| joff | hi all, someone have apply this patch for sony Xperia 10 II to have A-GPS more fast to find position With 4G/5G and Wifi ? | 12:45 |
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| joff | https://coderus.openrepos.net/pm2/project/x10ii-iii-agps-config-emea | 12:45 |
| nephros_ | joff_: I'd recommend not trying to use that, nor anything else published by that user. | 13:33 |
| nephros_ | And, as noted in the "patch" description, if at all it should not be used through patchmanager, but its manual install preocedure used instead. | 13:34 |
| nephros_ | The author of that patch had some skills, but was generally rather confused how things work on Sailfish OS. | 13:36 |
| joff_ | ok, but if someone know how to update & upgrade GPS to have better precision | 13:37 |
| nephros_ | joff_: About gpg, no it is not currently possible to *en*crypt emails. | 13:38 |
| joff_ | ok, but to have more precision with A-GPS ? | 13:39 |
| nephros_ | There's some "beta" type support for *de*crypting, if you install jolla-email-crypto-gnupg | 13:41 |
| nephros_ | But as we have a very old gnupg version, the results may not be satisfactory. | 13:41 |
| mal | joff_: A-GPS doesn't really provide more precision but only makes getting initial location faster | 13:42 |
| joff_ | i tried this, yes :) | 13:42 |
| joff_ | mal : ok, do you know how to do this exactly ? | 13:42 |
| joff_ | A-GPS | 13:42 |
| mal | which device? | 13:42 |
| joff_ | sony xperia 10 II | 13:43 |
| mal | I need to check if that is affected by one issue that solved recently | 13:43 |
| joff_ | ok | 13:43 |
| joff_ | i will try what you give to me about VoLTE and call | 13:44 |
| mal | what do you mean? | 13:45 |
| joff_ | you give me some changes to do for a problem about VoLTE and other functionnality about do a call / receive mms, ... | 13:46 |
| joff_ | i will check in logs and try to send log for you | 13:47 |
| joff_ | "It's when VoLTE option for call is enable than sms not sending. Sorry" | 13:47 |
| joff_ | THE Tab : https://debian-facile.org/images/file-Rfd0b3f46501c70fd50039984878def86 | 13:48 |
| joff_ | mal : the latest point is usb modem mode , how it's possible to do this ? a package is needed ? as usb-moded-host-mode-jolla | 13:51 |
| joff_ | mal : where add -d to debug ? OFONO_ARGS=--noplugin=\ | 14:00 |
| mal | what are you debugging? | 14:03 |
| mal | ah, the sms issue | 14:03 |
| joff__ | mal : here is the log with VoLTE enable and sms outgoing problem. | 14:08 |
| joff__ | https://debian-facile.org/paste-A7C5845FAF-1a1cc69cf34115cbc6755d2cf9df43a4 | 14:08 |
| joff__ | have you an idea about this problem ? | 14:08 |
| joff__ | afk | 14:25 |
| joff | mal : yes, that's right ! | 14:46 |
| joff | someone know how to have modem-usb working on sony xperia 10 II ? | 14:47 |
| mal | joff: do you see something from ofono which mentions "pdu_len" ? | 14:55 |
| joff | no, just this same messages mal | 15:11 |
| joff | with you're command | 15:11 |
| mal | joff: I think the issue really is what I think it is | 15:12 |
| joff | ok, how fix it ? with a patch ? | 15:13 |
| mal | it needs to the patched in the code, I will include the fix in next release | 15:14 |
| mal | the code is closed source | 15:14 |
| joff | where it will be pushed ? | 15:15 |
| joff | When sorry | 15:15 |
| mal | I think there is plan to make a new 5.0 bugfix release quite soon, not sure about exact date yet | 15:15 |
| joff | hum, okey :/ | 15:16 |
| joff | thanks | 15:16 |
| mal | thanks for the log, that helped a lot | 15:16 |
| joff | mal , do you know how have usb-modem ? | 15:16 |
| joff | no problem, it's mine | 15:17 |
| mal | that sms issue you have seems to be rare operator specific case, most operators do things differently | 15:17 |
| joff | okey, bouygues telecom only ? or SFR, Orange, free ? | 15:17 |
| mal | not sure but sms works for most other people | 15:19 |
| joff | Do you know how have usb-modem functionnality ? | 15:19 |
| mal | I don't know what you mean by that? what functionality? | 15:20 |
| joff | internet sharing for laptop by USB from sony xperia | 15:20 |
