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| bluszcz_ | hi, is qtpositioning is available in latest update? https://together.jolla.com/question/11446/support-for-qtpositioning-qtlocation-apis/ | 09:41 |
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| Hartzi | bluszcz: should be | 09:49 |
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| locusf | hi bluszcz | 09:56 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 09:57 |
| locusf | bluszcz: if you wonder why the hi, we met at the fosdem dinner :) | 10:01 |
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| bluszcz | locusf: :) | 10:13 |
| bluszcz | locusf: good morning | 10:13 |
| locusf | bluszcz: yeah good morning | 10:13 |
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| Nicd- | bluszcz: you can use QtPositioning but you cannot get your app into Harbour then | 10:22 |
| Nicd- | until it's accepted | 10:22 |
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| leszek | hi | 10:24 |
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| bluszcz | Nicd-: ok, thank you for info | 14:31 |
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| bluszcz | https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/code-walkthrough/ documentation says that all files from qml will be copied to device, but it seems that my images are not being copied.... what is the univeral way to access resources? | 15:51 |
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| bluszcz | ok, my picture is there /usr/share/VDefaultApp/qml/pages/images/barcelona.jpg - but App says QML Image: Cannot open: file:/ /usr/share/VDefaultApp/qml/pages/images/barcelona.jpg | 15:57 |
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| bluszcz | I am trying to load it with source: "images/barcelona.jpg" | 15:58 |
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| coderus | bluszcz: maybe source: "/usr/share/VDefaultApp/qml/pages/images/barcelona.jpg" ? | 17:16 |
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| Ponchale | hi | 17:42 |
| Ponchale | some moderator or someone belonging to the staff of Sailfish? | 17:43 |
| ikarus | Ponchale: Jolla, but no, but can someone else help, if it is a security issue, report it by mail | 17:44 |
| Ponchale | is not a technical issue proposed an alliance and thus we see that the means which would respond to us | 17:45 |
| Ponchale | irc either skype phone call or email but as we are very greedily and ready for this response | 17:46 |
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| Nicd- | Ponchale: I don't know exactly what you want but have you looked here? https://jolla.com/contact/ | 17:50 |
| Ponchale | Nicd and walked there and send mail and a few days ago | 17:50 |
| Ponchale | I just do not understand the reason for the delay of the response | 17:51 |
| r0kk3rz | Ponchale: the guys are no doubt still busy with MWC dealings | 17:52 |
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| Ponchale | aaaaaaa Ok Ok ok still in barcelona | 17:53 |
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| Ponchale | back then talk next week | 17:53 |
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| Ponchale | believe it is possible that Jolla wanted to be in other parts of the world? | 17:58 |
| leszek | I guess so | 17:59 |
| r0kk3rz | also Ponchale #jollamobile is probably the best channel for Jolla related stuff | 18:05 |
| Ponchale | Thanks r0kk3rz | 18:07 |
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| tortoisedoc | duh | 20:39 |
| tortoisedoc | I want my jolla tablet now :[ | 20:39 |
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| chem|st | I want to rule the world now :] | 20:40 |
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| tortoisedoc | chem|st if that gets my jolla tablet right now you have my vote | 20:41 |
| chem|st | you think that will be up to a vote... you will never get a tablet... | 20:43 |
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| leszek | hmm... I wondering why the alpha version with sailfish 2.0 ui for the nexus 5 wasn't released yet. Would be a good testing opportunity for the new ui elements | 20:45 |
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| tortoisedoc | chem|st vote is just a variable :P | 20:51 |
| chem|st | leszek: ? | 20:51 |
| chem|st | what elements, cover-action-buttons? | 20:52 |
| chem|st | the drop-down? | 20:52 |
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| coderus | leszek: ahahah | 21:07 |
