08:05:14 <Stskeeps> #startmeeting Nemo bug triage meeting 08:05:14 <MerBot> Meeting started Mon Feb 13 08:05:14 2012 UTC. The chair is Stskeeps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. 08:05:14 <MerBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 08:05:25 <Stskeeps> https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=need-triage&emailtype1=substring looks like a good list to go through? 08:05:38 <veskuh> yep 08:05:51 <Stskeeps> ok 08:06:03 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64 - Update meegotouch-theme to the latest version 08:06:13 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64 - Update meegotouch-theme to the latest version 08:06:27 <Stskeeps> we have problems with this as it has changed to no-deriatives? 08:06:42 <veskuh> Stskeeps: exactly 08:07:16 <Stskeeps> let me just see something 08:07:31 <Stskeeps> does this screw up base theme too or? 08:08:49 <Stskeeps> so there's http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-theme/commits/master (LGPL) and http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-theme-graphics/trees/master (CC ND) 08:09:18 <veskuh> Yes, theme and gfx files are under different license. 08:09:27 <Stskeeps> ok 08:09:55 <Stskeeps> -theme still get updates, something we can use? 08:10:11 <Sage_> btw, the older version of -graphics is under LGPL 08:10:12 <veskuh> the problem is that newer theme requires new gfx files 08:10:16 <Stskeeps> right 08:10:27 <Stskeeps> so we'd have to replace those parts with something open 08:10:38 <Stskeeps> do we know how much of a set this is? 08:11:44 <veskuh> My guess would be something like 10-20 new images for darko, based on brief testing of newer theme. 08:11:47 <Stskeeps> :nod: 08:11:52 <Stskeeps> so manageable 08:12:13 <Stskeeps> we should adjust this task to have a dependant task, upgrade darko to fit with new meegotouch-theme? 08:12:56 <veskuh> That would be solution for this. 08:13:00 <Stskeeps> alright 08:13:12 <Sage_> sounds good 08:13:22 <Stskeeps> we would see red spots in case of missing graphics, right? 08:13:30 <veskuh> Stskeeps: exactly 08:13:31 <Sage_> btw, we have bug for darko already about some missing graphics 08:13:33 <Stskeeps> if we upgraded meegotouch-theme 08:13:34 <Sage_> not sure if those are the same 08:14:04 <Sage_> see https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81 08:14:27 <Stskeeps> :nod: 08:14:36 <Stskeeps> so, we need to upgrade meegotouch-theme or at least provide a upgraded package of it 08:14:54 <Sage_> yes and fill the gaps in darko for the theme. 08:14:56 <Stskeeps> yep 08:15:18 <Stskeeps> so we can action on this bug finally, i guess 08:15:39 <Stskeeps> -> not-taken 08:15:45 <Sage_> I think so yes 08:15:53 <Stskeeps> ok, moving on then 08:16:04 <veskuh> prio? 08:16:11 <Sage_> needs to description changes probably 08:16:17 <Stskeeps> high prio? 08:16:24 <Sage_> or dep bug against darko/theme 08:17:35 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65 - https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65 08:17:38 <Stskeeps> err.. 08:17:47 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65 - Remove top bar from settings application 08:18:16 <Stskeeps> this falls too when 64 works 08:18:24 <Sage_> it should yes 08:18:40 <Stskeeps> so move to not-taken 08:18:56 <Stskeeps> low prio as it should happen automatically? 08:19:41 <veskuh> yep 08:20:08 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89 - After installing package with Packages state is unknown 08:20:23 <Stskeeps> i assume this wasn't certificate related? 08:20:42 <Sage_> should not be as we have certs in our image now 08:20:46 <veskuh> No, that was with certs. 08:20:47 <Stskeeps> ok 08:22:00 <Stskeeps> do we have any idea why it happens? errors in xsession-errors/etc? 08:22:15 <Stskeeps> if it actually errors out on install scriptlets or something 08:22:20 <Sage_> It might be related to our zypp backend 08:22:44 <veskuh> No idea, it might be dependent on the UI code, since the app seems to get installed. 08:22:54 <Stskeeps> ok 08:23:01 <Sage_> veskuh: was it so even after app restart? 08:23:02 <Stskeeps> medium prio, not good UI? 08:23:33 <veskuh> Sage_: Did not test that, will comment on the bug. 08:24:00 <Sage_> k 08:24:11 <Sage_> might be that only refresh of cache needed 08:24:26 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90 - Install option doesn't work from the boot menu 08:25:04 <Stskeeps> we might need to upgrade bootloader and so on i guess, it does work if booting and opening terminal and installer-shell? 