11:07:30 <Stskeeps> #startmeeting Mer release management meeting 10/4/2012 11:07:30 <MerBot> Meeting started Tue Apr 10 11:07:30 2012 UTC. The chair is Stskeeps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. 11:07:30 <MerBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 11:07:37 <Sage> o/ 11:08:06 <lbt> hi 11:09:07 <Stskeeps> so where are we at with next release: number of CVE fixes merged 11:09:13 <Stskeeps> nspr/nss upgrade 11:09:13 <Stskeeps> d 11:09:37 <Stskeeps> i'd like to ditch nss from glibc, like ubuntu and tizen does 11:09:56 <Stskeeps> libsolv has been merged, zypper upgrade around the corner 11:10:04 <Stskeeps> i'm testing sb2 2.3.48 in a seperate OBS project 11:10:20 <lbt> I should be able to test OBS with sb2 too 11:10:22 <lbt> Qt5 ? 11:10:26 <Sage> python 2.7 11:10:29 <Sage> ? 11:11:19 <Stskeeps> lbt: qt5 has gotten an update and i need to push an update from bostik's stuff 11:11:37 <Stskeeps> python 2.7 will go in after 2.3.48 as i need to be sure it's not caused by python 11:12:18 <lbt> so the sb2 change - does that cause SDK issues? 11:12:21 <Stskeeps> just been away from the computer this week 11:12:27 <Stskeeps> sb2 .. no, it should on the contrary improve 11:12:50 <lbt> OK - I need to look at improving the mapping flexibility there too 11:13:12 <lbt> it's a high-ish hurdle to getting started 11:14:34 <lbt> on my side I've been following-on the OBS packaging work from Islam with our OBS version 11:14:49 <lbt> Setup a virtualised network with distributed systems; documentation of setup and config so it's easy to do regression tests. 11:15:04 <lbt> Fixed some small bugs in api/webui too 11:15:33 <Stskeeps> :nod: 11:15:36 <lbt> the idea is to be able to do automated deploy of OBS and then build against MDS 11:15:43 <Stskeeps> as a test case? 11:15:50 <lbt> yes 11:15:52 <lbt> side effect is that it's also easier to deploy 11:16:09 <lbt> ie so when we use sb2 we can do test builds 11:16:25 <lbt> the tricky bit will be getting coverage 11:16:38 <Stskeeps> do a mer no-use-for-build test? 11:17:00 <lbt> I was thinking "build acl once" :) 11:17:07 <Stskeeps> you're not thinking big enough! 11:17:15 <lbt> hehe 11:17:26 <lbt> well, it'd be a useful thing to do on more HW 11:17:39 <Stskeeps> acl once, but for multiple architectures 11:17:43 <lbt> yes 11:18:27 <lbt> the objective is only obs install/regression initially 11:18:30 <Stskeeps> yep 11:18:43 <lbt> the problem is I can't do things like Xen workers 11:18:51 <lbt> or at least not easily 11:19:12 <lbt> and I can't do soak tests like the ones which kill cobs workers 11:19:34 <lbt> speaking of which https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor 11:19:45 <lbt> no dead workers - I may have fixed it :) 11:19:59 <Sage> \o/ 11:20:22 <lbt> anyhow - that's been taking time just messing about setting up the infra for the virtualisation 11:20:41 <lbt> but it's looking good now and I've been making commits 11:21:24 <lbt> https://github.com/lbt/open-build-service/tree/lbt_master 11:22:40 <lbt> speaking of OBS/projects - should we be providing named versions of Mer core in the cobs? 11:22:49 <Stskeeps> named? 11:22:52 <Stskeeps> tagged, you mean 11:22:56 <lbt> yes 11:23:08 <Stskeeps> we (may) with mds2 11:23:17 <Stskeeps> depending on needs 11:23:24 <lbt> I'm kinda uncertain 11:23:44 <lbt> I would almost like to do it on request 11:23:44 <Stskeeps> source is easy 11:23:49 <Stskeeps> binary downloads, a little harder 11:24:07 <lbt> yes - but 'supporting' building against january releases? 11:24:54 <Stskeeps> i think it'd be up to policy 11:25:00 <lbt> or, come july ... supporting the march release :) 11:25:03 <Stskeeps> on a sidenote, we should consider to add Tizen targets to COBS 11:25:26 <lbt> yes, I saw that ... would be a good task 11:25:27 <Stskeeps> ie, a binary import 11:27:44 * lbt adds to his TODO 11:28:22 <Stskeeps> a prjconf is in the 'gbs' tools package 11:29:15 <lbt> I've also updated our release instructions over the past couple of weeks (including bz + ks now) so that should be useful. There's probably more to do on SDK, images and the like 11:29:32 <lbt> yes, I'll make that visible w/o a tunnel sometime 11:31:10 <lbt> so things for the next week(s) ? 