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| coderus | publishing SailfishOS 2.0 to nexus5 before Jolla Phone and Tablet, great idea! | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: hrm? | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | demo image, afaik | 21:07 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: read leszek post above :) | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | ah, right | 21:08 |
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| Stskeeps | if such a thing was to happen and i really doubt it would, n5 would have the benefit of not being remotely warranty related, :P | 21:09 |
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| Nokius | wondering what demo means ;) I guess it is a demo like demo it's WIP or? some guys we can wait till summer and enjoy both summer waether and SFOS 2.0 :D | 21:10 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | Nokius: as in specially made for the occasion; not released or qa'ed | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:11 |
| coderus | Nokius: summer :( | 21:11 |
| tortoisedoc | sfos 2.0 in summer only? | 21:12 |
| tortoisedoc | :P | 21:12 |
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| coderus | Summer sfOS 2.0 Sale! | 21:12 |
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| coderus | pleeeease | 21:14 |
| leszek | I basically meant the new multitasking ui. I know its a demo. But at least the camera working is a nice feature that isn't in the newest alpha | 21:14 |
| coderus | somebody update /topic with 1502 sdk link | 21:14 |
| leszek | and would be useful :=) | 21:14 |
| coderus | leszek: camera not working in 8 alpha? | 21:14 |
| coderus | i thought some progress were made | 21:14 |
| leszek | nope first of all alpha 8 is broken all over the place. The camera can't start because of missing packages | 21:15 |
| tortoisedoc | leszek : repost link? | 21:15 |
| leszek | basically the qml imports don't work | 21:15 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure things like that will be fixed in a release before sfos2 | 21:15 |
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| coderus | leszek: ah, and sfos2.0 port on n5 camera works because of gstreamer1.x i suppose :) | 21:16 |
| leszek | yeah might be | 21:16 |
| leszek | and alpha 8 also ships with broken repos. So you need to deactivate some repos first for it to download and install other packages | 21:16 |
| coderus | leszek: it shouldn't be a big deal :) | 21:17 |
| leszek | and gstreamer is apparently also not shipped completely in alpha 8 as you are unable to playback videos due to missing gstreamer plugins. But installing them is not possible as they seem to be in the broken repo | 21:17 |
| coderus | what "broken repo" means? | 21:17 |
| coderus | repo can't be broken :) | 21:17 |
| leszek | pkcon refresh is throwing an Authentification failed | 21:18 |
| leszek | I all reported that here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1462393&postcount=21 | 21:18 |
| coderus | leszek: you should check ssu flavour and domain | 21:19 |
| coderus | also set correct release version | 21:19 |
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| coderus | i don't know details but everything seems a little mistake in ssu | 21:19 |
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| tortoisedoc | ssu = pain :D | 21:19 |
| tortoisedoc | better stay away from it | 21:19 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: lol | 21:20 |
| tortoisedoc | (at least for now) | 21:20 |
| * tortoisedoc shrugs | 21:20 | |
| coderus | better stay away from everything you can't/don't want to understand | 21:20 |
| leszek | coderus: I checked everything and it seems correct to me | 21:20 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : if you do not look at it , it does not exist right? :P | 21:20 |
| coderus | leszek: okay, just wait for next release then :) | 21:20 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: yeah | 21:20 |
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| coderus | just let somebody to feed yo sorted and filtered data :) | 21:21 |
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| tortoisedoc | most importantly TARGETED data ;) | 21:21 |
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| tortoisedoc | ARG | 21:22 |
| coderus | i'm always thinking, what targeted ads and links google ceo receiving? | 21:22 |
| tortoisedoc | this qtcreator building is frying my i5 cpu | 21:22 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: Y U DO SO? | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : lexus ads :P | 21:23 |
