Monday, 2025-10-27

piggz[m]Nephros: looking at the deps for neochat.... Kunifiedpush might me a genuinely useful lib for sfos07:48
nephrospiggz[m]: okay may look into that. main blocker is quotient which needs the newer gcc.07:57
nephrosI patched a couple of things- but it's a bit cat and mouse.07:57
FireFlyuhh I did something a lil silly (grep -r for a string in /, as user) and my phone seems to have frozen a bit harder than I thought was possible..09:56
FireFlyby which I mean the screen is frozen, remains on, holding down power button for however long doesn't do anything and I don't see any indication from the status LED that the usual watchdog seems to be kicking in or so09:57
FireFlyexciting way to start the day09:57
FireFlyI wonder if reading something in procfs or sysfs made it Very Unhappy09:59
KetoFireFly: which device?10:01
FireFlyxperia 10ii10:01
FireFlyshould be on 5.0.0.6710:02
Ketoiirc, holding down volume up and power key will do a forced power off10:02
FireFlythat did the trick, with forcing it to reboot, thanks!10:03
FireFlyI'm somewhat morbidly curious still what would cause that tbh, but probably not enough to experiment currently10:03
Ketothat is quite interresting behavior indeed...10:05
FireFlyah darn, no persistent journal10:05
Ketobut trying to read absolutely everything probably will do weird things and could triger who knows what...10:08
KetoI assume you did it as root?10:09
FireFlyno, as unprivileged user10:09
FireFlywhich is what surprised me--I expected permission errors but not really anything like that taking effect10:09
Ketooh, that is not good...10:10
KetoI'll try that out at somepoint to see what's going on, do ping me if you happen to investigate it further and find something10:12
FireFlysure thing10:12
piggz[m]Keto, i was going to request store access for 2 more devices, until i ran ssu s, and it reported back as unknown/unknown :D10:39
nephrosFireFly: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/reliable-crash-sfos-through-grep-command/1006911:29
nephros^^^ there's the bug report, apparently "tracked", and some user analysis done.11:29
nephrosalthough in that case it causes a reboot instead of a hang.11:30
Ketonephros: thanks for digging that up11:40
FireFlygood to know I'm not the only one being that silly I guess :p11:44
FireFlybut yeah, thanks for the pointer11:45
Ketodoing that kind of grep might be silly, but the result and the implications not so much. I have bumped our internal tracking bug about this12:10
nephrosKeto: while it't probably unrelated, it there a reason both debugfs and tracefs are always mounted on SFOS?15:29
KetoI'm not sure15:30
Ketosome android hal things might require them, for example on x10ii /system/etc/init/wifi-events.rc writes in /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/15:43
Ketothough might also be that that is not really needed and could be disabled15:46
Ketomasking sys-kernel-debug.mount does not seem to break anything obvious16:04
Ketothe somewhat good news is that sandboxed applications can't trigger the crash as their access to /sys is limited17:03

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