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| m4g0g | Is is impossbile to see harbour comments via web? | 06:08 | 
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| kimmoli | atm afaik yes, impossible | 06:24 | 
| m4g0g | oh | 06:27 | 
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| Armadillo | oh come on | 07:34 | 
| VDVsx | humm, someone wanted me here, but not anymore in my back scroll, does the channel has logs ? | 07:34 | 
| Armadillo | my apps is empty again, this is really getting on my nervs... | 07:34 | 
| tbr | VDVsx: yes, should be in topic | 07:36 | 
| tbr | ah, no isn't | 07:37 | 
| tbr | VDVsx: http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/ | 07:37 | 
| tekojo | VDVsx: someone with the nick sandsmark | 07:38 | 
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| VDVsx | tbr, tekojo thx | 08:08 | 
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| locusf | I wonder what the utility is: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-snapshot/commit/d27878584b2ce6c5b4d80001cbb180a4a5818330 | 08:19 | 
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| anYc | I guess for the tablet | 08:34 | 
| anYc | at least the part with the factory image | 08:35 | 
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| locusf | I sure hope they won't use btrfs anymore | 08:36 | 
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| anYc | hm, works for me so far | 08:45 | 
| TemeV_ | locusf: why not? | 08:46 | 
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| Yaniel | because 8f btrfs metadata explosions | 08:51 | 
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| locusf | yeah | 08:55 | 
| TemeV | I though that is fixed in newer kernels? | 08:58 | 
| locusf | sure hope so | 08:59 | 
| TemeV | I wouldn't judge btrfs based on the version in the phone | 09:00 | 
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| coderus | just ask Stskeeps if btrfs will be used or not :) | 10:11 | 
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| chem|st | locusf: what should they use instead? | 12:11 | 
| chem|st | jffs? | 12:12 | 
| sandsmark | the unbalanced btrfs problems are fixed in newer kernels | 12:12 | 
| sandsmark | the kernel in sailfish is pretty ancient | 12:12 | 
| chem|st | sandsmark: and that is not even jolla's fault | 12:12 | 
| sandsmark | no, stupid drivers | 12:12 | 
| sandsmark | hopefully with tizen samsung can push for better drivers from qualcomm :) | 12:13 | 
| Stskeeps | they use spreadtrum on their device | 12:13 | 
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:13 | 
| sandsmark | oh | 12:13 | 
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| chem|st | sandsmark: tizen is so overrated, it is even worse than bada and that is unbearable already | 12:14 | 
| sandsmark | well, I thought it was better than it is, apparently :p | 12:14 | 
| sandsmark | but yeah, all the drivers for the nexus5 at least are open source (but some proprietary libraries using them), so I think things are getting better? | 12:15 | 
| sandsmark | (a guy I know is working on porting grsec to the nexus5) | 12:15 | 
| chem|st | a friend of mine made watchfaces for the tizen watch... he stopped as it is such a BS system | 12:15 | 
| sandsmark | heh | 12:15 | 
| sandsmark | well, a phone based on enlightenment sounds a bit cool | 12:16 | 
| sandsmark | qml is hugely inspired by the enlightenment ui things | 12:16 | 
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| chem|st | if you are using it... I never heard of enlightenment before tizen ever... so there is no fuzz for me | 12:20 | 
| sandsmark | no, I'm not using it, but it's basically where the idea of QML came from AFAIK | 12:20 | 
| chem|st | a windowmanager that works the same on a phone and a desktop is pretty much useless as it will depend on mouse and gestures and that is something I do neither need nor want on my desktop | 12:21 | 
| sandsmark | the windowmanager doesn't really have to care much about gestures | 12:22 | 
| sandsmark | or mouse | 12:22 | 
| sandsmark | anywho, the point was that QEdje was pretty much qml before qml :p | 12:22 | 
| chem|st | ok | 12:23 | 
| chem|st | but that has nothing to do with what you make of qml... | 12:23 | 
| sandsmark | no, but it is still a cool technology | 12:23 | 
| Stskeeps | sandsmark: sponsored by indt wasn't it | 12:23 | 
| sandsmark | yeah, iirc | 12:23 | 
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| netvandal | I'm getting confused about QTLocation and QtPosition.. Reading the harbour faq seems both are still forbidden, i found and old example on how to use geoclue, but someone may have a better example/best practice to get gps position now | 12:51 | 
| anYc | does someone know if there is already a feature request to en/disable wifi using a cover action of the settings app? | 12:51 | 
| netvandal | I have a travel guide for FOSDEM/bruxelle almost ready i need to figure this out | 12:51 | 
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| chem|st | anYc: yes | 13:03 | 