| coderus | why you need to rebuild qtc yourself? | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc | nono | 21:23 |
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| tortoisedoc | tesla ads :D | 21:23 |
| coderus | :D | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc | i want to fix a bug | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc | was a stupid idea | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc | :| | 21:23 |
| Nokius | Stskeeps: I guess so I read the mailing list and some Jolla Engineers had some sleep less night before MWC right ;)# | 21:23 |
| Nokius | coderus: yes it will be hot again :) | 21:24 |
| coderus | aha, TESLA Corp, XXX Billions sales, YYY Billions costs, Efficiency is ZZZ. Buy it now! | 21:24 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: you can try to build it in launchpad obs? | 21:25 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : Y U UAIT FOR OBS ;_; | 21:25 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: what? | 21:25 |
| tortoisedoc | when you can fry sausages on your laptop while building qtcreator | 21:26 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: haha | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc | oh man | 21:26 |
| coderus | my laptop will shutdown if i start compiling such amount | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc | i love friday's | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc | shutdown O_o | 21:26 |
| coderus | i can compile only for 203 minutes | 21:26 |
| coderus | 2-3 minutes* | 21:26 |
| coderus | yep | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc | 203 minutes :D | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc | how comes | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc | cooler broken? | 21:26 |
| coderus | my laptop southbridge is overheating after static electricity shock in usb port, usb port died, and low southbridge is overheating when doing something. even bios menu is glitching whei it's hot :D | 21:27 |
| coderus | currently i setup mersdk to remote vps and tunneled 2222 port to it over ssh :D | 21:28 |
| tortoisedoc | actually I was thinking to do the same | 21:28 |
| coderus | almost everything works with no hacks | 21:29 |
| tortoisedoc | what kind of share you have between your machine and the sdk | 21:29 |
| tortoisedoc | nfs? | 21:29 |
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| coderus | sshfs | 21:29 |
| tortoisedoc | put mersdk on amazon cloud :D | 21:29 |
| tortoisedoc | personal OBS -> rulez | 21:29 |
| coderus | :) | 21:29 |
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| coderus | but vps cpu is not so limited as storage speed. | 21:30 |
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| coderus | so now i locked myself with laptop problem. almost found good coding work on remote, but now i can't work, and for fixing/buying new laptop i need to do some more software, but i can't because my laptop don't want to compile software anymore :D | 21:31 |
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| coderus | seems i need to work for some months on my previous work again :D | 21:32 |
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| coderus | and need to buy middle range desktop :D | 21:33 |
| Nokius | coderus: or a build box :) | 21:33 |
| r0kk3rz | what happened to your indiegogo millions? | 21:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : they went to his tesla ofc :P | 21:34 |
| coderus | r0kk3rz: after my finland trip i had -2500 euros balance on my credit card, so :D | 21:35 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah fair enough | 21:35 |
| coderus | why you think i'm trying to do various things intensively last time :D | 21:35 |
| coderus | it helped a lod, now i have just -800 :D | 21:36 |
| coderus | a lot* | 21:36 |
| coderus | it was a stupid idea to go to finland using credit card :D | 21:36 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : credit card itself is a stupid idea | 21:37 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: no | 21:37 |
| r0kk3rz | coderus: cant do smart things all the time | 21:37 |
| coderus | r0kk3rz: lol yes :D | 21:37 |
| r0kk3rz | otherwise thats just way too boring | 21:37 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : meaning, OWNING a credit card | 21:37 |
| tortoisedoc | (and yes I do own too) | 21:37 |
| tortoisedoc | it makes it waaay too easy to spend | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | for example | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | I just bought new rpi | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | do i need it? no | 21:38 |
