08:05:14 <Stskeeps> #startmeeting Nemo bug triage meeting
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08:05:25 <Stskeeps> https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=need-triage&emailtype1=substring looks like a good list to go through?
08:05:38 <veskuh> yep
08:05:51 <Stskeeps> ok
08:06:03 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64 -  Update meegotouch-theme to the latest version
08:06:13 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64 -  Update meegotouch-theme to the latest version
08:06:27 <Stskeeps> we have problems with this as it has changed to no-deriatives?
08:06:42 <veskuh> Stskeeps: exactly
08:07:16 <Stskeeps> let me just see something
08:07:31 <Stskeeps> does this screw up base theme too or?
08:08:49 <Stskeeps> so there's http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-theme/commits/master (LGPL) and http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-theme-graphics/trees/master (CC ND)
08:09:18 <veskuh> Yes, theme and gfx files are under different license.
08:09:27 <Stskeeps> ok
08:09:55 <Stskeeps> -theme still get updates, something we can use?
08:10:11 <Sage_> btw, the older version of -graphics is under LGPL
08:10:12 <veskuh> the problem is that newer theme requires new gfx files
08:10:16 <Stskeeps> right
08:10:27 <Stskeeps> so we'd have to replace those parts with something open
08:10:38 <Stskeeps> do we know how much of a set this is?
08:11:44 <veskuh> My guess would be something like 10-20 new images for darko, based on brief testing of newer theme.
08:11:47 <Stskeeps> :nod:
08:11:52 <Stskeeps> so manageable
08:12:13 <Stskeeps> we should adjust this task to have a dependant task, upgrade darko to fit with new meegotouch-theme?
08:12:56 <veskuh> That would be solution for this.
08:13:00 <Stskeeps> alright
08:13:12 <Sage_> sounds good
08:13:22 <Stskeeps> we would see red spots in case of missing graphics, right?
08:13:30 <veskuh> Stskeeps: exactly
08:13:31 <Sage_> btw, we have bug for darko already about some missing graphics
08:13:33 <Stskeeps> if we upgraded meegotouch-theme
08:13:34 <Sage_> not sure if those are the same
08:14:04 <Sage_> see https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81
08:14:27 <Stskeeps> :nod:
08:14:36 <Stskeeps> so, we need to upgrade meegotouch-theme or at least provide a upgraded package of it
08:14:54 <Sage_> yes and fill the gaps in darko for the theme.
08:14:56 <Stskeeps> yep
08:15:18 <Stskeeps> so we can action on this bug finally, i guess
08:15:39 <Stskeeps> -> not-taken
08:15:45 <Sage_> I think so yes
08:15:53 <Stskeeps> ok, moving on then
08:16:04 <veskuh> prio?
08:16:11 <Sage_> needs to description changes probably
08:16:17 <Stskeeps> high prio?
08:16:24 <Sage_> or dep bug against darko/theme
08:17:35 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65 - https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65
08:17:38 <Stskeeps> err..
08:17:47 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65 - Remove top bar from settings application
08:18:16 <Stskeeps> this falls too when 64 works
08:18:24 <Sage_> it should yes
08:18:40 <Stskeeps> so move to not-taken
08:18:56 <Stskeeps> low prio as it should happen automatically?
08:19:41 <veskuh> yep
08:20:08 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89 - After installing package with Packages state is unknown
08:20:23 <Stskeeps> i assume this wasn't certificate related?
08:20:42 <Sage_> should not be as we have certs in our image now
08:20:46 <veskuh> No, that was with certs.
08:20:47 <Stskeeps> ok
08:22:00 <Stskeeps> do we have any idea why it happens? errors in xsession-errors/etc?
08:22:15 <Stskeeps> if it actually errors out on install scriptlets or something
08:22:20 <Sage_> It might be related to our zypp backend
08:22:44 <veskuh> No idea, it might be dependent on the UI code, since the app seems to get installed.
08:22:54 <Stskeeps> ok
08:23:01 <Sage_> veskuh: was it so even after app restart?
08:23:02 <Stskeeps> medium prio, not good UI?
08:23:33 <veskuh> Sage_:  Did not test that, will comment on the bug.
08:24:00 <Sage_> k
08:24:11 <Sage_> might be that only refresh of cache needed
08:24:26 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90 - Install option doesn't work from the boot menu
08:25:04 <Stskeeps> we might need to upgrade bootloader and so on i guess, it does work if booting and opening terminal and installer-shell?
08:25:20 <Sage_> yes
08:25:37 <Sage_> the problem with that is that it doesn't work nicely on exopc without keyboard
08:25:48 <Sage_> mainly because maliit bug
08:25:56 <Sage_> but it should work
08:26:00 <Stskeeps> did we get feedback on the keyboard issues?
08:26:15 <Sage_> I reported the bug upstream and it is still open
08:26:19 <Stskeeps> ok
08:27:56 <Stskeeps> medium, we should either improve instructions or remove the install option?