08:25:20 <Sage_> yes 08:25:37 <Sage_> the problem with that is that it doesn't work nicely on exopc without keyboard 08:25:48 <Sage_> mainly because maliit bug 08:25:56 <Sage_> but it should work 08:26:00 <Stskeeps> did we get feedback on the keyboard issues? 08:26:15 <Sage_> I reported the bug upstream and it is still open 08:26:19 <Stskeeps> ok 08:27:56 <Stskeeps> medium, we should either improve instructions or remove the install option? 08:28:02 <Stskeeps> as it's broken 08:29:24 <Sage_> removing the install option would be ok IMO 08:29:28 <Stskeeps> ok 08:29:33 <Sage_> and then just guide that boot and do it via terminal 08:30:51 <veskuh> Should we change the title of bug to "remove broken install option from menu"? 08:31:48 <Sage_> sounds good to me 08:31:57 <Stskeeps> ok, moving on then 08:32:45 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91 - https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91 08:32:51 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91 - Wifi doesn't work on Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t 08:32:54 <Stskeeps> it's so monday.. 08:33:51 <Stskeeps> i swear i've seen this work without a closed driver 08:34:04 <Stskeeps> or not 08:34:27 <Sage_> I haven't but would be nice to have it though 08:34:41 <Stskeeps> yeah.. not sure on licensing 08:34:53 <Stskeeps> it is a bit picky due it being a kernel module 08:35:12 <Stskeeps> NEEDINFO to figure out what debian feels about it? 08:35:27 <Stskeeps> as that's usually a good indicator of legal issues 08:36:03 <Stskeeps> (i have a s10-3t btw) 08:36:24 <w00t> not all of them had broadcom chips 08:36:43 <Stskeeps> i'm sure mine doesn't have atheros :) 08:36:50 <Sage_> I have s10-3t with atheros chip :/ 08:36:53 <Stskeeps> but yes, it should be "lenovo with broadcom" 08:36:54 <Sage_> or well :) 08:37:58 <veskuh> prio? 08:38:31 <Stskeeps> low-medium? 08:38:50 <Stskeeps> as it's a typical meego-contributor target like exopc 08:39:20 <Sage_> medium 08:39:24 <veskuh> ok 08:39:39 <Stskeeps> (read: almost everyone who was in dublin has a s10-3t..) 08:39:39 <Stskeeps> :P 08:40:40 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92 - certain SD cards not initializing during kernel boot, causing every read to collapse with error -110 08:40:54 <Stskeeps> low, they're using this with an unsupported uboot which has been proven to cause a lot of crap to happen 08:41:17 <Stskeeps> ali1234 (original uboot port author) tried it out himself and it behaves much different than it ought to 08:42:27 <veskuh> why are they using non-standard u-boot? 08:42:35 * Sage_ agrees with low 08:42:48 <Stskeeps> fashion in the community in order to have a multiboot kind of thing, beyond dual boot 08:43:58 <veskuh> Hmm.. The problem is that these kind of hackers are the people that could help us with Nemo.. And we should show support 08:44:42 <Stskeeps> i'm not inclined to touch the issue because of the old situation we had when people combined overclock kernels and u-boot and got nokia care on our necks 08:44:49 <Stskeeps> so that's why i'm a bit resistant 08:45:26 <Stskeeps> also, the patch suggested is not terribly good (second one) :/ 08:45:51 <Stskeeps> but yes, i agree with that notion 08:46:06 <Stskeeps> in this particular case their code is very likely at fault though 08:46:43 <veskuh> Yep, I'd agree on low 08:47:02 <veskuh> But for the bug itself, it would be good to have comments from you Stskeeps. 08:47:05 <Stskeeps> ok 08:47:13 <Stskeeps> i'll comment 08:48:56 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93 - Bug 93 - "About product" missing some characters in Contributors 08:49:08 <Stskeeps> bad encoding of the contributors file? 08:49:44 <veskuh> Stskeeps: yes probably, should be easy fix 08:49:46 <Stskeeps> ok 08:49:51 <Sage_> yes, maybe it should have html/xml encoding element or something? as it accepts html elements? 08:49:58 <Stskeeps> that may be it too 08:50:21 <Stskeeps> low/medium? we should attribute our heroes with proper encoding ;) 08:51:08 <veskuh> Low as it really requires some digging before you encounter this bug 08:51:57 <Stskeeps> ok 08:53:59 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94 - Hidden Wifi-network is forgotten after reboot 08:54:43 <veskuh> That is actually quite severe usability issue, I'd say high 08:54:51 <Stskeeps> does it happen with non-hidden too? 08:55:05 <Stskeeps> but yes 08:55:06 <Stskeeps> i agree 08:55:21 <veskuh> don't think so. At least for my visible network nemo remembers password. 