| r0kk3rz | a credit card isnt a stupid idea, done right its free credit | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | but hey, its only 45 bucks | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | and it takes a few clicks | 21:38 |
| r0kk3rz | but it does enable stupid behavoir | 21:38 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc: well, if you nave no mind sure ;) | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus : :D | 21:38 |
| tortoisedoc | im the first one to say im not smart :P | 21:39 |
| coderus | i have 100 days no-rate period on credit card, but it will end soon :D | 21:39 |
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| tortoisedoc | hm | 21:43 |
| tortoisedoc | seems ill have to go to the office tomorrow then | 21:43 |
| tortoisedoc | to get qtcreator to compile :D | 21:43 |
| coderus | what bug you fixing? | 21:44 |
| tortoisedoc | i guess qtcreator 5.4 did not really improve much on big projects | 21:44 |
| tortoisedoc | I want to see if i can do something for the timeouts | 21:45 |
| tortoisedoc | I do not have high hopes | 21:45 |
| tortoisedoc | but I have some free time :P | 21:45 |
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| tortoisedoc | sigh | 21:46 |
| tortoisedoc | my rpi order is still pending :( | 21:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: the mersdk timeouts? | 21:49 |
| r0kk3rz | pretty sure thats a vbox bug | 21:49 |
| tortoisedoc | hah | 21:52 |
| tortoisedoc | well | 21:52 |
| r0kk3rz | everytime you do a compile, 50 connections are created on the vm | 21:54 |
| r0kk3rz | those connections are being freed on the windows side, but not closed on the vm side | 21:54 |
| r0kk3rz | so after some time, and many compiles, the vm runs out of connections | 21:55 |
| r0kk3rz | so, pretty sure its vbox | 21:55 |
| tortoisedoc | 50 connections to what? | 21:56 |
| tortoisedoc | vbox? | 21:56 |
| tortoisedoc | or ssh? | 21:56 |
| tortoisedoc | as compiling happens over ssh | 21:57 |
| tortoisedoc | i'd say ssh | 21:57 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 21:57 |
| tortoisedoc | but that means that the ssh server on the mer machine is kind-of misalligned perhaps no? | 21:57 |
| r0kk3rz | kimmo and I poked around in it a while ago | 21:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | he 'fixed' his by making a cron job to restart it every 30min | 21:57 |
| tortoisedoc | 50 connections is alot indee | 21:57 |
| tortoisedoc | *indeed | 21:58 |
| tortoisedoc | classic :P | 21:58 |
| r0kk3rz | feel free to verify, and dig deeper | 21:58 |
| tortoisedoc | i trust your words, | 21:58 |
| tortoisedoc | im just wondering why they are needed | 21:58 |
| r0kk3rz | there was a bugfix in a vbox release that seemed to match the problem | 21:59 |
| r0kk3rz | so maybe it wasnt fixed | 21:59 |
| tortoisedoc | I guess you looked at the mer plugin? | 22:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | not really | 22:00 |
| r0kk3rz | as it appeared to be closing the connections, as they're being closed in windows | 22:00 |
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| tortoisedoc | so its really the ssh server on the mer sdk? | 22:01 |
| r0kk3rz | possibly | 22:02 |
| r0kk3rz | or something inbetween | 22:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog << "NAT Network: fixed inbound half-close on Windows hosts " | 22:05 |
| r0kk3rz | seems very similar to whats happening | 22:05 |
| trt` | hey guys, do you know a big open source search engine? | 22:05 |
| r0kk3rz | but if its present on linux installs, then maybe its something else | 22:05 |
| r0kk3rz | trt`: to develop with or to use | 22:06 |
| trt` | to use | 22:06 |
| tortoisedoc | and it is present on linux installs? | 22:06 |
| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc: i have no idea | 22:07 |
| r0kk3rz | trt`: as a google replacement? | 22:07 |
| trt` | yep | 22:07 |
| r0kk3rz | hmmmm | 22:07 |
| trt` | google/bing alternative | 22:07 |
| r0kk3rz | open source, im not sure I can think of any | 22:07 |
| r0kk3rz | ive developed with solr and sphinx before though | 22:08 |
| leszek | btw. the nexus 5 demos with sailfish os 2.0 looked pretty smooth aswell, was that qt 5.4 only or did someone work on the libhybris driver ? As on current alpha 8 it feels slower than on the jolla | 22:08 |
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| tortoisedoc | yaks | 22:09 |
| tortoisedoc | still no win7 tag :/ | 22:09 |
| tortoisedoc | on my tjc post | 22:09 |