08:28:02 <Stskeeps> as it's broken
08:29:24 <Sage_> removing the install option would be ok IMO
08:29:28 <Stskeeps> ok
08:29:33 <Sage_> and then just guide that boot and do it via terminal
08:30:51 <veskuh> Should we change the title of bug to "remove broken install option from menu"?
08:31:48 <Sage_> sounds good to me
08:31:57 <Stskeeps> ok, moving on then
08:32:45 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91 - https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91
08:32:51 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91 - Wifi doesn't work on Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t
08:32:54 <Stskeeps> it's so monday..
08:33:51 <Stskeeps> i swear i've seen this work without a closed driver
08:34:04 <Stskeeps> or not
08:34:27 <Sage_> I haven't but would be nice to have it though
08:34:41 <Stskeeps> yeah.. not sure on licensing
08:34:53 <Stskeeps> it is a bit picky due it being a kernel module
08:35:12 <Stskeeps> NEEDINFO to figure out what debian feels about it?
08:35:27 <Stskeeps> as that's usually a good indicator of legal issues
08:36:03 <Stskeeps> (i have a s10-3t btw)
08:36:24 <w00t> not all of them had broadcom chips
08:36:43 <Stskeeps> i'm sure mine doesn't have atheros :)
08:36:50 <Sage_> I have s10-3t with atheros chip :/
08:36:53 <Stskeeps> but yes, it should be "lenovo with broadcom"
08:36:54 <Sage_> or well :)
08:37:58 <veskuh> prio?
08:38:31 <Stskeeps> low-medium?
08:38:50 <Stskeeps> as it's a typical meego-contributor target like exopc
08:39:20 <Sage_> medium
08:39:24 <veskuh> ok
08:39:39 <Stskeeps> (read: almost everyone who was in dublin has a s10-3t..)
08:39:39 <Stskeeps> :P
08:40:40 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92 - certain SD cards not initializing during kernel boot, causing every read to collapse with error -110
08:40:54 <Stskeeps> low, they're using this with an unsupported uboot which has been proven to cause a lot of crap to happen
08:41:17 <Stskeeps> ali1234 (original uboot port author) tried it out himself and it behaves much different than it ought to
08:42:27 <veskuh> why are they using non-standard u-boot?
08:42:35 * Sage_ agrees with low
08:42:48 <Stskeeps> fashion in the community in order to have a multiboot kind of thing, beyond dual boot
08:43:58 <veskuh> Hmm.. The problem is that these kind of hackers are the people that could help us with Nemo.. And we should show support
08:44:42 <Stskeeps> i'm not inclined to touch the issue because of the old situation we had when people combined overclock kernels and u-boot and got nokia care on our necks
08:44:49 <Stskeeps> so that's why i'm a bit resistant
08:45:26 <Stskeeps> also, the patch suggested is not terribly good (second one) :/
08:45:51 <Stskeeps> but yes, i agree with that notion
08:46:06 <Stskeeps> in this particular case their code is very likely at fault though
08:46:43 <veskuh> Yep, I'd agree on low
08:47:02 <veskuh> But for the bug itself, it would be good to have comments from you Stskeeps.
08:47:05 <Stskeeps> ok
08:47:13 <Stskeeps> i'll comment
08:48:56 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93 - Bug 93 - "About product" missing some characters in Contributors
08:49:08 <Stskeeps> bad encoding of the contributors file?
08:49:44 <veskuh> Stskeeps: yes probably, should be easy fix
08:49:46 <Stskeeps> ok
08:49:51 <Sage_> yes, maybe it should have html/xml encoding element or something? as it accepts html elements?
08:49:58 <Stskeeps> that may be it too
08:50:21 <Stskeeps> low/medium? we should attribute our heroes with proper encoding ;)
08:51:08 <veskuh> Low as it really requires some digging before you encounter this bug
08:51:57 <Stskeeps> ok
08:53:59 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94 - Hidden Wifi-network is forgotten after reboot
08:54:43 <veskuh> That is actually quite severe usability issue, I'd say high
08:54:51 <Stskeeps> does it happen with non-hidden too?
08:55:05 <Stskeeps> but yes
08:55:06 <Stskeeps> i agree
08:55:21 <veskuh> don't think so. At least for my visible network nemo remembers password.
08:55:24 <Stskeeps> ok
08:55:31 <Stskeeps> but it's not manually added
08:55:43 <veskuh> yep
08:56:10 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96 - Unable to mount Nemo-partition in Windows
08:56:14 <Stskeeps> this is pandora's box of problems
08:57:11 <Stskeeps> in maemo4/5/6, this was handled by having a seperate fat32 partition, MyDocs, which when mounted over USB, umounted the partition on the device, exported the raw partition over USB and signaled to apps on device that user documents are now inaccessible
08:58:35 <Stskeeps> it's heavy productization
08:59:21 <Stskeeps> MTP would to some extent solve this
08:59:26 <Sage_> MTP?
08:59:43 <Sage_> Media Transfer Protocol?