08:55:24 <Stskeeps> ok 08:55:31 <Stskeeps> but it's not manually added 08:55:43 <veskuh> yep 08:56:10 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96 - Unable to mount Nemo-partition in Windows 08:56:14 <Stskeeps> this is pandora's box of problems 08:57:11 <Stskeeps> in maemo4/5/6, this was handled by having a seperate fat32 partition, MyDocs, which when mounted over USB, umounted the partition on the device, exported the raw partition over USB and signaled to apps on device that user documents are now inaccessible 08:58:35 <Stskeeps> it's heavy productization 08:59:21 <Stskeeps> MTP would to some extent solve this 08:59:26 <Sage_> MTP? 08:59:43 <Sage_> Media Transfer Protocol? 08:59:45 <Stskeeps> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol 09:00:02 <Sage_> ok 09:00:13 <Sage_> well, we would need somekind of solution to this. 09:00:40 <Stskeeps> yes 09:00:45 <Stskeeps> low? 09:01:01 <Sage_> I would say so yes 09:01:39 <veskuh> Yes, even though this is important we have lot of issues to fix first 09:01:45 <Stskeeps> :nod: 09:01:53 <Stskeeps> #topic Wifi applet crases if there are special keys in network password - https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97 09:02:16 <Stskeeps> medium/high? 09:02:50 <veskuh> Well, that is invalid. connman had crashed for some reason and that is why wifi applet kept crashing 09:02:57 <Stskeeps> ah 09:02:58 <veskuh> So my testing was wrong 09:03:12 <Stskeeps> i really wonder if we can take tripzero's qml control panel from tablet ux 09:03:30 <veskuh> So either change that to wifiapplet crashes if connman is down or invalid and a new bug 09:03:33 <Sage_> Stskeeps: well that deps heavyly in meego qt compoents? 09:03:47 <Stskeeps> Sage_: well, not sure 09:03:54 <Stskeeps> Sage_: w00t did some ports originally of apps from there 09:04:19 <Sage_> oh, well sounds good. if it is doable. 09:04:44 <veskuh> I don't think it will work out. It is all or nothing for the control panels 09:05:00 <Stskeeps> ok 09:05:08 <veskuh> And it would pull in a lot of the meego-ux 09:05:09 <Stskeeps> probably a total rewrite needed? 09:05:22 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98 - Portrait support in TwimGo is not working 09:05:24 <veskuh> At some point we need total rewrite of control panel, yes. 09:05:38 <Stskeeps> twimgo author was who again? 09:05:52 <Sage_> should be easyfix IIRC (oneliner or something) 09:06:01 <Sage_> I think someone already mentioned a fix for this 09:06:14 <veskuh> Sage_: yes, xruxa did same fix for kasvopus 09:06:16 <Stskeeps> ok 09:06:18 <Sage_> something about removign hardcoded values. 09:06:27 <Sage_> veskuh: yes 09:06:32 <Stskeeps> ok 09:06:34 <veskuh> Sage_: exactly, there was fixed size I think 09:07:50 <Sage_> I can try to hunt that down. 09:08:07 <veskuh> prio? 09:08:38 <Stskeeps> low, cosmetic? 09:08:43 <Stskeeps> annoying, but cosmetic 09:08:44 <Sage_> medium as exopc? 09:09:18 <Stskeeps> mm 09:09:23 <veskuh> exopc? 09:09:47 <Sage_> on exopc it doesn't scale if it is hardocded? 09:09:56 <Stskeeps> ah 09:10:08 <Sage_> haven't tried but just an assumption 09:10:27 <veskuh> I think it scales but does not rotate, but I'm not sure. 09:11:00 <veskuh> Let's put medium to be sure? 09:11:01 <Sage_> ok could be that as well 09:11:51 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100 - Theme-layout is broken under USB-settings 09:13:04 <veskuh> low, cosmetic theme issue 09:13:07 <Sage_> this is caused by the fact that it is not desinged to be used in landscape 09:13:25 <Sage_> and yes low 09:13:33 <Stskeeps> ok 09:14:35 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101 - Unable to enable Caps Lock 09:14:41 <Stskeeps> Maliit issue? 09:15:10 <Sage_> I would say so. assign/cc to araujo 09:17:08 <Stskeeps> low, caps lock is for shouting 09:17:26 <veskuh> yep :) 09:18:00 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102 - Unable to enable Num Lock 09:18:03 <Stskeeps> same area? 09:18:13 <veskuh> yep 09:18:15 <Sage_> :nod: 09:18:40 <Stskeeps> low or medium? 09:18:43 <Stskeeps> num lock.. phonenumbers 09:18:51 <Sage_> ? 09:18:56 <Sage_> we have numpad right? 09:19:11 <Stskeeps> think contacts 09:19:29 <Sage_> umm... 09:19:40 <Stskeeps> typing in a phonenumber in that context 09:19:46 <Stskeeps> anyway, not sure 09:19:47 <Stskeeps> :P 09:19:49 <Sage_> ?123 button on VKB and you have numbers 09:19:52 <Stskeeps> ok 09:19:55 <Stskeeps> but this is hw keyboard 09:20:00 <Sage_> aah. 09:20:10 <Stskeeps> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103 - Cannot use Video recording 09:20:11 <Sage_> ok well another story :) 09:20:21 <Stskeeps> we can't provide gst-dsp and codecs out of the box, low/medium? 09:21:11 <Sage_> we could provice gst-dsp probably but not codecs 09:21:14 <Sage_> provide* 09:21:14 <Stskeeps> :nod: 09:21:41 <Stskeeps> ok, that was last bug 09:23:50 <Stskeeps> thank you all for coming 09:23:52 <Stskeeps> #endmeeting