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| tripanarium | sorry, may someone tell me the channel for SailfishOS porters? | 02:30 | 
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| ArtVandalae | #sailfishos-porters | 02:35 | 
| ArtVandalae | tripanarium, ^^ | 02:35 | 
| tripanarium | @ArtVandalae: Thx! | 02:36 | 
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| leszek | hmm... anyone got video/x-vp8 working ? I installed https://openrepos.net/content/larswad/gstreamer-1x-bad-extra-codecs-145 and libvpx but still gstreamer does not recognize this codec. "No decoder available for type 'video/x-vp8" error message | 12:29 | 
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| tbr | does anyone know if OBS sailfish:latest is supposed to build for x86? | 15:37 | 
| * tbr tried adding latest_i486 / i586 but it just says "unresolvable" to everything | 15:37 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ | 15:38 | 
| tbr | someone with a white-unicron™ asked me for x86 packages | 15:38 | 
| frinring | there is some sailfishos_latest_latest_i486 | 15:38 | 
| frinring | repo | 15:38 | 
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| frinring | but no idea if that is the right one, curious as well | 15:39 | 
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| M4rtinK_phone_ | AFAIK just the user frinly target selector is broken | 15:40 | 
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| * stephg wonders just how a unicron (white or otherwise) behaves | 15:40 | |
| M4rtinK_phone_ | and you can add the x86 target manually | 15:40 | 
| tbr | stephg: think dali clocks | 15:41 | 
| stephg | tbr: very melty. And now I want cheese :? | 15:42 | 
| tbr | :D | 15:42 | 
| frinring | on the topic of sailfish x86, are there some docs somewhere how to start the sfos emulator from latest sdk in tablet mode manually? | 15:43 | 
| Tofe | stephg: winter is coming. Eat melted cheese to survive. | 15:43 | 
| stephg | pfft Tofe every season is the season for melted cheese | 15:44 | 
| tbr | what's closer to sailfish? mer-next or mer-latest? | 15:46 | 
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| tbr | as all of the stuff I might need to build is headless I might as well build against generic core, just need to know which one | 15:47 | 
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| Stskeeps | latest | 15:49 | 
| tbr | tnx | 15:49 | 
| * MMx wonders if there are any white-unicrons around | 15:50 | |
| tbr | yes, they are forking as we speak | 15:51 | 
| tbr | Stskeeps: 486 or 586/atom? | 15:52 | 
| Stskeeps | i486 | 15:52 | 
| tbr | tnx | 15:52 | 
| MMx | tbr: great. ;) | 15:52 | 
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| * MMx wonders why the SailfishOS on the tablet ships a "mkfs.minix" | 16:20 | |
| * MMx can imagine though why there doesn't seem to be anything left of btrfs... :> | 16:22 | |
| Stskeeps | MMx: isn't it in util-linux? | 16:22 | 
| Stskeeps | and screw btrfs | 16:22 | 
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:22 | 
| MMx | Stskeeps: uh, I usually build by systems with buildroot and busybox. There, I have to enable every filesystem type individually - so no idea what might be the ""default"" | 16:23 | 
| MMx | s/by/my/ | 16:23 | 
| MMx | and yeah, I went through some btrfs-related pain with the phone, so... | 16:24 | 
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| MMx | .oO( otoh, the darn vendor kernel I have to use probably doesn't support btrfs at all and ext4 not good enough... so maybe I _should_ look into minix-fs after all ) | 16:30 | 
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| M4rtinK_phone_ | MMx: also take into account it has a card slot and iirc also usb otg | 16:33 | 
| M4rtinK_phone_ | so people might want to use it to manipulate arbitrary types of storage | 16:34 | 
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| MMx | M4rtinK_phone_: yes, sure, I was just surprised about that Minix-filesystem. Last time I met somebody who is actually using it was when Tenenbaum held his Minix-speech at FOSDEM a few years back. ;) | 16:37 | 