| trt` | any popular software developed with solr for example? | 22:09 |
| tortoisedoc | it must be a tm thing i guess | 22:09 |
| M4rtinK | well, there is http://yacy.net/en/index.html | 22:11 |
| r0kk3rz | trt`: probably, but likely to be hidden behind the scenes | 22:11 |
| trt` | r0kk3rz, don't you think google changing the search algorthm is kinda shady | 22:11 |
| M4rtinK | and they seem to do something with Solr | 22:11 |
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| trt` | and I mean, it's gonna turn out like media - finding whatever the World Elite wants you to find | 22:11 |
| trt` | thanks M4rtinK | 22:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | not sure about the World Elite, but what google wants you to find | 22:13 |
| r0kk3rz | ie. things that confirm your preconceived biases | 22:13 |
| trt` | yeah.. they are a part of that :) | 22:14 |
| r0kk3rz | ddg is probably the best 'alternative' at the moment | 22:16 |
| r0kk3rz | but its not really open source | 22:16 |
| r0kk3rz | just a google anonymizer | 22:16 |
| trt` | ddg | 22:16 |
| r0kk3rz | duckduckgo | 22:17 |
| trt` | ok, i just opened the site | 22:17 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK: I had a look to add the SFOS icon have to do it this we ... hope I will do it | 22:20 |
| M4rtinK | Nokius: ok :) | 22:21 |
| M4rtinK | people hopefully didn't get too attached to the current one :) | 22:21 |
| Nokius | :D | 22:22 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, if anyone has a 3D printer at hand: http://modrana.org/openalt2014/3dprint/modrana_8mm.stl | 22:22 |
| M4rtinK | a 3D printable modRana logo :) | 22:22 |
| detrout | is there a way to setup a sailfish sdk outside of using the offline.run installer? | 22:22 |
| Nokius | M4rtinK: nope | 22:22 |
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| trt` | I installed yacy | 22:35 |
| trt` | do you use that M4rtinK ? | 22:35 |
| M4rtinK | just heard about it a while ago | 22:36 |
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| cvp_ | How can I add this and at the same time a small button in the colors which I can choose the color? http://www11.pic-upload.de/06.03.15/v2dkybofote9.png | 22:51 |
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| coderus | cvp_: no idea about circle, but you can use color selector from paint application by kimmoli: https://github.com/kimmoli/paint/blob/master/qml/components/ColorSelector.qml | 22:58 |
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| Nokius | coderus: yeap I missed that app ... sorry cvp_ | 23:01 |
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| Nokius | krobelus: ping | 23:03 |
| cvp_ | coderus, thanks, not what i want, but maybe a begin :) | 23:03 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, oh sorry, i dont see the other option , yes, this is now fine and what i want... | 23:06 |
| cvp_ | Nokius, hello \o :) | 23:09 |
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| Nokius | cvp_: Hi | 23:11 |
| bluszcz | hm, I have little issue with my app - it starts only first time after deploying. when i kill it and rerun from the phone screen - it does not start... what is recommded way to debug? | 23:11 |
| Nokius | gn8 | 23:11 |
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| bluszcz | ok, thats weird - I have reinstalled the app and restarted mobile - it works now | 23:15 |
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| coderus | bluszcz: :D | 23:43 |
| bluszcz | yeah, i suspect it is related with resource file | 23:43 |
| bluszcz | coderus: lovely surprises :D | 23:43 |
| coderus | bluszcz: to debug just run it from terminal and see output | 23:44 |
| bluszcz | coderus: btw, can I run apps from Jolla via ssh -X to show on my computer? | 23:46 |
| cvp_ | coderus, ... ^^ http://www11.pic-upload.de/07.03.15/4az4c3qcwu2b.png | 23:46 |
| coderus | bluszcz: no, jolla using wayland, not X | 23:47 |
| coderus | cvp_: yep | 23:47 |
| bluszcz | coderus: is there a way to have strace? | 23:48 |
| coderus | bluszcz: install strace and use it? | 23:50 |
| bluszcz | coderus: i guess :) i am pretty new sailfishos | 23:51 |
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| Nokius | cu | 23:56 |
| coderus | bluszcz: it not much differs, just suse based os with wayland based lipctick compositor | 23:56 |
| bluszcz | coderus: can you please share a link regarding terminal based package manager? if there is a something some repository like yum / apt or smth? | 23:57 |
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