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| brucebanner | hi, anybody online? | 03:13 |
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| maheart | yes, please ask your question, and I'm sure someone will eventually answer it | 04:08 |
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| brucebanner | are you here kimmoli? | 06:51 |
| kimmoli | yes | 06:51 |
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| brucebanner | kimmoli really sorry i haven't been online at the same time as youlately | 06:56 |
| brucebanner | but anyway, i hope you've seen the questions i've posted? | 06:56 |
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| kimmoli | i have seen some yes, but i don't really know how to help, and what you are trying to achieve. | 07:14 |
| kimmoli | if your memory is full, delete some stuff. | 07:15 |
| kimmoli | if it does not give you free space, then i have no idea what is happening. | 07:15 |
| kimmoli | adding a sd card to phone, in sailfish, it is not automatically used as storage (for photos and stuff) | 07:16 |
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| brucebanner | is it possible to PM on freenode? | 07:49 |
| Krikke | if not then you might need to register your nick | 07:51 |
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| Krikke | /msg NickServ | 07:51 |
| Krikke | @brucebanner | 07:52 |
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| irukandji | hi, probably you are sick of this questions but is there any way to get sailfish on samsung galaxy device, i am a bit sick of android | 07:54 |
| Krikke | then get an ipad | 07:55 |
| nh1402 | uuuuuurrrrrrhhhhhhh | 07:55 |
| irukandji | the cyanogen/lineage have good support for drivers so i was asking myself is there is some community project | 07:55 |
| nh1402 | there are a lot off Samsung galaxy devices, you have to be more specific | 07:55 |
| irukandji | omg, i have android phone as i was forced to choose between apple and google spyware :D | 07:55 |
| Krikke | I think sony is only one offering | 07:55 |
| nh1402 | irukandji: which device? | 07:56 |
| irukandji | Ok, with android i have at least modded it to the point where it cant send to google nothing (ok, i have still trouble with hidden syncs) | 07:56 |
| irukandji | galaxy s2/s5/s7edge | 07:56 |
| irukandji | edge prefered | 07:56 |
| nh1402 | irukandji: more specific | 07:57 |
| irukandji | not to mention that adaptation of sailfish would be far higher if some major phone vendor (samsung! :D :D :D) would be supported | 07:57 |
| nh1402 | which s7 edge, exynos or Qualcomm | 07:57 |
| irukandji | the international version... a moment, i forgot which cpu it has :D | 07:58 |
| irukandji | Exynos | 07:59 |
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| nh1402 | irukandji: in theory it's possible, but will require work | 08:05 |
| irukandji | as cyanogen did such a good work supporting galaxy phones (even fingerprint reader works O.o) i hoped that someone already did the work =/ | 08:06 |
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| brucebanner | nickserv | 08:06 |
| brucebanner | ?? | 08:06 |
| Krikke | yeah | 08:08 |
| Krikke | just pm it | 08:08 |
| Krikke | it's a bot | 08:08 |
| nh1402 | irukandji: that's only the beginning | 08:08 |
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| brucebanner | it says invalid command | 08:09 |
| brucebanner | do i type / nickserv msg username? is that the right format? | 08:10 |
| r0kk3rz | irukandji: basically the core piece of voodoo that makes it all possible doesnt work on exynos processors and nobody knows why | 08:10 |
| irukandji | what does it happen? | 08:11 |
| irukandji | (I am c/c++ system developer for 16 years) | 08:11 |
| Krikke | /msg NickServ | 08:11 |
| irukandji | (not really proficient in arm asembly but might be able to do some debugging/dissasembly) | 08:12 |
| r0kk3rz | irukandji: if you want to help, get in #sailfishos-porters and talk to people like sledges TheKit and krnlyng | 08:12 |
| irukandji | well, not that i have huge amounts of free time but i might try... :) | 08:14 |
| irukandji | thx | 08:14 |
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| brucebanner | still says invalid command | 08:32 |
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| ghosalmartin | yo, anyone use uber at all? or monzo? | 08:33 |
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| brucebanner | ok this PM thing isn't working | 08:38 |
| brucebanner | kimmoli how can i message you privately? | 08:38 |
| kimmoli | you have already, i just ignored it, as we talk here on channel | 08:43 |
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| brucebanner | ok well, unfortunately i have DC'd a few times and may not have seen your replies if you've replied to my question | 08:59 |
