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| mhall119 | yes, in Ubuntu everything is open source except those device drivers that are not and a binary for the Nokia HERE AGPS service | 00:22 |
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| m4g0g | morning | 03:58 |
| m4g0g | If I want to update application in harbour I should resubmit it? | 03:59 |
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| kimmoli | m4g0g: just update the page, and click submit to QA | 04:53 |
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| m4g0g | thx | 05:00 |
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| iekku | Elleo, copy (to request about cuteSpotify) | 07:53 |
| iekku | Elleo, for cases like this i recommend to use developer-care :) | 07:53 |
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| Elleo | iekku: thanks :) | 09:39 |
| iekku | Elleo, please take a look to your inbox, i sent you mail :) | 09:46 |
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| Elleo | iekku: yep, just saw it | 09:56 |
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| Elleo | iekku: sent | 09:58 |
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| iekku | Elleo, thanks :) | 11:06 |
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| kimmoli | iekku: o/ | 11:21 |
| iekku | kimmoli, \o | 11:22 |
| kimmoli | i'm getting invalid filename for chargemon update... | 11:22 |
| kimmoli | have you made rules tighter during friday? | 11:23 |
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| iekku | kimmoli, let me check | 11:26 |
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| iekku | Elleo, it's done. if you see lukdirtwalker around, please share info | 11:54 |
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| ikarus_ | if I want to write something that will only issue notifications (and when those notifications are clicked on launch another proper app) and is designed to run in the background, what should I be doing ? (and any examples ?) | 11:57 |
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| Elleo | iekku: great, thanks very much | 12:01 |
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| iekku | Elleo, :) | 12:07 |
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| coderus | ikarus_: notifications to launch another app? | 12:30 |
| ikarus_ | coderus: yes, the other app doesn't do notifications itself, but it can be launched with a commandline parameter related to the notification (which fullfills it) | 12:31 |
| coderus | ikarus_: notifications launch dbus command, not commandline | 12:32 |
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| ikarus_ | coderus: sure, but that means I just have to handle those | 12:37 |
| ikarus_ | coderus: I am more talking about how the hell do I launch a background process the "nice way" on SailfishOS | 12:37 |
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| coderus | not your app it seems? | 12:41 |
| ikarus_ | coderus: let's ignore what to do on notifications | 12:43 |
| ikarus_ | the main issue I am just facing is writing something that is launched at startup and can interact with dbus and hence notifications, how would I do that and how would it be packaged up nicely | 12:44 |
| Yaniel | add a systemd user service? | 12:45 |
| ikarus_ | Yaniel: sure, now how do I make it launch at startup and package that up nicely ? | 12:45 |
| Yaniel | yes | 12:46 |
| Yaniel | make the app symlink the service file at first run? | 12:46 |
| Yaniel | after asking the user for permissio preferrably | 12:46 |
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| ikarus_ | Yaniel: you are inverting it now I think, I need to mostly push notifications to the user, while services files launch them on demand when some dbus client needs them (not 100% familiar with dbus perhaps there is a "always launch me when dbus starts", but I'd love a documentation link in that case) | 12:48 |
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| coderus | ikarus_: Freedesktop DBus docs and systemd are ok | 13:02 |
| coderus | you can look at my files for example: | 13:03 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/server/dbus/harbour.mitakuuluu2.server.service | 13:03 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/server/systemd/harbour-mitakuuluu2.service | 13:03 |
| ikarus_ | coderus: I won't argue about the documentation other then that it is hard to search through it | 13:06 |
| ikarus_ | but thanks for the examples | 13:06 |
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| ikarus_ | (as in, I can't find the specification for the service files, nor the documentation for them, just summarizes of common options) | 13:08 |