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| anYc | okay thanks, did not find it tjc | 13:05 | 
| anYc | on | 13:05 | 
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| chem|st | anYc: look for cover action | 13:07 | 
| chem|st | not for favourite | 13:07 | 
| chem|st | settings cover action, well I will have a look for you | 13:07 | 
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| stephg | afternoon folks | 13:18 | 
| netvandal | hello | 13:18 | 
| anYc | chem|st: strange, I thought I tried that. :/ but thanks, found it now | 13:19 | 
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| chem|st | ok | 13:20 | 
| netvandal | also, there is a way to programatically open the map application? | 13:22 | 
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| netvandal | Stskeeps: any hint? | 13:32 | 
| stephg | netvandal: well you can launch it via whatever the .desktop file does | 13:35 | 
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| netvandal | stephg: an example? i have no idea how to do that. | 13:37 | 
| stephg | netvandal: the file /usr/share/applications/sailfish-maps.desktop | 13:37 | 
| stephg | has this as the launch command: | 13:37 | 
| netvandal | also i should pass some parameters | 13:38 | 
| stephg | invoker --type=silica-qt5 -s /usr/bin/sailfish-maps | 13:38 | 
| netvandal | to show a location, like the people app do with address | 13:38 | 
| netvandal | i will check if it acceps parameter, thanks | 13:38 | 
| stephg | you only said programatically launch | 13:38 | 
| stephg | not pass parameters | 13:38 | 
| stephg | that's a different thing :) | 13:38 | 
| netvandal | any info about the Qtlocation/position alternatives? | 13:38 | 
| netvandal | stephg: true, ok so i can reformulate my questions >D | 13:39 | 
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| stephg | netvandal: unfortunately I have no idea what API the people app would use to pass a location/do a search in the maps app | 13:40 | 
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| netvandal | stephg: if i can eaily acces the location info by my self i can do in some others way | 13:41 | 
| netvandal | but it seems i cant | 13:41 | 
| stephg | netvandal: well getting the location should be easy | 13:44 | 
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| stephg | have a look for the sources of the various map apps in the warehouse for example | 13:44 | 
| stephg | poor maps, halftrail etc. | 13:45 | 
| chem|st | netvandal: have a look at the dbus output that calls maps from people (pretty sure that is docu'ed somewhere) | 13:47 | 
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| netvandal | chem|st: thankyou, i have to stop 1h, then i will look, and report here my findings.. thankyou | 13:50 | 
| netvandal | stephg: thankyou | 13:50 | 
| netvandal | i will look | 13:50 | 
| netvandal | have to go, see in 1h | 13:50 | 
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| stephg | good luck! | 13:53 | 
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| anandrkris | Hi - I raised about this issue already here...just checking for update | 15:05 | 
| anandrkris | https://together.jolla.com/question/62789/bug-punctuation-restricts-click-dial-options-for-phone-numbers/ | 15:05 | 
| anandrkris | Would like to know if it will be fixed in next release :) sorry to pester but this affects me on a daily basis | 15:05 | 
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| javispedro | I've read on the sailfishos plans that you're going to work on "improved notifications" | 15:20 | 
| javispedro | is there any more info re that? | 15:20 | 
| javispedro | I have some interest on the notification system (smartwatches, basically) | 15:21 | 
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| coderus | sandsmark: almost ready :) | 17:30 | 
| sandsmark | <3 | 17:30 | 
| coderus | it was a nice challenge! | 17:30 | 
| sandsmark | I will also be very grateful for it :D | 17:33 | 
| coderus | still need to decide what to do with existing buttons | 17:33 | 
| coderus | leave it or remove | 17:33 | 
| sandsmark | hmm, just leave them, I guess? | 17:33 | 
| sandsmark | seems nice to have both | 17:33 | 
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| * stephg pounces on sleeping-baby-time and reads the linuxvoice poettering systemd interview | 18:33 | |
| coderus | Lockscreen player patch for #SailfishOS updated to v0.0.5 gets gestures tracks control https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-lockscreen-mediaplayer-controls | 18:35 | 
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| Nokius | wait Coderus is not from Moscow man this was a looooooooooong trip ti HEL | 18:58 | 
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| coderus | Nokius: im 1800km far from moscow :) | 19:14 | 
| Nokius | coderus: I belived your home place is moscow I was sooo wrong... | 19:15 | 
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| coderus | i'm from Chelyabinsk :D | 19:20 | 