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| urjaman_ | iirc the linux minix driver (and mkfs.minix) doesnt even work with the actual minix 2 fs... or maybe i misremember | 16:40 | 
| MMx | :) | 16:41 | 
| MMx | OTG... good point, I have to test that | 16:42 | 
| MMx | would help with things like reading out my DSLR's CF card | 16:42 | 
| MMx | or even the compact camera's full-size SD | 16:43 | 
| urjaman_ | but yeah i'd be slightly more surprised if the minix fs was enabled in the kernel (but not too surprised...) but the userspace util just keeps getting to everywhere :P | 16:43 | 
| MMx | yes, I know that problem | 16:44 | 
| MMx | that's why I use buildroot for real™ embedded Linux, not Debian or similars | 16:44 | 
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| coderus | oh cool, quickactions arent hardcoded! https://openrepos.net/content/markkyboy/quickaction-create-contact | 19:18 | 
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| Acce | cool :) | 19:47 | 
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| TemeV | oh, nice. Maybe I can change that stupid "take a selfie" to "take a photo" | 20:19 | 
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| sakustar | you should take a selfie teme | 20:29 | 
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| TemeV | nope, I can't anymore. I already changed the quick action to "take a picture" | 20:31 | 
| TemeV | and it opens the rear camera | 20:31 | 
| Never | I there anywhere a documentation/github/sourcecode for Jolla's calender? | 20:32 | 
| TemeV | Never: I guess the open source parts are all here: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/nemo-qml-plugin-calendar | 20:33 | 
| Never | thanks! | 20:34 | 
| TemeV | that is just the qml plugin though, UI is closed. But the UI is mostly qml so you can find it in /usr/share/jolla-calendar in the device | 20:35 | 
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| Never | I don't need the qml parts, because I just need to find out why all my calendar entries got deleted today :D | 20:37 | 
| Never | diggin in the sqlite database right now | 20:37 | 
| TemeV | If you sync it somewhere, my bet is the problem is not in the calendar parts | 20:39 | 
| TemeV | you have to look in buteo or something. I'm not familiar with that stuff | 20:40 | 
| Never | Well .. not really syncing. I added a new calendar sync today. After doing that, all entries in my _personal/no-sync/default calendar got deleted | 20:40 | 
| TemeV | ok, that's really weird | 20:40 | 
| Never | https://together.jolla.com/question/122751/personal-calendar-emptied-after-adding-caldav/ | 20:40 | 
| Never | yes | 20:40 | 
| TemeV | I'd still guess it is the sync stuff messing thigs up. Not sure though | 20:43 | 
| TemeV | *things | 20:43 | 
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| Acce | TemeV: quick guide on changing the action? just punching some qml? | 20:54 | 
| coderus | \usr\share\lipstick\quickactions\ | 20:54 | 
| Acce | coderus: thanks | 20:55 | 
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| M4rtinK | wow, just got monav-light based offline routing working in modRana | 23:19 | 
| M4rtinK | and it's lightning fast | 23:19 | 
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| M4rtinK | tens of ms even for routes long hundreds of km | 23:20 | 
| pavi | M4rtinK: great | 23:20 | 
| M4rtinK | on PC for now | 23:20 | 
| pavi | M4rtinK: tiles ? | 23:20 | 
| M4rtinK | but even if it took a magnitude more on the Jolla it is still super fast | 23:20 | 
| M4rtinK | pavi: offline tile rendering is not yet ready :) | 23:20 | 
| M4rtinK | pavi: but some preliminary work has been done for storing the vector data needed for that | 23:21 | 
| pavi | M4rtinK: what does a user do with routing if there are no tiles ? use an imaginary base map | 23:21 | 
| M4rtinK | also planed - built in support for downloading offline routing data | 23:21 | 
| pavi | like go forward in this street . I guess it would work atleast for me :P | 23:22 | 
| M4rtinK | for now you can preload tiles | 23:22 | 
| M4rtinK | also in many cases the instructions should be enough | 23:22 | 
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| pavi | ok preloading tiles on a road trip is a cool idea. Then we could use offline routing when we are lost ;) | 23:22 | 