08:59:45 <Stskeeps> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
09:00:02 <Sage_> ok
09:00:13 <Sage_> well, we would need somekind of solution to this.
09:00:40 <Stskeeps> yes
09:00:45 <Stskeeps> low?
09:01:01 <Sage_> I would say so yes
09:01:39 <veskuh> Yes, even though this is important we have lot of issues to fix first
09:01:45 <Stskeeps> :nod:
09:01:53 <Stskeeps> #topic Wifi applet crases if there are special keys in network password - https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97
09:02:16 <Stskeeps> medium/high?
09:02:50 <veskuh> Well, that is invalid. connman had crashed for some reason and that is why wifi applet kept crashing
09:02:57 <Stskeeps> ah
09:02:58 <veskuh> So my testing was wrong
09:03:12 <Stskeeps> i really wonder if we can take tripzero's qml control panel from tablet ux
09:03:30 <veskuh> So either change that to wifiapplet crashes if connman is down or invalid and a new bug
09:03:33 <Sage_> Stskeeps: well that deps heavyly in meego qt compoents?
09:03:47 <Stskeeps> Sage_: well, not sure
09:03:54 <Stskeeps> Sage_: w00t did some ports originally of apps from there
09:04:19 <Sage_> oh, well sounds good. if it is doable.
09:04:44 <veskuh> I don't think it will work out. It is all or nothing for the control panels
09:05:00 <Stskeeps> ok
09:05:08 <veskuh> And it would pull in a lot of the meego-ux
09:05:09 <Stskeeps> probably a total rewrite needed?
09:05:22 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98 - Portrait support in TwimGo is not working
09:05:24 <veskuh> At some point we need total rewrite of control panel, yes.
09:05:38 <Stskeeps> twimgo author was who again?
09:05:52 <Sage_> should be easyfix IIRC (oneliner or something)
09:06:01 <Sage_> I think someone already mentioned a fix for this
09:06:14 <veskuh> Sage_: yes, xruxa did same fix for kasvopus
09:06:16 <Stskeeps> ok
09:06:18 <Sage_> something about removign hardcoded values.
09:06:27 <Sage_> veskuh: yes
09:06:32 <Stskeeps> ok
09:06:34 <veskuh> Sage_: exactly, there was fixed size I think
09:07:50 <Sage_> I can try to hunt that down.
09:08:07 <veskuh> prio?
09:08:38 <Stskeeps> low, cosmetic?
09:08:43 <Stskeeps> annoying, but cosmetic
09:08:44 <Sage_> medium as exopc?
09:09:18 <Stskeeps> mm
09:09:23 <veskuh> exopc?
09:09:47 <Sage_> on exopc it doesn't scale if it is hardocded?
09:09:56 <Stskeeps> ah
09:10:08 <Sage_> haven't tried but just an assumption
09:10:27 <veskuh> I think it scales but does not rotate, but I'm not sure.
09:11:00 <veskuh> Let's put medium to be sure?
09:11:01 <Sage_> ok could be that as well
09:11:51 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100 - Theme-layout is broken under USB-settings
09:13:04 <veskuh> low, cosmetic theme issue
09:13:07 <Sage_> this is caused by the fact that it is not desinged to be used in landscape
09:13:25 <Sage_> and yes low
09:13:33 <Stskeeps> ok
09:14:35 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101 -  Unable to enable Caps Lock
09:14:41 <Stskeeps> Maliit issue?
09:15:10 <Sage_> I would say so. assign/cc to araujo
09:17:08 <Stskeeps> low, caps lock is for shouting
09:17:26 <veskuh> yep :)
09:18:00 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102 - Unable to enable Num Lock
09:18:03 <Stskeeps> same area?
09:18:13 <veskuh> yep
09:18:15 <Sage_> :nod:
09:18:40 <Stskeeps> low or medium?
09:18:43 <Stskeeps> num lock.. phonenumbers
09:18:51 <Sage_> ?
09:18:56 <Sage_> we have numpad right?
09:19:11 <Stskeeps> think contacts
09:19:29 <Sage_> umm...
09:19:40 <Stskeeps> typing in a phonenumber in that context
09:19:46 <Stskeeps> anyway, not sure
09:19:47 <Stskeeps> :P
09:19:49 <Sage_> ?123 button on VKB and you have numbers
09:19:52 <Stskeeps> ok
09:19:55 <Stskeeps> but this is hw keyboard
09:20:00 <Sage_> aah.
09:20:10 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103 - Cannot use Video recording
09:20:11 <Sage_> ok well another story :)
09:20:21 <Stskeeps> we can't provide gst-dsp and codecs out of the box, low/medium?
09:21:11 <Sage_> we could provice gst-dsp probably but not codecs
09:21:14 <Sage_> provide*
09:21:14 <Stskeeps> :nod:
09:21:41 <Stskeeps> ok, that was last bug
09:23:50 <Stskeeps> thank you all for coming
09:23:52 <Stskeeps> #endmeeting