| brucebanner | kimmoli do you have any solution for the onyx memory problem? | 09:00 |
| kimmoli | i dont see any problem | 09:00 |
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| kimmoli | or i don't understand what it is, and what you are trying to achieve | 09:00 |
| brucebanner | well, the phone tells me i'm running out of space | 09:01 |
| kimmoli | simple solution would be to delete some stuff from your phone (?) | 09:02 |
| brucebanner | even tho i have installed that 64 GB sd card | 09:03 |
| brucebanner | well yea, but the main problem is that the SD card doesn't seem to actually expand the memory | 09:03 |
| kimmoli | that is true, it does not | 09:04 |
| brucebanner | AIDA64 says, rather strangely, that the phone's external memory and the phone's internal emory are both 11.54 GB | 09:04 |
| kimmoli | yes, it says that even without sd card. so dont trust it. | 09:05 |
| brucebanner | It's true? well, is it because of a bug? | 09:05 |
| kimmoli | its a bug in aids | 09:05 |
| kimmoli | aida | 09:05 |
| brucebanner | i se | 09:05 |
| brucebanner | *see | 09:05 |
| brucebanner | but nonetheless, the SD card doesn't actually make dfference? | 09:06 |
| brucebanner | with or without it, in the end, the onyx can only store 12 GB? | 09:06 |
| kimmoli | in the internal memory yes | 09:06 |
| kimmoli | sailfish does not really know how to utilise sd card | 09:06 |
| kimmoli | you can put your own stuff on the sdcard (music, media) | 09:07 |
| kimmoli | and you can make camera to store photos there instead of internal memory | 09:07 |
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| brucebanner | but if i try to, for exampe, play a 13 GB movie from the SD card, can i? | 09:08 |
| kimmoli | yes | 09:08 |
| brucebanner | so even if i take out the SD card right now, put something more than 13 GB into it and then put it back in, it'll still work? | 09:09 |
| brucebanner | even if the system settings tell me i have run out of space? | 09:09 |
| kimmoli | yes. sd card is shown as separate item in settings > storage | 09:09 |
| kimmoli | it has nothing to do with internal memory. | 09:10 |
| brucebanner | because the thing is | 09:10 |
| brucebanner | space inspector says | 09:11 |
| brucebanner | 6.8 gb of the 10.5 gb already used is in 'media' | 09:11 |
| kimmoli | yes, sd card is mounted under /media/ | 09:11 |
| brucebanner | and the only thing in media is sd card | 09:11 |
| kimmoli | take out your sdcard, reboot, and run space inspector again | 09:11 |
| brucebanner | so.. this is just another bug from space inspector | 09:12 |
| brucebanner | ok! i'll do just that. thanks kimmoli. i hope this will work | 09:13 |
| kimmoli | well, feature | 09:13 |
| kimmoli | it just tranverses directories | 09:13 |
| brucebanner | what do you mean? | 09:13 |
| kimmoli | space inspector does not care. it just looks folders and files | 09:14 |
| kimmoli | it does not know that /media/sdcard is sdcard | 09:14 |
| brucebanner | thanks a bunch kimmoli! | 09:14 |
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| brucebanner | kimmoli ok no | 09:24 |
| brucebanner | i've now taken out the sd card | 09:24 |
| brucebanner | and it stoll says 6.8 gb is being used by media | 09:24 |
| brucebanner | *still | 09:24 |
| brucebanner | the storage under the phone's native settings also says 11 gb is still being used | 09:25 |
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| kimmoli | ok, now check what is there in media folder | 09:25 |
| brucebanner | and finally, when i open /media/sdcard | 09:25 |
| brucebanner | all my files are still there | 09:25 |
| kimmoli | yes, so they are NOT in sdcard | 09:26 |
| brucebanner | when i open *using a file explorer | 09:26 |
| brucebanner | lol so where is the sd card then actually??? hahahaha!!! | 09:26 |
| kimmoli | /media/sdcard/ should have a folder that is like ABCD-1234 | 09:26 |
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| kimmoli | which is the card "unique identifier" or label or something | 09:27 |
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| kimmoli | /media/sdcard/ is a folder in phones internal memory | 09:27 |
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| brucebanner | sorry DC'd | 09:28 |
| kimmoli | the subfolder has different name for a different sdcard | 09:28 |
| brucebanner | pls send again | 09:28 |
| kimmoli | http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2017-07-07.log.html | 09:28 |
| brucebanner | i have a folder that says 08b617d8-7d4e | 09:28 |
| kimmoli | yeah something like tha | 09:28 |
| brucebanner | so i just need to transfer evrything into that? | 09:29 |
| kimmoli | insert your sdcard, then | 09:29 |
