look into that later.. | 09:58 |
| coderus | jusa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8744869 < not recording, no headphones | 09:58 |
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| coderus | jusa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8744870 < recording, no headphones | 09:58 |
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| coderus | jusa_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8744872 < recording, with headphones | 09:58 |
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| coderus | jusa_: thanks :) | 09:59 |
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| coderus | jusa_: btw, my headphones are just headphones, not headset | 10:00 |
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| danielbeck_ | Hello. I submitted an app in jolla harbour 9 days ago for approval. The QA process should lasts 48 hours. Is it normal that approval lasts that long (or was the app somehow forgotten?) | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | did you mail developer care? | 10:07 |
| danielbeck_ | No. | 10:08 |
| danielbeck_ | I mail them. thanks. | 10:09 |
| fmunozs | there's going to be a talk today about the jolla phone at ekoparty argentina | 10:11 |
| fmunozs | (I guess you guys knew it) | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | nice, by who? | 10:11 |
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| Acce | danielbeck_: the 48 hours isn't based on any real statistics or promises but is just dummy data afaik.. Although they usually are faster | 10:12 |
| fmunozs | V. MClain - C. Weedon - D. Suarez | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok, don't know the names | 10:12 |
| fmunozs | http://www.ekoparty.org/charlas-2014.php?a=2014&c=cyan&m=587 | 10:12 |
| fmunozs | Matasano security | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: http://www.ekoparty.org/charlas-2014.php?a=2014&c=cyan&m=587 | 10:13 |
| danielbeck_ | Acce: In that case, 9 days looks really strange. I mail them and ask about the state of the QA. | 10:13 |
| Acce | there was something about the submitting to harbour since most users now have u8 and some have u9, there is a post in the mailing list | 10:13 |
| Aard | danielbeck_: a) the u9 thing Acce mentioned b) we're currently quite busy | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | fmunozs: let me know if slides come online | 10:15 |
| SK_work | fmunozs: interested by the slides too | 10:15 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: they've been in contact with us before | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: yeah, i know | 10:15 |
| danielbeck_ | Aard & Acce ah, ok. In that case I wait :-) | 10:15 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:21 |
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| Hartzi | sigh. Still no response from whatsapp support | 12:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | maybe thats because you're using mitakuuluu? | 12:49 |
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| sledges | show some RTs to the author \o/ https://twitter.com/dpurgin/status/527509583946711041 | 12:59 |
| flux | hey wasn't that supposed to be impossible? | 12:59 |
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| flux | due to all the voice control magic being in the binary blob | 13:00 |
| flux | or does it record only what the jolla end of the cal says? | 13:00 |
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| flux | doesn't suggest anything like that. I wonder how it works then, or was the previous information incorrect.. | 13:01 |
| flux | apparently it can all be done with pulseaudio. nice work dpurgin! | 13:02 |
| sledges | flux: yes, he just proved that call recording can be done in a linuxy phone! \o/ | 13:03 |
| sledges | big kudos also go to jusa_ ;) | 13:03 |
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| jusa_ | yay :) | 13:05 |
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| jusa_ | see above coderus mentioned a bug.. I'll have to take a look soonish.. | 13:06 |
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| sledges | yes, that's also mentioned in https://github.com/dpurgin/harbour-callrecorder/blob/master/README.md | 13:10 |
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| Nicd- | flux: it was impossible before U9 afaik | 13:12 |
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| flux | was the android driver blob updated? because I thought that was the key issue. | 13:14 |
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| flux | it'd be cool to have it automatically encrypt and send the clips somewhere (say, to my inbox). but now as it is open source the possibilities are endless :) | 13:16 |
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| flux | or for example "save only calls from unlisted or unknown phone numbers" option could be useful for folks that only want to save telemarketing calls. | 13:16 |
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| Nicd- | well, it's trange, rainisto said it's not possible since the audio never goes to pulseaudio | 13:17 |
| Nicd- | but now we have a call recorder using pulseaudio | 13:17 |
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| Nicd- | lots of comments here before different answers: https://together.jolla.com/question/5008/call-recording-app/ | 13:17 |