| mal | so you have the connection in your phone and you want to share it for laptop to use? | 15:20 |
| joff | yes, right | 15:21 |
| mal | I think in most cases wifi hotspot is used, need to see if sharing via usb is possible | 15:21 |
| joff | ok, the last question is, hox to have more precision with GPS ? and how to have A-GPS ? | 15:22 |
| mal | manually sharing connection could work a bit like this but the opposite way https://hadk.sailfishos.org/getting-in/#get-connected that makes sailfish device to use network of laptop via usb, maybe the other way is also possible if you run similar commands on the opposite way | 15:25 |
| joff | mal : thanks for search this | 15:27 |
| joff | mal, last question : "How to have more precision with GPS ? and how to have A-GPS ?" | 15:28 |
| joff | another choose important, very often, my device wakeup and show notifications. | 15:31 |
| joff | These notifications show me : disconnect, connect to a server | 15:31 |
| joff | i can try to give log for you | 15:32 |
| mal | gps precision is what it is, depends on place and how many satellites are seen | 15:32 |
| joff | ok, but speed localisation can be enable ? | 15:33 |
| mal | it might be improved, there are some fixes coming which affect some devices, those will probably be in next release | 15:36 |
| joff | most connection/disconnection affect android app, have you already seen that ? | 15:37 |
| mal | joff: which apps cause those? | 15:40 |
| joff | conversations | 15:42 |
| joff | element | 15:42 |
| joff | home-assistant | 15:42 |
| mal | I haven't noticed that with element app, unless Xperia 10 II behaves differently, I use Xperia 10 III | 15:42 |
| joff | mal : i enter four command to have internet on my laptop -> this does't work | 15:46 |
| joff | i type this on my sony xperia | 15:46 |
| mal | you write half of those on laptop and half on phone | 15:47 |
| mal | but it might need some modification to those commands to handle differences on how sailfish and laptop works | 15:48 |
| joff | HOST = sony | 15:48 |
| joff | device = laptop | 15:48 |
| joff | ? | 15:49 |
| mal | yes, you might need to adjust some parts of those | 15:53 |
| joff_ | i'm asking if having sony xperia 10 III is good to have ? | 16:40 |
| joff_ | compared sony xperia 10 II | 16:40 |
| joff_ | and too : a date exist to have jolla phone with pre-order ? | 16:41 |
| joff_ | On Android app, When i do a call with element app, the sound is very low compared to conversations app on Android ! Why ? | 19:27 |
| pa | hi | 20:27 |
| pa | anyone selling a sailfishx license? | 20:27 |
| pa | or can suggest where to look? | 20:28 |
| attah | https://shop.jolla.com/ | 20:29 |
| attah | It's not like it is contraband and needs to be smuggled... | 20:29 |
| attah | you can just get it | 20:29 |
| pa | well i was wondering if there's any sort of 2nd hand market for those ) i'd want to test it on an F5122 | 20:30 |
| pa | see, not exactly a cutting edge hw | 20:30 |
| attah | They are not transferable (with all the dubious legality thereof) | 20:31 |
| pa | i se | 20:31 |
| attah | not even sold for that relic anymore | 20:31 |
| pa | ah | 20:32 |
| pa | bummer | 20:32 |
| pa | well then | 20:32 |
| pa | lineage it is | 20:32 |
| attah | and if you can find an image for it that's all you need | 20:32 |
| pa | well i wouldn't know where to look | 20:32 |
| attah | it's not like the licensed components are essential for trying | 20:33 |
| pa | what are the licensed components? | 20:33 |
| attah | and the Android App Support for XX is really outdated | 20:33 |
| pa | yea even Android 8 is too old | 20:33 |
| attah | SFOS Android App Support on the XX is like 4.whatver | 20:33 |
| pa | like the Jolla1 then | 20:34 |
| attah | yes | 20:34 |
| attah | XA2 is the first model for the new one | 20:34 |
| pa | is there a list of devices and android api level? | 20:34 |
| pa | like on SFX | 20:34 |
| attah | https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/ | 20:35 |
| pa | thanks | 20:35 |