| kimmoli | :) | 09:29 |
| brucebanner | but anyway while my sd card is still out, if i wereto delete this folder now, would it regenerate? | 09:30 |
| brucebanner | sorry wait! there are two folders | 09:31 |
| brucebanner | one says 08b617d8-7d4e-4937-bbcc-6493c068eae1 | 09:32 |
| kimmoli | yes it will recreate it when you insert card | 09:32 |
| brucebanner | the other says 6D18-21D9 | 09:32 |
| kimmoli | check that it is empty | 09:32 |
| brucebanner | both are empty | 09:32 |
| kimmoli | you have used two different sd cards there then | 09:32 |
| brucebanner | i see so i should just delee both now and i'll transfer to whichever regemerates | 09:33 |
| brucebanner | *regenerates | 09:33 |
| kimmoli | for example. you can check that the filesystem actually works by storing there some dummy text file and see it persists | 09:33 |
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| brucebanner | will try! | 09:34 |
| kimmoli | put in sdcard, write it there, remove sd card, delete folder, insert sdcard | 09:34 |
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| brucebanner | ok now i've put te sd card back in | 09:39 |
| brucebanner | but neither folder has regenerated | 09:39 |
| brucebanner | native settings says the sd card is unmounted | 09:40 |
| kimmoli | rebooted or not? | 09:40 |
| brucebanner | i turned off the phone before putting the card back in | 09:40 |
| brucebanner | before turning it on again | 09:40 |
| brucebanner | i'm guessing.. that doesn't count as a reboot | 09:42 |
| brucebanner | lol ok i'll reboot now then | 09:42 |
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| kimmoli | define off? screen off? or completely off? | 09:43 |
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| brucebanner | ok i've rebboted the sd card is now mountedand i've changed permissions on the sd card to be 777 | 09:58 |
| brucebanner | and yet for some reason i can't copy the files from /media/sdcard/ to media/sdcard/unique identifier number | 09:58 |
| brucebanner | i can't cois | 10:00 |
| brucebanner | *i can't copy anything into the sd card | 10:00 |
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| kimmoli | what it complains? what filesystem is on your sdcard? | 10:02 |
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| kimmoli | try another? | 10:05 |
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| brucebanner | is it because the os hasn't mounted the card correctly? | 10:10 |
| brucebanner | i thought i had it formatted right the other day. set it to ext4 | 10:10 |
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| brucebanner | i can't even create a folder in it | 10:11 |
| kimmoli | which version of sailfish you had? | 10:13 |
| kimmoli | try chown nemo:nemo /media/sdcard/your-card-uid/. | 10:13 |
| kimmoli | brucebanner: ^ | 10:14 |
| brucebanner | will do | 10:14 |
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| brucebanner | thank you so much kimmoli, i got access to the card and have now transferred all the files | 10:58 |
| brucebanner | i am now only using 3.9 gb on my phone's internal storage! :D | 10:58 |
| brucebanner | but one more thing, what should i set the chmod to for /media/sdcard? | 10:59 |
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| kimmoli | ee. whatever you like. | 11:02 |
| brucebanner | what's the safest config | 11:09 |
| r0kk3rz | if you dont know, dont touch it? | 11:10 |
| brucebanner | lol i changed it because i wanted to try giving myself permission to write earlier | 11:11 |
| brucebanner | bu since chown was what did that, wat should chmod be lol | 11:11 |
| kimmoli | my uid folder is 755 | 11:14 |
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| brucebanner | anyway to livestream with SFOS? | 12:50 |
| brucebanner | *any way | 12:50 |
| brucebanner | none? | 12:57 |
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| iluminator105 | what to do if you sailfish os phone is missing or is stolen? | 15:02 |
| r0kk3rz | cry | 15:05 |
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| Lieke | no, light the bat-signal | 15:06 |
| fledermaus | ? | 15:06 |
| Lieke | :D | 15:06 |
| Smar | or switch blue storm lantern on | 15:08 |
| iluminator105 | no what i am asking is there way to find out if its turned on where it is | 15:26 |
| leszek | iluminator105: there is no such software by default | 15:28 |
| mal | in theory jolla might see in some server logs if the device has tried to connect to jolla store | 15:29 |
| mal | but no way to see where it is | 15:30 |
| leszek | such a software built in would mean high risk of abuse | 15:30 |
| leszek | mal: this would be just a random ip | 15:30 |
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