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| cmazieri | coderus: is mitakuuluu (whatsapp) working on sailfishos or accounts are being banned? | 13:35 |
| Yaniel | both? | 13:35 |
| coderus | yeah :D | 13:35 |
| Yaniel | it is quite choppy on vaarainjärvi though | 13:36 |
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| cmazieri | coderus: do you mean I can try with no risk? | 13:37 |
| Yaniel | you can always switch to the android client and have them unban you if you get banned | 13:38 |
| Yaniel | so even though there is a risk it is not that bad | 13:38 |
| cmazieri | Yaniel: Thanks. | 13:39 |
| sandsmark | hum, my jolla just spontaneously rebooted twice | 13:41 |
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| Nicd- | but getting unbanned from whatsapp takes a long time | 14:00 |
| Nicd- | I've heard their customer support is quite slow | 14:00 |
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| ottulo | Yaniel: is the choppiness of Mitakuuluu on Vaarainjärvi very bad, or just occasional? | 14:01 |
| ottulo | I'm wondering if I should bother trying to get unbanned and using it again | 14:01 |
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| Yaniel | it is quite bad | 14:41 |
| Yaniel | I decided to just ditch wa completely | 14:41 |
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| ottulo | ok, so might be wasted effort, then :/ | 14:43 |
| ikarus_ | anyone know the documentation for the files in /usr/share/lipstick/notificationcategories ? and just as significantly, what about the supported Hints for Notifications and their general styling ? | 14:44 |
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| ikarus_ | (the specific extensions/supported features of notifications on SailfishOS seem to be rather undocumented) | 14:47 |
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| ottulo | huh, seems like I wasn't banned after all, and Mitakuuluu stopped working for some other reason - or they unbanned at some point for no reason, since registering on Android WA was no problem | 14:51 |
| ikarus_ | I mean I can't find any info on making a new notification with sound and LED effect, plus lockscreen display (just banner and in notification pull up work and I can borrow some existing categories) | 14:53 |
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| ikarus_ | ah, found a start, the ngfd is responsible for the sounds and LEDs and has it's own configs in /usr/share/ngfd/events.d/ | 15:23 |
| ikarus_ | now to figure out how the lockscreen notifications work and how /usr/share/lipstick/notificationcategories works exactly | 15:24 |
| Yaniel | mitakuuluu should be a good example again | 15:24 |
| ikarus_ | Yaniel: you seem to be missing the point that I prefer documentation over examples | 15:24 |
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| ikarus_ | Yaniel: btw, any examples/info on the "notifications on lockscreen" | 15:54 |
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| coderus | ikarus_: x-nemo-priority=100 | 15:59 |
| ikarus_ | lol, thanks, (anyone up for helping fill the wiki with atleast a gist of how this ties together ?) | 16:00 |
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| coderus | ikarus_: notification contains common nemo flags, ngfd flag is x-nemo-feedback. in ngfd event you set relations between profiles. and in profiled config you set default profile values for tones, mutings and mce led pattern. | 16:03 |
| coderus | i spent a week for figuring it :D | 16:03 |
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| ikarus_ | coderus: yeah, I think I have most of it, but will probably wikify the information so the next person doesn't spend a week looking | 16:37 |
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| coderus | i had blog for these kind of tips for developers | 17:22 |
| coderus | but i forgot it address :D | 17:22 |
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| Yaniel | coding submarine? | 17:24 |
| SpeedEvil | https://twitter.com/DEVOPS_BORAT | 17:28 |
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| coderus | http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/ | 17:39 |
| coderus | here :D | 17:39 |
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| coderus | can post information about notifications here | 17:39 |
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| Mano | hi, is there any place where i can get some elaborate information about active coers? | 17:44 |
| Mano | like docs, blogs... anything will do. can anyone help me.. | 17:45 |
| Armadillo | what do you want to know? | 17:46 |
| piggz | hey .... why is sailfish ignoring my animations in QML ? | 17:46 |
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| lbt | piggz: can you provide an rpm or something that will install on a jolla | 17:48 |
