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| rubdos[ma] | abranson/abr could it be that rockpoold needs a change in order to support pin.layout.{headers,paragraphs}? https://developer.rebble.io/developer.pebble.com/guides/pebble-timeline/pin-structure/index.html#layout-object | 06:58 |
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| abr | rubdos[ma]: where would they be used? | 07:05 |
| rubdos[ma] | in a Ruby script that I just wrote :'-) | 07:06 |
| rubdos[ma] | I'm showing the menu of our University's restaurant in them | 07:06 |
| rubdos[ma] | If it's indeed that rockpool should support them separate from libpebble, I'll gladly drop you a PR for that | 07:07 |
| abr | ok, i see they're not used in notifications or reminder, so I guess it would just be new api for apps running on the phone side? | 07:07 |
| rubdos[ma] | yes indeed | 07:08 |
| abr | cool! | 07:08 |
| abr | I have a couple of improvements i'm trying to get around to on that. I want to migrate it to use the new WebView control instead of the broken old webkit, and I want to add a picker to upload firmware to the watch, because we can't initialize watches right now | 07:16 |
| rubdos[ma] | I truly don't recall how I ever had my watch initialised | 07:22 |
| rubdos[ma] | Also, I'm not sure how to link to rebble.io | 07:22 |
| abr | yeah, that's why i think it would be easier just to be able to choose the firmware with a file picker instead | 07:25 |
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| kirvesAxe | mal, pketo any decisions yet on possibly migrating to libera? | 16:19 |
| mal | no decisions as far as I know, there was talk about libera vs oftc | 16:20 |
| Nico-old-defunct | So far I like oftc. It is pretty calm, but also a bit old. Otoh, isn't Sailfish too? :D | 17:46 |
| attah | boo ;) | 17:53 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Boo what? :D | 17:56 |
| attah | Fair enough... parts are kinda old | 17:58 |
| attah | But seems the last years have been picking up a lot of the debt | 17:58 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Are you talking about Sailfish or oftc now? | 18:01 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I can't tell :D | 18:01 |
| attah | sailfish... i live under a rock, remember? I had no idea freednode had split in the past | 18:02 |
| Nico-old-defunct | right | 18:02 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Well, yeah, oftc has also been modernising | 18:03 |
| Nico-old-defunct | But you know, it still doesn't feel as hectic as other operating systems | 18:03 |
| Nico-old-defunct | And I like that | 18:03 |
| attah | That's amazing | 18:03 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I mean, smaller parts get redesigned and stuff | 18:03 |
| attah | And i don't really see that going away fortunately | 18:04 |
| Nico-old-defunct | But it's not like the whole OS just changes looks and most gestures still work | 18:04 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Yeah :D | 18:04 |
| attah | Imo, the reddesign was all for the better | 18:04 |
| attah | ...with an odd choice or three, and a bit of polishing left | 18:04 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Yeah, most stuff has had at least good intentions | 18:05 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I do sometimes struggle with the new call dialog though. Something about the swipe feedback is not quite right | 18:05 |
| attah | i just give it a good flick, not even really looking | 18:05 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I can't quite put my finger on it though :D | 18:06 |
| attah | feels quite natural by now | 18:06 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I guess that works | 18:06 |
| Nico-old-defunct | It just sometimes seems to lag and I think I messed up? | 18:06 |
| attah | now *that* is an issue in touch-based interfaces | 18:06 |
| Nico-old-defunct | lol | 18:06 |
| attah | (not being able to put your finger on it) | 18:06 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I mean, there is some magic touch stuff out there, where you just swipe in the air, but that seems to be a bit frickly too :3 | 18:07 |
| attah | wel, i'm mostly not looking (closely), so haven't thought about lag | 18:07 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I often get a call while I have been playing around with the browser or so and then I notice it | 18:08 |
| attah | I don't think we need more ways to interact with the phone really... but i'd also love to be proven wrong in that | 18:08 |
| Nico-old-defunct | So it could just be the browser taking too much CPU :D | 18:08 |
| attah | it's a bit of a hog... but performance is really nice now | 18:08 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Yeah, I think Sailfish has about the right amount of gestures. More complexity would be too complex for me :3 | 18:08 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I love that I can close most popups now! | 18:09 |