| attah | And several (though not all) are due a 11->13 upgrade any week now | 20:36 |
| pa | so they do support sauna but with a different android api level than the newer phones? | 20:37 |
| attah | SFOS isn't Android, you just optionally have it in a container | 20:38 |
| pa | got it | 20:38 |
| attah | Apparently someone is hosting old versions https://download.rikudou.dev/SFOS_Images/by-device/f5122/ | 20:39 |
| attah | i take ZERO responsibility | 20:39 |
| pa | thanks :-) | 20:40 |
| pa | not the latest but should be fine to try | 20:41 |
| attah | Not sure when it was dropped, but you should be able to do an update or two | 20:41 |
| attah | apparently just one | 20:42 |
| pa | if it's not asking too much, is there any page with installation instructions? | 20:43 |
| pa | like for images like that | 20:43 |
| attah | https://jolla.com/sailfishxinstall/ | 20:43 |
| pa | thanks! | 20:44 |
| attah | At least the new downloads have text version included too | 20:44 |
| attah | Main difference will be what Android to start with, and what binaries to download - otherwise all instructions are pretty similar | 20:46 |
| attah | flashing script and/or text instructions should have that info | 20:47 |
| pa | thanks for the info :-) I might actually decide to risk it and try! (i had to decommission the F5122 anyway last summer, as most apps dropped support for Android8) | 20:50 |
| pa | much better device than the newer sonys | 20:51 |
| attah | nah. better relative to competition at the time | 20:51 |
| attah | not better in absolute terms | 20:51 |
| pa | i got an xz2 after, i hate it | 20:51 |
| attah | don't mind it - but the 10 series is nicer to use | 20:52 |
| pa | have been looking into xperia 5, apparently the only good one is the very latest, with peak complaints for IV | 20:52 |
| attah | only community ports for 1 & 5 | 20:53 |
| pa | ah interesting | 20:53 |
| attah | hopefully 10 V official release is coming at some point | 20:54 |
| pa | do bank apps work on latest SFX? | 20:54 |
| attah | been stuck in beta-land | 20:54 |
| attah | pretty random | 20:54 |
| pa | no play integrity? | 20:54 |
| attah | but app baking is retarded anyway | 20:54 |
| attah | lots of proper signing - not all silly secret-sauce checks go though | 20:55 |
| attah | let's call it 50:50 | 20:55 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | That would depend on the bank: | 20:56 |
| tuplasuhveli[m] | https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438 | 20:56 |
| pa | does revolut work? | 20:57 |
| pa | ok last one apparently not | 20:58 |
| pa | same issue i got on lineage | 20:58 |
| pa | thanksf or the link btw | 20:58 |
| pa | should be illegal to require specific phones for banking apps without web version | 20:59 |
| attah | yes, so don't blame sfos | 20:59 |
| pa | but then again.. so many others should be illegal and are legal, especially these days.. | 20:59 |
| attah | vote with your money - don't use them | 21:00 |
| pa | you telling me to get an iphone? | 21:00 |
| attah | no, don't use revolut and whatever incompetent hipster solutions | 21:01 |
| pa | ah | 21:01 |
| pa | eh.. if only there was a decent comparable alternative | 21:01 |
| attah | how many people are truly *that* international that fractions on exchange rate matters? | 21:02 |
| attah | and if you refuse to be the market for their competitors, how would there ever be? | 21:03 |
| pa | well i don't care much about exchange rate, but i use it for their virtual disposable cards, as well as occasionally pay subscription for their cash witdrawal across EU | 21:07 |
| attah | surely the former is available in many versions | 21:09 |
| attah | But i literally throw my debit card around just about everywhere and put paypal and such in-between where available - never had an issue | 21:10 |
| pa | well, paypal is definitely something you should not vote with your money :-) | 21:10 |
| pa | way more than revolut | 21:10 |
| attah | they are no worse than anyone else | 21:10 |
| attah | and they have web access | 21:11 |
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