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| Mano | Armadillo: i have implemented covers in my app. bit is behaving erratically. i want to know about dynamic covers.. | 17:51 |
| Armadillo | erm well... | 17:51 |
| lbt | Mano: a cover is just a QML view | 17:52 |
| Armadillo | what do you mean with "dynamic"? | 17:52 |
| lbt | no different to any QML 'Page' in SFOS | 17:52 |
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| lbt | so feel free to handle events, do animations, anything you like | 17:52 |
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| Mano | Armadillo: have two pages and two different covers. | 17:53 |
| lbt | (but watch power consumption of course) | 17:53 |
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| Armadillo | I don't know if it is possible to use a pagestack on the cover | 17:54 |
| Armadillo | I'm hanbdling everything with one cover page | 17:54 |
| Armadillo | handling | 17:54 |
| Mano | Armadillo: thats y i call it dynamic.. | 17:55 |
| lbt | can't use pagestack on covers | 17:55 |
| lbt | there's not much in the way of touch events | 17:55 |
| Mano | Armadillo: there is a readymade sample - componentgallery | 17:55 |
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| Armadillo | yes | 17:56 |
| Mano | there this kind of dynamic cover is implemented. but i need some more documentation | 17:56 |
| Armadillo | you need to specify what you want to do on the cover or our possibilities to help you are very limited | 17:57 |
| Armadillo | the component gallery has no cover actions I think | 17:57 |
| Armadillo | so I don't know what you want to achieve | 17:57 |
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| Mano | it has cover actions. based on the option u choose in dropdown, the cover actions are changed | 17:59 |
| lbt | Mano: have you used 'screenshot' app ? | 18:00 |
| Mano | yes yes | 18:00 |
| lbt | ok - you know the actions there change according to if there is a screenshot 'taken' ? | 18:01 |
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| lbt | here: http://pastie.org/9841122 | 18:02 |
| lbt | see many CoverActionList entries - each is 'enabled' based on a QML property | 18:02 |
| Armadillo | you can use a global variable and catch the onPropertyXChanged event to check it's values and change the cover layout depending on the value | 18:02 |
| lbt | Armadillo: no need - see code | 18:02 |
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| Mano | lbt: u have developed it right? | 18:03 |
| lbt | property bindings already have implicit event handling built in | 18:03 |
| lbt | yes | 18:03 |
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| Mano | lbt: great app man. | 18:03 |
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| lbt | ty | 18:03 |
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| Armadillo | well it depends on what the goal of the different covers is | 18:04 |
| lbt | Armadillo: yes, agreed | 18:04 |
| Mano | btw, cover actions can be changed from same page.. | 18:04 |
| lbt | Armadillo: but look at the code I pasted | 18:04 |
| Armadillo | I did | 18:04 |
| Mano | but what i need is two different pages and covers. | 18:04 |
| lbt | so the same approach can be used for any nested component in the cover | 18:04 |
| lbt | enable/disable the entire block | 18:05 |
| Armadillo | I know ;) | 18:05 |
| Armadillo | I'm also doing this with tasklist | 18:05 |
| Mano | i need something like gallery app. | 18:06 |
| Armadillo | ok last try | 18:06 |
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| Mano | u open gallery app, cover shows first 6 photos. | 18:06 |
| Armadillo | WHAT do you want to achieve exactly? | 18:06 |
| Mano | open any photo, show that photo in cover. | 18:06 |
| Mano | clear now? | 18:07 |
| Mano | and both covers should have different actions. | 18:07 |
| coderus | Mano: cover: photoPageActive ? photoCover : defaultCover | 18:07 |
| coderus | clear enough? | 18:07 |
| Armadillo | lbt already showed you code how to enable or disable different cover actions | 18:08 |
| Armadillo | ah know I got it | 18:08 |
| Armadillo | I think you want what coderus mentioned^^ | 18:09 |
| Armadillo | define two covers with different ids and use them as you need them | 18:09 |
| Mano | u mean define 2 different qml s?? | 18:10 |
| coderus | Mano: sure | 18:10 |
| coderus | as you need two different covers | 18:11 |
| Mano | coderus: and can i access their properties from any pages? | 18:11 |
| coderus | Mano: no, you can access global window properties from cover page instead | 18:12 |
| coderus | you can get main idea of accessing properties in cover here: http://sailfishdev.tumblr.com/post/86418219502/dynamic-coverpage | 18:13 |