11:31:39 <lbt> I'm hoping to get IMG to do builds as part of CI/DBC 11:31:48 <Stskeeps> :nod: 11:32:09 <lbt> we had a nasty problem with BOSS (ruote) on c.obs last week too 11:32:12 <lbt> FYI 11:32:24 <lbt> ran out of disk and corrupted the DB 11:32:27 <Stskeeps> eep 11:32:33 <Stskeeps> [ ] backup for BOSS? 11:32:34 <Stskeeps> :P 11:32:38 <lbt> indeed 11:32:47 <lbt> [ ] all backups... 11:32:56 <lbt> head -> sand 11:33:05 <lbt> managed to do some recovery but it was a bit scary 11:33:05 <Stskeeps> have you found phaeron's copy-project stuff yet? 11:33:22 <lbt> not looked - I saw him pop up last week and expected him to be about 11:33:28 <Stskeeps> ok 11:33:46 <Stskeeps> btw, what was the ultra-show-webui problem we had? 11:34:00 <lbt> on the mer-cobs? 11:34:02 <Stskeeps> yes 11:34:10 <lbt> not resolved 11:34:18 <Stskeeps> ok 11:34:23 <lbt> to do with internal name != external name 11:34:31 <lbt> and reverse proxies and ssl 11:34:56 <lbt> I was planning to erase the setup and redo it using the new packages 11:35:15 <lbt> which would also clean the setup (which is now a hacky mess) 11:35:16 <Stskeeps> makes sense 11:35:40 <lbt> we did find many undocumented things to tweak 11:37:13 <Stskeeps> there's another COBS meeting this afternoon/evening if you remember 11:37:30 <lbt> I forgot but saw a mention earlier 11:37:32 <lbt> when? 11:37:37 <Stskeeps> 16 utc i think 11:38:09 <lbt> ok 11:40:07 <lbt> so: OBS, then IMG/DBC as my main focus. I'll try and continue the git/obs work too. 11:40:15 <Stskeeps> ok 11:40:51 <lbt> let me know if you need to try anything on OBS with sb2 11:40:56 <Sage> is there any high priority package updates btw that should be handled? 11:41:03 <Sage> for next release 11:41:12 <lbt> I'd like to have a way to test experimental OBS branches 11:41:17 <Sage> that are not in review that is 11:42:39 <lbt> libxcb ? 11:42:49 <lbt> https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226 11:43:22 <lbt> udev? #230 11:43:24 <Sage> I though someone was already doing that thus didn't touch 11:44:02 <lbt> *nod* ... just browsing high prio bugs :) 11:44:04 <Sage> I'm a bit confused with udev thingy probably should update the x86 adaptation and recheck after that. 11:44:23 <lbt> seen the udev/systemd news? 11:44:41 <Sage> I noted that udev is in systemd git now but didn't note any news 11:44:44 <lbt> https://lwn.net/Articles/490413 11:44:59 <Stskeeps> oh yeah 11:45:01 <Stskeeps> i forgot to mention that 11:45:26 * lbt waits for dbus to go in there too 11:46:08 <Sage> One can read along the lines that "systemd is the one and only sysinit for the future ;)" 11:46:34 <Stskeeps> one thing for discussion: SMACK support has begun to be entered into meego 1.2 11:46:41 <lbt> I wonder when systemd will incorporate lua 11:46:50 <Stskeeps> and it looks to be of a kind that we might be able to utilize in Mer too 11:49:57 <lbt> I'm not aware of the implications for this kind of decision 11:50:13 <lbt> eg the degree to which this limits vendor choice 11:50:22 <Stskeeps> :nod: 11:50:40 <lbt> vs the degree to which we say "Mer uses SMACK, deal with it" :) 11:50:54 <lbt> (cf systemd) 12:00:11 <lbt> Stskeeps: did I mention an issue on the DBC process to you last week ? 12:00:14 <Stskeeps> hmm? 12:00:20 <Stskeeps> if you did, i forgot 12:03:19 <lbt> the DBC is run in submit order which != accept order and doesn't account for A being submitted, checked w/o B and then B being accepted before A is accepted 12:03:40 <Stskeeps> DBC is being run against "what's merged right now" 12:03:44 <lbt> yes 12:03:55 <Stskeeps> that's the thing about topic branches 12:04:00 <Stskeeps> and yes, it's a risk point 12:04:17 <lbt> yep - that's all ... FYI 12:05:24 <lbt> OK, are we done? 12:05:37 <Stskeeps> think so 12:05:39 <Stskeeps> thank you for coming 12:05:41 <Stskeeps> #endmeeting