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| Nicd- | "@Robin, the main work is done by Jolla audio guys, it allows us to access the other party's audio on the higher level." -- so apparently Jolla was able to tap into the call audio somehow | 13:18 |
| flux | "It means, that it will most likely never happen in Jolla1 as telephony routing happens deep inside android adaptation blackbox which we have no access to modify." has changed since then I suppose. | 13:19 |
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| obsed | is the audio controlled by the baseband? | 13:24 |
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| tadzik | pombo breaker! | 14:17 |
| ernesti | :D | 14:18 |
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| randomActOfdevel | hello everybody | 15:49 |
| randomActOfdevel | Would somebody know how I'd get the messaging app in the jolla emulator? | 15:50 |
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| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: ever tried zypper in jolla-messages ? | 16:04 |
| stephg | sb n | 16:04 |
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| randomActOfdevel | SK_work: thank you, that worked(I'm actually don't have much experience with the jolla, so I didn't know of this before) | 16:22 |
| randomActOfdevel | How would I now add account support? | 16:23 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: hum ... | 16:23 |
| SK_work | I have to say, first | 16:23 |
| SK_work | good luck on the emulator | 16:23 |
| SK_work | then, try to install everything accounts related | 16:23 |
| SK_work | zypper se account | 16:23 |
| randomActOfdevel | Haha why that? (On a sidenote: I do own a jolla, but never really used zypper tools expect for getting warehouse I guess) | 16:25 |
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| randomActOfdevel | is wildcard expansion supported by zypper? | 16:25 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm working on getting a full system emul going but something is breaking bad | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw | 16:26 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: it should | 16:26 |
| randomActOfdevel | ok wildcard expansion works | 16:26 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: hum ? | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | SK_work: as in, have entire sailfish in sdk emulator | 16:27 |
| randomActOfdevel | However I then run into this problem: Problem: nothing provides nemo-qml-plugin-email-qt5 >= 0.1.34 needed by jolla-settings-accounts-extensions-email-0.1.107.10-10.46.2.jolla.i486 | 16:27 |
| randomActOfdevel | Stskeeps: Great idea! | 16:28 |
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| SK_work | Stskeeps: isn't most SFOS in SDK emulator already ? | 16:29 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: :/ | 16:29 |
| SK_work | do'nt install jolla-settings-accounts-extensions-email | 16:29 |
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| SK_work | as I guess you don't need it to send /instant/ messages | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | SK_work: no, it's pretty much just homescreen | 16:30 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: I have seen some packages being included in the emu actually, but it is good news if you works on it :) | 16:30 |
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| randomActOfdevel | it worked now, thank you :) | 16:34 |
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| randomActOfdevel | umm... I guess messing around with sociald won't be as easy as downloading source and run it with sdk? | 16:43 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: sociald ? | 16:44 |
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| SK_work | out of curiosity what are yuoo trying to do ? :) | 16:44 |
| SK_work | I guess it will be as easy as to do this | 16:44 |
| randomActOfdevel | cool :) | 16:44 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: what do you want to implement ? :) | 16:45 |
| randomActOfdevel | I want to try to develop a telegram plugin as learning experience | 16:45 |
| randomActOfdevel | and because I prefer native apps | 16:45 |
| randomActOfdevel | and I really love the idea of a messaging hub | 16:45 |
| randomActOfdevel | xD | 16:46 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: ha | 16:46 |
| SK_work | good | 16:46 |
| SK_work | thanks | 16:46 |
| SK_work | you are welcomed here | 16:46 |
| SK_work | but don't use sociald | 16:46 |
| randomActOfdevel | hm, why that? | 16:46 |
| SK_work | sociald is for non-insteand feeds like stuff (facebook feeds, twitter feeds, etc.) | 16:47 |
| randomActOfdevel | How would I integrate it into the messeging hub? | 16:47 |
| SK_work | you will need to do something related to telepathy | 16:47 |
| SK_work | and you will need to summon special | 16:47 |
| SK_work | (maybe he is sleeping atm :)) | 16:47 |
| SK_work | special knows how telepathy stuff are implemetned | 16:47 |
| randomActOfdevel | Is he the expert on these things? :) | 16:47 |
| randomActOfdevel | noice! | 16:47 |
| SK_work | you can also read freedesktop docs on telepathy | 16:47 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: well, special maintains jolla-messages | 16:48 |