| Mano | thanks.. got some ideas now.. will give them a try. | 18:14 |
| Mano | thanks everyone guys.. | 18:14 |
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| Armadillo | I'm accessing the window properties by appwindow.property to be sure I access the correct property | 18:15 |
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| Niju | Well, I just ordered my Jolla off amazon, should have it tomorrow | 18:48 |
| Niju | I guess I should update it before I do anything else? | 18:49 |
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| muppis | Niju, definitely. | 19:04 |
| coderus | Niju: you should create jolla account first :) | 19:08 |
| coderus | and then you can check for updates and install latest sailfishos | 19:08 |
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| Niju | I made a jolla account yesterday. :) So ready to go | 19:16 |
| Niju | Any other repo's I should be aware of? I know about openrepo's but are there others? | 19:16 |
| muppis | Not really. With Warehouse (which uses Openrepo's) you're quite good to go. | 19:17 |
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| Niju | Cool. Downloaded the sdk so if I ever get round to checking it out, I'll see how easy app development can be. | 19:19 |
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| Niju | I'm only a reasonably competent C programmer :P | 19:20 |
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| Nokius | jollagram German done :D | 19:22 |
| Niju | :) | 19:24 |
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| faenil | :) | 19:26 |
| muppis | Hmph.. My laptop is at my gf and all projects are there. :( | 19:27 |
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| faenil | "projects"...yeah :D | 19:27 |
| muppis | faenil, oh, behave! I really meant Sailfish OS projects. :P | 19:28 |
| faenil | :S | 19:28 |
| faenil | :D | 19:28 |
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| muppis | Two of them are ready to be published. Just need a little clean up to be done. | 19:30 |
| Niju | Hah! :P | 19:30 |
| Niju | What are these projects? | 19:30 |
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| muppis | Patch to calllog to show times in older entries. By default it shows time only for taody entries. For older just 'Yesterday' and then date. | 19:33 |
| Niju | Ah, handy but overlooked thing | 19:34 |
| muppis | Other one is GPS based speed display forked from GPSInfo in favor of Speedview for Android. | 19:35 |
| Niju | cool | 19:36 |
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| muppis | There is a trick patchin calllog. It cannot be fully applied from Patchmanager because one service needed to be restarted and I'm not aware is that possible with Patchmanager. | 19:39 |
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| muppis | Is there any tutorial to write share plugin? I'd like to make one. | 19:47 |
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| TemeV | muppis: I think it's still not harbour-approved so no official tutorials. Iirc Mitäkuuluu had share plugin, so maybe you can use it as an example | 19:54 |
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| muppis | TemeV, oh. I forgot that one. Thanks for a tip. | 19:56 |
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| coderus | muppis: there is should be service for calllog | 23:02 |
| coderus | SK_work: ^ | 23:02 |
| coderus | i mean category | 23:02 |
| coderus | after enabling patch patchmanager allow you to restart service for patch category using "Restart predefined services" menu | 23:02 |
| coderus | but reboot is always ok :) | 23:03 |
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| ottulo | eh, what? messages app shows recent messages from different people, then a header "Friday", after that "Yesterday", then "Wednesday" and "Older" | 23:15 |
| ottulo | I have a feeling that "Yesterday" should be "Thursday" (when the messages were sent) | 23:15 |
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| coderus | screenshot? | 23:20 |
| ottulo | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67651714/20150120012203.jpg | 23:29 |
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| SaberAltria | Hello | 23:38 |
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| zetaz | Hi. Anyone here with working voicemail notification, who could send me a screen capture of how they are shown in the interface ? | 23:50 |
| zetaz | I need to know what to look for to create a patch for all of us with network operators where the Jolla doesn't support this function. | 23:51 |
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| zetaz | I have found my way in ofono to get the info, now I need to put that in the UI | 23:51 |
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