| M4rtinK | modRana actually has a batch downloader built in | 23:23 | 
| M4rtinK | it is just not yet exposed in the Qt 5 UI | 23:23 | 
| M4rtinK | (batch tile downloader) | 23:23 | 
| pavi | the osm system would cut off tile downloads | 23:23 | 
| M4rtinK | it does not ;-) | 23:23 | 
| M4rtinK | trust me | 23:23 | 
| M4rtinK | I did quite a lot of testing | 23:23 | 
| pavi | Vector is the future. But osmand is a horrible renderer , hate it ! | 23:23 | 
| M4rtinK | well, it is certainly one of the most advanced ones | 23:24 | 
| M4rtinK | but I had some stability issues with it when I tried it on my Jolla | 23:24 | 
| pavi | It is very slow even on good hardware | 23:24 | 
| M4rtinK | and the UI is not very good | 23:24 | 
| M4rtinK | at least IMHO | 23:24 | 
| M4rtinK | I also don't like how it is tied to Android | 23:25 | 
| pavi | UI is least of my worries, I just cant use it . | 23:25 | 
| M4rtinK | if you can write Python | 23:25 | 
| pavi | Modrana is much better | 23:25 | 
| M4rtinK | you can help me with a renderer for modRana :) | 23:25 | 
| M4rtinK | thanks! :) | 23:25 | 
| pavi | http://modrana.org/ says forbidden , any issue with the site ? | 23:27 | 
| M4rtinK | checking | 23:28 | 
| M4rtinK | same here | 23:29 | 
| M4rtinK | looks like an issue with the server where it is hosted: https://nlp.fi.muni.cz/ | 23:30 | 
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| M4rtinK | they unfortunately sometimes have issues like this | 23:30 | 
| M4rtinK | but other than that their hosting is really really nice | 23:30 | 
| M4rtinK | it would be rather difficult to host the 130+ GB of offline routing data without them | 23:31 | 
| pavi | ohh ok | 23:31 | 
| pavi | routing data is quite big | 23:32 | 
| M4rtinK | I have quite sophisticated setup for generating it | 23:32 | 
| M4rtinK | using one of their servers I got access to | 23:32 | 
| M4rtinK | input is the ~30 GB planet.osm file | 23:33 | 
| M4rtinK | output is the 130+ of global offline routing data | 23:33 | 
| M4rtinK | 130+ GB | 23:33 | 
| pavi | yeah thats what I was asking . How come it increased ? Shouldnt it decrease ? | 23:33 | 
| M4rtinK | the server has 45 logical CPUs and 256 GB RAM | 23:33 | 
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| M4rtinK | and the updated takes about 30 hours | 23:34 | 
| pavi | planet uncompressed should also be large | 23:34 | 
| M4rtinK | from that 25 hours for splitting the planet to continents and then regions (using polygons files from Geofabrik) | 23:34 | 
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| M4rtinK | *polygon | 23:34 | 
| M4rtinK | and about 5 hours for the processing itself | 23:35 | 
| M4rtinK | yeah | 23:35 | 
| M4rtinK | the whole splitting is running on uncompressed pbf files | 23:35 | 
| M4rtinK | and requires a couple hundred GB of storage to complete | 23:36 | 
| pavi | yeah | 23:36 | 
| M4rtinK | if you want to setup your own instance: | 23:36 | 
| M4rtinK | https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana-data-repository | 23:36 | 
| M4rtinK | :) | 23:36 | 
| M4rtinK | I made it very configurable so it can easily be run even on a desktop & for smaller regions/smaller number of regions | 23:37 | 
| pavi | So how do I install latest modrana ? | 23:41 | 
| pavi | is there a build ? | 23:41 | 
| pavi | or should it be compiled and packaged for sailfishos ? | 23:41 | 
| M4rtinK | the latest released build is in OpenRepos & Harbor | 23:44 | 
| M4rtinK | pavi: or if your are feeling adventurous you can just clone it from git and run it :) | 23:45 | 
| M4rtinK | git clone https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana | 23:45 | 
| M4rtinK | cd run | 23:45 | 
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| M4rtinK | ./sailfish.sh | 23:45 | 
| M4rtinK | correction: | 23:45 | 
| M4rtinK | ./sailfish | 23:45 | 
| M4rtinK | but at the moment there are no new commits since the release tag | 23:46 | 
| M4rtinK | but there should be soon once I get the monav-light based offline routing support to a commitable shape :) | 23:46 | 
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