| Nokius | now I know it :P | 19:28 | 
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| saidinesh5 | sandsmark: grrrr yesterday's commit seems to not work well...... | 19:31 | 
| saidinesh5 | no clue why... i implemented exactly what that blogpost was telling | 19:32 | 
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| Nokius | what is the command to start Sailfishsdk from cli ... is not qt sa.. any one with a hind? | 19:33 | 
| Yaniel | virtualbox something | 19:33 | 
| Yaniel | vboxmanage maybe | 19:33 | 
| Yaniel | or do you mean the qt creator | 19:34 | 
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| Nokius | yes the qt creator | 19:35 | 
| Nokius | coderus: what is your car? Niva :o | 19:35 | 
| coderus | Nokius: bin/qtcreator | 19:37 | 
| coderus | Nokius: Ford Fusion | 19:37 | 
| Nokius | :) Focus | 19:37 | 
| Nokius | coderus: thanks in the Sailfish folder :D | 19:42 | 
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| metjuf | Hello everyone | 20:20 | 
| metjuf | Is there somebody who has experience with Sailfish OS on Nexus 4? | 20:20 | 
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| * dwangoAC waits for someone to answer metjuf and hopes Bluetooth is working now | 20:20 | |
| dwangoAC | metjuf: What's your question, BTW? | 20:21 | 
| Nokius | metjuf: #sailfishos-porters is the place for your question | 20:22 | 
| Nokius | has someone a idea how to fix this get in qtcreator this error https://www.zerobin.net/?377f34e4a5ce6a4f#jvb1Bp9g7m9wvG9od6DdRWzqxiTVmy5V+qyXGIvlf+0= | 20:23 | 
| Nokius | sorry for the german parts | 20:24 | 
| metjuf | dwangoAC: I would like to install Sailfish OS on N4, love this OS. My question is.. how much stable is it? Can i use it daily as my main phone? | 20:24 | 
| dwangoAC | metjuf: I think it is stable, but it lacks Bluetooth in the version I last tried. | 20:25 | 
| Nokius | metjuf: #sialfishos-porters is the popper channel sledges and Co will help you :) | 20:26 | 
| Nokius | * #sailfishos-porters | 20:26 | 
| dwangoAC | Nokius: He's in the channel now | 20:26 | 
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| Nokius | dwangoAC: okay I was not interssted to be rude but its much better there than here and we cross post :) | 20:27 | 
| coderus | Nokius: ah home/src1 ... it was discussed so many times :D | 20:31 | 
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| coderus | but i never read the solution, so i can't help you LD | 20:32 | 
| coderus | ;D | 20:32 | 
| Nokius | :P | 20:32 | 
| coderus | probably reinstall and check sailfishos folder path | 20:32 | 
| Nokius | coderus: okay will check logs thanks | 20:32 | 
| coderus | its something related to the name of user and sailfishos folder location | 20:32 | 
| coderus | afaik :) | 20:32 | 
| Nokius | coderus: was guessting that | 20:32 | 
| coderus | i never had such problem, and i'm using mer in chroot, not using virtualbox :) | 20:33 | 
| Nokius | :D | 20:35 | 
| sledges | Nokius: dwangoAC meant that i'm in that channel now (chuckles) | 20:36 | 
| dwangoAC | Oh, I meant metjuf was in the channel | 20:36 | 
| Nokius | sledges: I saw that :P | 20:36 | 
| sledges | lol | 20:36 | 
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| Nokius | coderus: ha reinstall was not the fix for me .... | 20:37 | 
| Nokius | searchengine first hit tjc :P | 20:38 | 
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| Nokius | coderus: all the magic is to remove .config/SailfishBeta1/ | 20:45 | 
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| coderus | check this: https://together.jolla.com/question/50697/after-sailfish-sdk-1407-update-build-complains-about-homesrc1-and-fails/?answer=50719#post-id-50719 | 20:47 | 
| coderus | Nokius: cool :) | 20:47 | 
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| nykac- | is it possible to have a ssh client built w/ gssapi support? | 21:09 | 
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| Nokius | coderus: i did that :D | 21:11 | 
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| Nokius | will take a nape now still suppressed about the qml easynes hope my first application will get a nice shape this weekend :-) | 21:13 | 
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| sandsmark | nykac-: just tweak the .spec file, and upload it to the OBS? | 21:17 | 
| sandsmark | or just build it locally | 21:17 | 
| nykac- | sandsmark: okay | 21:17 | 
| sandsmark | you might need to package libgssapi or something, though? | 21:18 | 
| nykac- | sandsmark: I'd done a couple local builds, I'll start using OBS | 21:18 | 
| nykac- | sandsmark: shouldn't be to hard | 21:18 | 
| sandsmark | indeed | 21:18 | 
| sandsmark | and with OBS you don't need to waste your own cpu cycles or something :P | 21:18 | 
| nykac- | sandsmark: just get the gssapi rpmspec from suse | 21:18 | 
| sandsmark | yeah | 21:18 | 
| sandsmark | you could also try to push it upstream to mer :) | 21:19 | 
| * Nokius gn8 | 21:20 | |
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