| attah | and ESR-78 for 4.2 by the looks of it | 18:09 |
| Nico-old-defunct | With those version numbers, it always seems like sailfish is so far behind... But it is "just" a year or one ESR behind or so, I think | 18:10 |
| Nico-old-defunct | The numbers are just moving too fast :D | 18:10 |
| attah | that's about right | 18:10 |
| attah | It will probably still be in support when we get it | 18:10 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Weeee! | 18:10 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Exciting times! | 18:10 |
| Nico-old-defunct | By the speed of it, I think we will actually mostly catch up and then just lag by about half a year, which I would consider totally acceptable | 18:11 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Since releases are only every few months anyway | 18:11 |
| attah | s/acceptable/good/ | 18:12 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Yeah | 18:12 |
| attah | That's lie some commercial distros even probably | 18:12 |
| attah | +k | 18:12 |
| Nico-old-defunct | It's better than debian! | 18:13 |
| attah | lol | 18:13 |
| attah | I base my OS on non-preferences really | 18:13 |
| Nico-old-defunct | As long as most websites work, I actually don't care that much about the browser version :3 | 18:14 |
| mal | attah: other than Qt what is old in sfos? | 18:19 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Oh, did I hear Qt update? :D | 18:19 |
| attah | mal: that's really the only thing that comes to mind | 18:20 |
| attah | there used to be loads of optional packages that were ancient, like CUPS, but i must admit i haven't checked | 18:20 |
| attah | CUPS got sorted last i heard | 18:21 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I mean, I have Qt update, everything open source apart from the paid addons, LTE calling and a few harbour APIs on my wishlist. | 18:21 |
| mal | attah: I updated cups about a year ago, it was ancient before that | 18:21 |
| Nico-old-defunct | But I can wait and it is not that pressing :3 | 18:21 |
| attah | Now we have SeaPrint, so it matters much less :P | 18:21 |
| Nico-old-defunct | (I would be happy to have it though!) | 18:21 |
| mal | attah: yeah, not sure if some part of new cups could have made that easier to do | 18:22 |
| attah | nope, definitely not... very happy i decided to stay clear of it | 18:22 |
| attah | so you could say it even helped a bit | 18:22 |
| mal | ok | 18:23 |
| Nico-old-defunct | We also got other stuff recently, like renewed OBS support, which is lovely! | 18:23 |
| attah | Interacting with IPP directly is actually easier than the CUPS api imo | 18:23 |
| attah | and they hadn't added AirPrint properly back then even on master | 18:24 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Oh, nice, SDK update! | 18:27 |
| attah | Now that GPL3 utilities are sorted too (in a manner), it's really quite nice for general "linuxing" | 18:27 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I've been using Sailfish to remote into servers since I bought it, so it was always okayish at it :D | 18:28 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I don't even know what I am missing in most cases, if I am using an older version of a util ._. | 18:28 |
| attah | ... until it just derps | 18:29 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Usually that is when I notice, that I am using busybox :D | 18:29 |
| attah | True, that's often worse | 18:29 |
| attah | But i did have old bash bite me for something a few years back | 18:30 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Wait, this is not bash, this is ash! | 18:30 |
| Nico-old-defunct | I used to use zsh on sailfish .-. | 18:30 |
| attah | how do you know people use zsh, vi, arch? they tell you ;) | 18:31 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Hey, in this context it made sense! | 18:31 |
| attah | Yeah.. just joking around | 18:31 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Also, I don't use arch, I use Gentoo... | 18:31 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Ups | 18:31 |
| attah | lol | 18:32 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Now I hope the next Sailfish update fixes my tracker bug :3 | 18:33 |
| attah | mal: I see i could have phrased things better... my comment should have read "been paying off a lot of debt" What you guys do is basically rocket science, and that's from someone that works in 5G | 18:56 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Does 5G work in space? | 19:05 |
| attah | Probably quite well | 19:06 |
| attah | Higher frequencies don't like... things | 19:06 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Well, put it on a rocket then and call it rocket science! | 19:06 |
| Nico-old-defunct | Oh right, you can't turn the wrong way with 5G, I remember :D | 19:07 |
| attah | It's not all higher frequencies... but it does help to make use of them | 19:07 |
| Nico-old-defunct | :D | 19:08 |
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