12:00:34 #startmeeting Release management sync 13/3/2012 12:00:34 Meeting started Tue Mar 13 12:00:34 2012 UTC. The chair is Stskeeps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. 12:00:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 12:01:11 afternoon all 12:01:26 afternoon 12:02:07 so we have a prerelease out, http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00365.html 12:02:38 release of this will be thursday 12:04:59 so, content for the next release discussion? 12:05:21 you mean in +2w ? 12:05:43 yeah, 0.20120329.1 12:05:50 http://mer.bfst.de/meetings/mer-meeting/2012/mer-meeting.2012-02-28-12.00.html said Qt5 and python2.7 12:05:54 :nod: 12:06:04 and eglibc 2.15 i'd like to add on top 12:06:16 as well as a focus on testability 12:06:28 ie, decide where we put mer core tests, test tools, etc 12:06:43 OK - but not included in the release? 12:07:12 we have some outstanding threads of work 12:07:16 sb2 rebase 12:07:19 :nod: 12:07:27 which needs another OBS release/deploy iirc 12:07:38 i think we need to provide proof of concept testing at least 12:08:01 maybe not part of release, but at least showing end-to-end testing of a release possible 12:08:18 makes for a good argument for utilizing mer, see our passed test cases 12:08:25 we said in Mer:Tools too I think 12:08:52 :nod: 12:09:06 just thinking of proj organisation 12:09:32 in +2 i'd like to be able to add mer tools to a device and install test cases, and run testrunner from sdk 12:09:57 makes sense? 12:10:09 yes, just thinking what's involved 12:10:10 and then in +4 we can integrate with BOSS process 12:10:22 test cases mainly 12:11:13 :nod: 12:11:56 for +2w i'd also like to make a push for removing meego mentions from mer core 12:12:01 think meego-rpm-config, %vendor mer, etc 12:12:09 We should seriously think about taking a "new things" pause after that. I want to see how many of these things work out from the vendor side 12:12:13 :nod: 12:12:30 Nemo is too complex and too important to hack on 12:12:47 we need a minimal setup of some sort 12:12:53 vendor template 12:13:26 Maybe the RasPi or VM 12:13:55 eg test cases need to blend core and vendor test cases 12:14:09 in most cases, you can do well enough with core + hw adaptation 12:14:13 IMG needs to use core kickstarter and add vendor bits 12:14:25 that doesn't work well for sdk 12:15:02 :nod: 12:15:04 so I'd like to discover those areas where it works for Mer but is harder than we thought to overlay on it 12:15:43 core content wise i think we're quite close to what i'd like to see for a '1.0' 12:15:49 tools wise.. we need a little more 12:15:54 yep 12:16:07 any problem areas in core? 12:16:14 I'm thinking pulseaudio 12:17:00 #action identify packages in Mer with high patch weight 12:17:09 urgh 12:17:13 yeah, PA we need to upgrade.. 12:18:19 phaeron finally has a obs testbed up 12:18:41 yes, that's looking good 12:18:43 so we can start with proper boss setup and copy-on-release 12:19:16 That has been on my todo list for a while 12:19:35 MeeGo c.obs has needed attention this week (and workers are *still* dying) 12:19:39 :nod: 12:19:49 but we have LDAP on IMG 12:19:56 the release process is written up 12:20:06 we have /cross sorted properly 12:20:07 so i can get run over by a bus yet? 12:20:08 :P 12:20:24 yeah, feel free to take up rock climbing :) 12:20:39 and the SDK has now got basic SB2 capability 12:23:38 just thinking of priorities on the tools side 12:23:47 SB2 in SDK seems top 12:23:53 :nod: 12:24:28 my git packaging looks really sane to me so I'll spend time getting that ready for a review 12:25:03 phaeron is hacking away at OBS and that's also high prio 12:25:29 IMG is production ready and needs some medium prio (but fun to do) tweaks 12:25:38 so they're on his list too 12:25:53 swerden's box is IMG right? 12:25:56 yes 12:25:58 ok 12:26:03 and mer c.obs 12:28:51 we should also plan systematic test cases for sdk and such 12:29:21 hi, sry I'm late 12:29:24 agree 12:29:25 http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/QA-tools/Testplanner 12:30:10 hmm .... use that on SDK releases 12:30:34 :nod: 12:30:43 kinda scary 12:31:41 Sage_: any comments to the above planning? 12:33:13 lbt: test cases can be stuff like kickstarter testing, do builds of reference images, etc.. 12:34:28 yeah - I'm not sure how to do a deployment wrapper and things 12:36:18 at the moment what I do is run through the Platform SDK documentation and try all the examples there 12:36:43 :nod: 12:37:03 the problems arise when I have a non-standard environment - eg I share mic cache with my host - that hides the bindmount problem 12:37:33 OTOH w/o it my ADSL takes 40m to download all the packages :) 12:37:36 sounds like a good motivation for vm tests 12:38:09 yep - and I have a niggle that 2.6.32 != 3.2 for bind mounts 12:38:35 but I'll take a look 12:42:26 * lbt notes the TLA dictionary action from 2 weeks ago .... Sage_ Stskeeps ? 12:42:47 postponed 12:42:53 higher priority actions to be done 12:42:53 :) 12:42:53 :P 12:45:37 right, i have nothing else 12:45:49 nothing else here 12:46:03 Sage_: anything? 12:50:34 guess not 12:51:33 thanks all for coming 12:51:36 #endmeeting