| randomActOfdevel | thank you, I'll definitly read those! | 16:48 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: basically Jolla's messaging system is basd on telepathy | 16:48 |
| SK_work | randomActOfdevel: maybe you need this too http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/doc/telepathy-qt/ | 16:49 |
| randomActOfdevel | That should make things... easiert I hope? | 16:49 |
| randomActOfdevel | So it's based on telepathy. How would I apply a patch there? | 16:51 |
| randomActOfdevel | A shit I really need to leave now and didn't configure a bouncer on this channel. yet | 16:53 |
| randomActOfdevel | cya another time :D | 16:53 |
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| sandsmark | https://akulichalexandr.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/telegram-connection-manager-gsoc-2014-task-overview/ | 17:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | there is currently no 'public' api for the messaging system | 17:09 |
| r0kk3rz | afaik | 17:10 |
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| SK_work | r0kk3rz: I do wonder what you can pipe through telepathy | 17:16 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure you can hack something together | 17:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | but i think this was a topic of one of the mer meetings i was in | 17:17 |
| r0kk3rz | that there isnt an API developers can use to hook into the messaging system, and that jolla would look into doing so | 17:17 |
| r0kk3rz | but im sure its technically possible through telepathy | 17:18 |
| r0kk3rz | unified comms is always the way to go | 17:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | this seems like a good read so far http://www.aosabook.org/en/telepathy.html | 17:33 |
| coderus | god bless to Andrew den Exter for gstvideothumbnailer code! | 17:33 |
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| SK_work | coderus: ah ? | 17:36 |
| SK_work | too bad he cannot hear you :) | 17:37 |
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| * satmd got his new jolla \o/ | 17:50 | |
| Stskeeps | woo | 17:50 |
| coderus | this one: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-thumbnailer/blob/master/gstvideothumbnailer/gstvideothumbnailer.cpp | 17:50 |
| * satmd does the satmd dance | 17:50 | |
| coderus | SK_work: i know he know i like him :) | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | satmd: didn't you have one before? | 17:51 |
| SK_work | coderus: :) | 17:51 |
| SK_work | coderus: wow, that gst code ... don't look niec :) | 17:51 |
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| coderus | SK_work: that awesome code! | 17:51 |
| SK_work | coderus: it can be nice without looking awesome | 17:52 |
| * SK_work don't like code that don't contain Q stuff | 17:52 | |
| SK_work | (that's actually a problem) | 17:52 |
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| coderus | SK_work: :D | 17:52 |
| coderus | SK_work: thats why i like Andrew | 17:52 |
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| SK_work | :) | 17:53 |
| coderus | just copypasted code a nd it work over all platforms which have gst :) | 17:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | SK_work: want me to refactor everything so the classes start with q? | 17:57 |
| SK_work | r0kk3rz: and contains the Q_OBJECT macro | 17:57 |
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| SK_work | and nice signals and slots | 17:57 |
| SK_work | and | 17:57 |
| SK_work | ... | 17:57 |
| SK_work | :D | 17:57 |
| r0kk3rz | haha | 17:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | signals and slots are pretty useful | 17:57 |
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| ryukafalz | Welp, this is what I get for updating to a newer version on my own, heh | 18:21 |
| ryukafalz | "Fatal error: File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium 'https://store-repository.jolla.com/releases/1.0.8.19/jolla-hw/adaptation-lge-mako/armv7hl/?credentials=store'" | 18:22 |
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| coderus | store not supporting mako, so? | 19:43 |
| coderus | jolla store for jolla | 19:43 |
| coderus | therea re no "sailfish store" instead of openrepos :) | 19:43 |
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| Stskeeps | coderus: i'm fairly sure latest release had store support? | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | it shouldn't look for that adaptation though | 19:52 |
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| coderus | and jolla-hw is notabout jolla store ofc., sorry... | 20:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | well this is what happens when you call your device and you company the same name :P | 20:07 |
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| satmd | Stskeeps: cat, box, dropped | 20:41 |
| satmd | spiderman app | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 20:42 |
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| ryukafalz | coderus: well, I was trying to install gstreamer0.10-droidcamsrc and looks like it's in that repo | 21:03 |
| ryukafalz | things like that in jolla repos rather than upstream nemo/mer =/ | 21:06 |
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